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		<title>By: Peter Wood</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/12/redundant-ridout/#comment-185670</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 06:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks JulieG, the cartoon is very useful -- I have made use of it on my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks JulieG, the cartoon is very useful &#8212; I have made use of it on my blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jovial Monk</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/12/redundant-ridout/#comment-185669</link>
		<dc:creator>Jovial Monk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sequestering carbon: lots of fruit trees, fertilise with manure, mulching with peastraw etc.

Not waiting for anyone else.

Or should I wait for the guvment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sequestering carbon: lots of fruit trees, fertilise with manure, mulching with peastraw etc.</p>
<p>Not waiting for anyone else.</p>
<p>Or should I wait for the guvment?</p>
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		<title>By: dk.au</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/12/redundant-ridout/#comment-185668</link>
		<dc:creator>dk.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 01:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nothing redundant about Mrs Ridout.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Maybe, but her commentary on emissions trading is.  The whole point of that post was that he intervention was a complete non-sequitur.  We&#039;re already in the dry run she&#039;s proposing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nothing redundant about Mrs Ridout.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe, but her commentary on emissions trading is.  The whole point of that post was that he intervention was a complete non-sequitur.  We&#8217;re already in the dry run she&#8217;s proposing.</p>
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		<title>By: billie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/12/redundant-ridout/#comment-185667</link>
		<dc:creator>billie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2008 00:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing redundant about Mrs Ridout.  12 months ago at the Bali Climate Change Conference the newly elected Rudd was promising urgent cuts to carbon emissions.  I got a hernia waiting for these targets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing redundant about Mrs Ridout.  12 months ago at the Bali Climate Change Conference the newly elected Rudd was promising urgent cuts to carbon emissions.  I got a hernia waiting for these targets.</p>
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		<title>By: JulieG</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/12/redundant-ridout/#comment-185666</link>
		<dc:creator>JulieG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pablo, I think Rudd reckons he&#039;s a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=389x1601365&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sensible Centrist&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pablo, I think Rudd reckons he&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;address=389x1601365" rel="nofollow">Sensible Centrist</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: pablo</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/12/redundant-ridout/#comment-185665</link>
		<dc:creator>pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 01:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One effect of Ridout - lets call it the Ridout factor - is evidenced in what you hear of Rudd constantly talking about &quot;getting the balance right.&quot; Leaving aside the &#039;extremists&#039; at either end of the GW spectrum which is a respectable statistical move, getting the balance right is probably equivalant to &#039;steering a middle course&#039; between Ridout and Garnaut&#039;s 5 - 10% or 550ppm option. It might be good politics but it is lousy science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One effect of Ridout &#8211; lets call it the Ridout factor &#8211; is evidenced in what you hear of Rudd constantly talking about &#8220;getting the balance right.&#8221; Leaving aside the &#8216;extremists&#8217; at either end of the GW spectrum which is a respectable statistical move, getting the balance right is probably equivalant to &#8216;steering a middle course&#8217; between Ridout and Garnaut&#8217;s 5 &#8211; 10% or 550ppm option. It might be good politics but it is lousy science.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/12/redundant-ridout/#comment-185664</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say we give governments 12 months, and then start setting citizen targets without reference to our states, in direct citizen-citizen cosmopolitan action.

i.e. Declare state failure on the issue and reach people-people accords on goals. Embarrass them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say we give governments 12 months, and then start setting citizen targets without reference to our states, in direct citizen-citizen cosmopolitan action.</p>
<p>i.e. Declare state failure on the issue and reach people-people accords on goals. Embarrass them.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/12/redundant-ridout/#comment-185663</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 14:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caroline,
And all we can say after 1 year of this government is that there is more coal being dug up and shipped, oil is much, much cheaper to burn, CO2 targets are still as wobbly and just as likely to be met and more paper being used to make and unmake promises. Still, if the papers end up on shelves somewhere it is a form of sequestration...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caroline,<br />
And all we can say after 1 year of this government is that there is more coal being dug up and shipped, oil is much, much cheaper to burn, CO2 targets are still as wobbly and just as likely to be met and more paper being used to make and unmake promises. Still, if the papers end up on shelves somewhere it is a form of sequestration&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 09:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The struggle to get any sensible action on &#039;tackling&#039; climate change will have to begin with a wholesale, across the board (room), ideological shift.  While getting filthy rich flogging clean coal continues to seam a much more glamorous option, I can&#039;t see that happening any time soon.

All we can honestly say we have achieved after many, many months of debate, are a lot of key people baulking at committing to the abstract notion of &#039;setting targets&#039; and spending more energy on finding ways to make what is a pretty straightforward need into a complicated, drawn out bun fight where shareholder interests and the health of the economy remain the paramount concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The struggle to get any sensible action on &#8216;tackling&#8217; climate change will have to begin with a wholesale, across the board (room), ideological shift.  While getting filthy rich flogging clean coal continues to seam a much more glamorous option, I can&#8217;t see that happening any time soon.</p>
<p>All we can honestly say we have achieved after many, many months of debate, are a lot of key people baulking at committing to the abstract notion of &#8216;setting targets&#8217; and spending more energy on finding ways to make what is a pretty straightforward need into a complicated, drawn out bun fight where shareholder interests and the health of the economy remain the paramount concerns.</p>
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		<title>By: Andyc</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/12/redundant-ridout/#comment-185661</link>
		<dc:creator>Andyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 08:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Ben Eltham&lt;/b&gt; @ 2: &lt;i&gt;&quot;I’m sick of the free reign she gets in the media as the go-to quoter...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Was that &quot;free rein&quot; as in, &quot;nobody stops the horse from going  in the wrong direction&quot;

or &quot;free reign&quot; as in, &quot;ruling as a monarch, without having to pay for the privilege&quot;.

Oh hang on...  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ben Eltham</b> @ 2: <i>&#8220;I’m sick of the free reign she gets in the media as the go-to quoter&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Was that &#8220;free rein&#8221; as in, &#8220;nobody stops the horse from going  in the wrong direction&#8221;</p>
<p>or &#8220;free reign&#8221; as in, &#8220;ruling as a monarch, without having to pay for the privilege&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh hang on&#8230;  <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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