Comments on: Deeply unserious targets

By: PeterTB

PeterTB — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:36:13 +0000

Im interested in the scientific consensus among people who know what they’re talking about.

There is absolute scientific consensus that replacing all of our coal fired power stations with nuclear ones will achieve a 40% reduction in CO2 emissions.

Heed the science people

By: Warwick

Warwick — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 03:45:50 +0000

Sudden changes to sea levels…hmmmmm, must have missed these.

Am I to assume they suddenly changed back?

By: wilful

wilful — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:41:12 +0000

But yes there is an answer for Warwick – it’s called the holocene. (Rather than the anthrocene that we’re busily constructing.)

It’s the climate that doesn’t create sudden changes to sea levels and the primary productivity of areas. It’s a bit older than the world currently is, a lot colder than it’s going to get soon.

By: Lefty E

Lefty E — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:36:58 +0000

Well speaking for myself, Im not too interested in “common sense” on this issue, as its pretty worthless. Im interested in the scientific consensus among people who know what they’re talking about.

By: Warwick

Warwick — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:08:40 +0000

Let’s not be so arrogant to think we can control the climate after wrecking everything else we have tried to control.

What is the perfect climate we are aiming for, who decides and who controls the thermostat?

This is a victory for common sense. From this we will grow.

By: Lefty E

Lefty E — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:46:13 +0000

Yep, if the ALP rates Tanner (and they should) they need to get him out of a marginal seat like Melbourne quick smart. It and seats like it will fall to the Greens in 2013, if not 2010.

By: wilful

wilful — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:41:11 +0000

Yeah that’s the one. Brilliant bloke, highly ethical, couldn’t imagine a Greens candidate with anything like his talent (suspect they don’t have any).

By: wizofaus

wizofaus — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:17:41 +0000

Look, if they’re worried about losing Tanner, I’m sure they’ll move him.
Further, that’s the same electorate (pretty much) that just voted in Mr let’s-get-cars-back-on-to-swanston-st Dolye.
I doubt the Greens will pick up any lower-house seats next election. But the ALP *do* need their preferences. Turnbull would have to be crazy not to work as hard as he can to get Greens voters to preference the Libs.

By: Peterc

Peterc — Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:11:50 +0000

Hmmn. Is that that same Lindsay Tanner who attacks the “radical Greens” and distributes propaganda to that effect in pathetic attempts to save his own bacon? He is part of the problem, not the solution. He has to go. After Kevin Howard’s shameful 5% copout, I think he is gone.

By: wilful

wilful — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:48:08 +0000

Alister, it’s a damn pity the Greens will target Melbourne next Federal election. That’s one of the best politicians we’ve got (Lindsay Tanner), so you certainly wont see my support for any campaign there.

Steve, they weren’t going to close Hazelwood any time soon, in fact the ETS may help it close down more quickly. Had the SEC still been in charge it reputedly would have closed down by now – except a Vic Labor Government in the 90s wouldn’t have had the money or foresight to have done that so it’s all moot.