Comments on: The Government blogs! http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 02:00:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Sally Rose http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185231 Sally Rose Mon, 25 May 2009 06:45:01 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185231 Hi Robert Having remmbered this blog yopu wrote about the digital economy blog I wanted to contact you to let you know about the third installment in the AGIMO eGovernment consultation trial whcih has just launched with much less publicity. It's an online discussion forum for the National Human Rights Consultation Committee. This time the department involved is the Federal Attorney General's Department and they have chosen to outsource the hosting to Open Forum, you can take a look at www.openforum.com.au/NHROC All comments are published in real time without being filtered through the public service so it's more of "real" forum. Point is not so much 2 way dialogue but to make it easier for more Australians to participate in this government consultation on human rights legislation than would through traditional channels. I'd be happy to discuss. Looking for publicity to spread the word. Best, Sally Rose srose@openforum.com.au Hi Robert
Having remmbered this blog yopu wrote about the digital economy blog I wanted to contact you to let you know about the third installment in the AGIMO eGovernment consultation trial whcih has just launched with much less publicity. It’s an online discussion forum for the National Human Rights Consultation Committee. This time the department involved is the Federal Attorney General’s Department and they have chosen to outsource the hosting to Open Forum, you can take a look at http://www.openforum.com.au/NHROC All comments are published in real time without being filtered through the public service so it’s more of “real” forum. Point is not so much 2 way dialogue but to make it easier for more Australians to participate in this government consultation on human rights legislation than would through traditional channels. I’d be happy to discuss. Looking for publicity to spread the word. Best, Sally Rose srose@openforum.com.au

]]> By: Shaun http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185230 Shaun Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:01:05 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185230 I'm sure one of the so called prominent bloggers mentioned simply runs websites that aggregate content from other blogs. I’m sure one of the so called prominent bloggers mentioned simply runs websites that aggregate content from other blogs.

]]> By: Tyro Rex http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185229 Tyro Rex Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:11:43 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185229 Well, the SMH doesn't like it. http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/bloggers-pan-governments-edemocracy-bid/2008/12/11/1228585002401.html But the comments from the Microsoft guy at the end are particularly precious, seeing as the whole world of blogging (and related) escaped Microsoft's attention for many years. And one of the other guys, Darren Rowse, never heard of him before. Well, the SMH doesn’t like it.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/home/technology/bloggers-pan-governments-edemocracy-bid/2008/12/11/1228585002401.html

But the comments from the Microsoft guy at the end are particularly precious, seeing as the whole world of blogging (and related) escaped Microsoft’s attention for many years. And one of the other guys, Darren Rowse, never heard of him before.

]]> By: Jacques de Molay http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185228 Jacques de Molay Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:45:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185228 I'm not sure if it's been mentioned by anyone on here but Foxtel are bringing in an Australian version of C-SPAN (called A-SPAN) next month for all the political junkies (that have Foxtel of course). I’m not sure if it’s been mentioned by anyone on here but Foxtel are bringing in an Australian version of C-SPAN (called A-SPAN) next month for all the political junkies (that have Foxtel of course).

]]> By: Shaun http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185227 Shaun Wed, 10 Dec 2008 05:40:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185227 Apparently <a href="http://www.news.com.au/technology/story/0,28348,24779707-5014239,00.html" rel="nofollow">many of the comments</a> refer to the proposed internet filter. I shocked, shocked I tell you that the discussion had already gone off topic. Never happens on real blogs. Apparently many of the comments refer to the proposed internet filter.

I shocked, shocked I tell you that the discussion had already gone off topic. Never happens on real blogs.

]]> By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185226 Down and Out of Sài Gòn Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:58:39 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185226 Thanks, Tyro, but I think Polyquats is referring to the link at the top of the page. The corrected link can be found <a href="http://balneus.wordpress.com/2008/12/09/conroy-and-tanner-want-your-advice-seriously/" rel="nofollow">here</a>. As for Minsiter's Tanner's welcome - 358 posts and counting, and mostly unrelated to the opening statement. High signal to noise, as can be expected. Thanks, Tyro, but I think Polyquats is referring to the link at the top of the page. The corrected link can be found here.

As for Minsiter’s Tanner’s welcome – 358 posts and counting, and mostly unrelated to the opening statement. High signal to noise, as can be expected.

]]> By: professor rat http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185225 professor rat Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:48:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185225 To actually ' be-the-change-you-wish-to-see ' a conversation board needs an open-source moderation policy and practice that is self-managed in a completely transparent manner and always includes suspension and expulsion policies that have well established natural-justice built-in. The right of presumed innocence, representation, trial by peers, appeal rights and so-on. You know - like absolutely no website I've seen yet! Of course if no such site is forthcoming then neither is more direct and accountable democracy. Not from below anyway. Maybe some very powerful anarchist aliens are reading this and thinking about a humanitarian intervention. To actually ‘ be-the-change-you-wish-to-see ‘ a conversation board needs an open-source moderation policy and practice that is self-managed in a completely transparent manner and always includes suspension and expulsion policies that have well established natural-justice built-in. The right of presumed innocence, representation, trial by peers, appeal rights and so-on. You know – like absolutely no website I’ve seen yet!
Of course if no such site is forthcoming then neither is more direct and accountable democracy. Not from below anyway. Maybe some very powerful anarchist aliens are reading this and thinking about a humanitarian intervention.

]]> By: Tyro Rex http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185224 Tyro Rex Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:55:05 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185224 try here - http://www.dbcde.gov.au/communications_for_business/industry_development/digital_economy/future_directions_blog and here - http://www.dbcde.gov.au/communications_for_business/industry_development/digital_economy/future_directions_blog/topics/digital_economy_benefit try here – http://www.dbcde.gov.au/communications_for_business/industry_development/digital_economy/future_directions_blog

and here – http://www.dbcde.gov.au/communications_for_business/industry_development/digital_economy/future_directions_blog/topics/digital_economy_benefit

]]> By: Polyquats http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185223 Polyquats Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:48:38 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185223 Link isn't working. <em>Fixed - dk.au</em> Link isn’t working.

Fixed – dk.au

]]> By: Tyro Rex http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185222 Tyro Rex Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:18:32 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/10/the-government-blogs/#comment-185222 I think another problem with the government-blogs concept is that "hot button" issues will swamp any dialogue possible in other areas. As I said to Mark, after the first post about the "digital economy" by Tanner and Conroy: <blockquote> The large volume of comments so far are mostly opposing the net filter to various degrees of articulation, but as you'd expect. However it's possibly getting in the way of all other policy (my interests are mostly in government IT policy, as that's my profession). I think that Conroy would do well to drop the bloody net filter idea just so it doesn't become the defining (only) issue of govt. IT&C policy. Also a lot of "netizens" might not appreciate just how boring a lot of it really is (contracts, sourcing policies, budgetary oversight committees ... ). </blockquote> I think another problem with the government-blogs concept is that “hot button” issues will swamp any dialogue possible in other areas. As I said to Mark, after the first post about the “digital economy” by Tanner and Conroy:

The large volume of comments so far are mostly opposing the net filter to various degrees of articulation, but as you’d expect. However it’s possibly getting in the way of all other policy (my interests are mostly in government IT policy, as that’s my profession). I think that Conroy would do well to drop the bloody net filter idea just so it doesn’t become the defining (only) issue of govt. IT&C policy. Also a lot of “netizens” might not appreciate just how boring a lot of it really is (contracts, sourcing policies, budgetary oversight committees … ).

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