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	<title>Comments on: Speculative fiction and the nature of the current crisis</title>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/03/speculative-fiction-and-the-nature-of-the-current-crisis/#comment-184227</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrien @30, The Trump should never keep his wig. He and it should be sacrificed to the sun god on the roof of whichever Trump Tower is still above water. Or alternatively to the shark god if they&#039;re all under water.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrien @30, The Trump should never keep his wig. He and it should be sacrificed to the sun god on the roof of whichever Trump Tower is still above water. Or alternatively to the shark god if they&#8217;re all under water.</p>
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		<title>By: zorronsky</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/03/speculative-fiction-and-the-nature-of-the-current-crisis/#comment-184226</link>
		<dc:creator>zorronsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 09:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wot&#039;s needed are Sweeny Todds y&#039;Know too many people!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wot&#8217;s needed are Sweeny Todds y&#8217;Know too many people!!</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/03/speculative-fiction-and-the-nature-of-the-current-crisis/#comment-184225</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Um PC, in the dystopian globally warmed future I can assure you that Adelaide residents will not be burning anything for heat. &lt;/i&gt;
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Yeah. There won&#039;t be any. There will be the movie: &lt;i&gt;Ghost City&lt;/i&gt; about mutant zombies with fluro green skin and eyes that glow red in the night. They crawl over the rubble in search of Anglican churches, arts festivals and flesh. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Um PC, in the dystopian globally warmed future I can assure you that Adelaide residents will not be burning anything for heat. </i><br />
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Yeah. There won&#8217;t be any. There will be the movie: <i>Ghost City</i> about mutant zombies with fluro green skin and eyes that glow red in the night. They crawl over the rubble in search of Anglican churches, arts festivals and flesh. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe we could genetically engineer our pollies to make chook poo?  You still have to burn something to get the refrigeration going though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe we could genetically engineer our pollies to make chook poo?  You still have to burn something to get the refrigeration going though.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, why not? I mean, we already have bull-shit powered Govenments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, why not? I mean, we already have bull-shit powered Govenments.</p>
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		<title>By: David Irving (no relation)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/03/speculative-fiction-and-the-nature-of-the-current-crisis/#comment-184222</link>
		<dc:creator>David Irving (no relation)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr Cat, seeing as Goyder&#039;s Line is rapidly moving south to its final position along the cenreline of Melbourne St, I don&#039;t think we&#039;re going to be &lt;em&gt;cold&lt;/em&gt; in Adelaide.

Mr Rubie, there&#039;s plenty of ammonia in animal manure, I believe, so we could have bullshit-powered air conditioners ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr Cat, seeing as Goyder&#8217;s Line is rapidly moving south to its final position along the cenreline of Melbourne St, I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re going to be <em>cold</em> in Adelaide.</p>
<p>Mr Rubie, there&#8217;s plenty of ammonia in animal manure, I believe, so we could have bullshit-powered air conditioners &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/03/speculative-fiction-and-the-nature-of-the-current-crisis/#comment-184221</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steam age refrigeration required?  It&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.michaelorgan.org.au/nicol1.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;already been done&lt;/a&gt;.  Now, you just have to source the ammonia...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steam age refrigeration required?  It&#8217;s <a href="http://www.michaelorgan.org.au/nicol1.htm" rel="nofollow">already been done</a>.  Now, you just have to source the ammonia&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Um PC, in the dystopian globally warmed future I can assure you that Adelaide residents will not be burning anything for heat. Now if you know how to rig up a solid fueled airconditioning system…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh -- I thought it was &#039;extreme weather events&#039; we were looking forward to, rather than simply things getting uniformly hotter. My understanding was that that means extreme in more than one direction. And it does get bloody cold here in the winter sometimes.

&lt;blockquote&gt;What an odd sentence that is about ‘decaying Dickensian cities’. Presumably Dickens wrote about a decaying Dickensian cities (London) because he lived in it. And he wasn’t really noted for indulging in speculative fiction.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I automatically read that sentence as referring to the futuristic dystopias of people like Angela Carter, TimT -- surely &#039;Dickensian&#039; in this context is just a descriptive adjective?

&lt;blockquote&gt;I don’t buy all this stuff about economic or environmental collapse.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Come over to my place for afternoon tea, and I shall show you what&#039;s happened to my garden and my superannuation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Um PC, in the dystopian globally warmed future I can assure you that Adelaide residents will not be burning anything for heat. Now if you know how to rig up a solid fueled airconditioning system…</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh &#8212; I thought it was &#8216;extreme weather events&#8217; we were looking forward to, rather than simply things getting uniformly hotter. My understanding was that that means extreme in more than one direction. And it does get bloody cold here in the winter sometimes.</p>
<blockquote><p>What an odd sentence that is about ‘decaying Dickensian cities’. Presumably Dickens wrote about a decaying Dickensian cities (London) because he lived in it. And he wasn’t really noted for indulging in speculative fiction.</p></blockquote>
<p>I automatically read that sentence as referring to the futuristic dystopias of people like Angela Carter, TimT &#8212; surely &#8216;Dickensian&#8217; in this context is just a descriptive adjective?</p>
<blockquote><p>I don’t buy all this stuff about economic or environmental collapse.</p></blockquote>
<p>Come over to my place for afternoon tea, and I shall show you what&#8217;s happened to my garden and my superannuation.</p>
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		<title>By: feral sparrowhawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>feral sparrowhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Well, I shall be burning mine for heat, and no you may not sit near the fire. It’s mine, I tell you, mine.&quot;

Um PC, in the dystopian globally warmed future I can assure you that Adelaide residents will not be burning anything for heat. Now if you know how to rig up a solid fueled airconditioning system...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Well, I shall be burning mine for heat, and no you may not sit near the fire. It’s mine, I tell you, mine.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um PC, in the dystopian globally warmed future I can assure you that Adelaide residents will not be burning anything for heat. Now if you know how to rig up a solid fueled airconditioning system&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/03/speculative-fiction-and-the-nature-of-the-current-crisis/#comment-184218</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno Tim - without a proper literature survey I think it&#039;d be hard to class the 17th and 18th century birth of science fiction writing as being biased towards utopian ideals (and our current time to be biased towards dystopias).  After all, we&#039;re in the age of Star Trek (ostensibly a utopia) and other space operas.  I&#039;d be surprised if it wasn&#039;t evenly balanced once you remove all the satire and irony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno Tim &#8211; without a proper literature survey I think it&#8217;d be hard to class the 17th and 18th century birth of science fiction writing as being biased towards utopian ideals (and our current time to be biased towards dystopias).  After all, we&#8217;re in the age of Star Trek (ostensibly a utopia) and other space operas.  I&#8217;d be surprised if it wasn&#8217;t evenly balanced once you remove all the satire and irony.</p>
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