Comments on: The National Broadband Network, Telstra and "market forces" http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:11:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: mcpherson robert http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186378 mcpherson robert Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:57:26 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186378 Market forces--under the guise of either ignorance or wishful thinking--have seen such elaborate corporate brilliances as the market of Iraq witnessing $79,000 of labour creating a $7.1 million bill. When we have a generation--who believe such outcomes are fair spoils to organisations that exist on the AGREED NO ACCOUNTABILITY--ie shareholders are the last paid in any default--then we have a population that is so deluded that perhaps invasion by another land is perhaps the reward they would be better supporting. FREE TRADE and FREE MARKETS is just mercantilism parading as "high tech'--and finacial wizardry is as complicated as the honesty behind it. Nothing more and nothing less. The FTTH network is as complicated as digging a hole. Market forces–under the guise of either ignorance or wishful thinking–have seen such elaborate corporate brilliances as the market of Iraq witnessing $79,000 of labour creating a $7.1 million bill.

When we have a generation–who believe such outcomes are fair spoils to organisations that exist on the AGREED NO ACCOUNTABILITY–ie shareholders are the last paid in any default–then we have a population that is so deluded that perhaps invasion by another land is perhaps the reward they would be better supporting.

FREE TRADE and FREE MARKETS is just mercantilism parading as “high tech’–and finacial wizardry is as complicated as the honesty behind it.

Nothing more and nothing less.

The FTTH network is as complicated as digging a hole.

]]> By: professor rat http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186377 professor rat Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:56:22 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186377 I think a Telstar sized Bell telephone company in the 1960's was why the US then invoked anti-trust to create the Baby-Bells. Now if they'd only kept on using anti-trust against these ' too-big-to-fail ' behemoths... The govt would be wise to hasten-slowly on this imo. Look how much cheaper tech-gear is today than it was a few years ago. One of the most ergonomic ideas I've seen was was for Global Hawk style unmanned planes to deliver wireless over cities. But finally for my 2c I do prefer market-solutions in general. Its just that when markets create monopolies - that's when you need anti-trust. I think a Telstar sized Bell telephone company in the 1960′s was why the US then invoked anti-trust to create the Baby-Bells. Now if they’d only kept on using anti-trust against these ‘ too-big-to-fail ‘ behemoths…

The govt would be wise to hasten-slowly on this imo. Look how much cheaper tech-gear is today than it was a few years ago. One of the most ergonomic ideas I’ve seen was was for Global Hawk style unmanned planes to deliver wireless over cities. But finally for my 2c I do prefer market-solutions in general. Its just that when markets create monopolies – that’s when you need anti-trust.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186376 Mark Tue, 16 Dec 2008 07:10:49 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186376 Incidentally, Stephen Conroy will be on the 7 30 Report tonight talking about the NBN tender. Incidentally, Stephen Conroy will be on the 7 30 Report tonight talking about the NBN tender.

]]> By: David Rubie http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186375 David Rubie Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:14:43 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186375 Sinclair Davidson wrote: <blockquote>You could ask her what phone company she uses</blockquote> Nah. Easier to ring up Sol Trujillo and ask him directly. While I'm on the phone, I'll ask him what his preferred telecoms policy looks like and cut out all the middle men :-) Sinclair Davidson wrote:

You could ask her what phone company she uses

Nah. Easier to ring up Sol Trujillo and ask him directly. While I’m on the phone, I’ll ask him what his preferred telecoms policy looks like and cut out all the middle men :-)

]]> By: Spiros http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186374 Spiros Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:41:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186374 The Australian Ballet, like Telstra, is a near monopolist in its market, so no wonder Telstra feels an attraction. The Australian Ballet, like Telstra, is a near monopolist in its market, so no wonder Telstra feels an attraction.

]]> By: Sinclair Davidson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186373 Sinclair Davidson Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:34:30 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186373 You could ask her what phone company she uses. You could ask her what phone company she uses.

]]> By: David Rubie http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186372 David Rubie Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:26:55 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186372 No doubt Chris Berg holds those opinions - also the reason why I never ask a ballet dancer which phone company I should be using. No doubt Chris Berg holds those opinions – also the reason why I never ask a ballet dancer which phone company I should be using.

]]> By: Sinclair Davidson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186371 Sinclair Davidson Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:12:03 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186371 <blockquote>Not to provide ‘independent’ opinions. Trust you can spot the difference.</blockquote> Independent of whom? I have no doubt that Chris holds the opinions he published under his own name.

Not to provide ‘independent’ opinions. Trust you can spot the difference.

Independent of whom? I have no doubt that Chris holds the opinions he published under his own name.

]]> By: Sinclair Davidson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186370 Sinclair Davidson Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:09:16 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186370 Telstra also gve money to the government who provide regulation. Telstra also gve money to the government who provide regulation.

]]> By: David Rubie http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186369 David Rubie Tue, 16 Dec 2008 05:03:00 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/16/the-national-broadband-network-telstra-and-market-forces/#comment-186369 Thanks for putting it in perspective Sinclair - it's advertising with a different gloss. The ballet players prance about on stage performing various fictions and Telstra hope the feel-goods will rub off on their brand. The IPA has now been properly categorised by the people who work there. Thanks for putting it in perspective Sinclair – it’s advertising with a different gloss. The ballet players prance about on stage performing various fictions and Telstra hope the feel-goods will rub off on their brand. The IPA has now been properly categorised by the people who work there.

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