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	<title>Comments on: Glogging</title>
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	<description>Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas</description>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/22/glogging/#comment-187221</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 01:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Snurb@3:

large communities managing themselves?  you can&#039;t have that! what would we need a gubbermint for? /sarcasm



This is probably the number one reason we have a censorship proposal at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Snurb@3:</p>
<p>large communities managing themselves?  you can&#8217;t have that! what would we need a gubbermint for? /sarcasm</p>
<p>This is probably the number one reason we have a censorship proposal at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Snurb</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/22/glogging/#comment-187220</link>
		<dc:creator>Snurb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 07:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, unfortunately we&#039;re having some technical difficulties at &lt;a href=&quot;http://gatewatching.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gatewatching&lt;/a&gt; at the moment. Sorry if anyone&#039;s trying to get to that post and is only getting a timeout error...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, unfortunately we&#8217;re having some technical difficulties at <a href="http://gatewatching.org" rel="nofollow">Gatewatching</a> at the moment. Sorry if anyone&#8217;s trying to get to that post and is only getting a timeout error&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Wood</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/22/glogging/#comment-187219</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 01:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does government blogging have something to do with drinking Swedish mulled wine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does government blogging have something to do with drinking Swedish mulled wine?</p>
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		<title>By: professor rat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/22/glogging/#comment-187218</link>
		<dc:creator>professor rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My priorities are two

1) Self-managed Blogs that strictly respect and observe natural-justice in all their day-to-day moderation proceedings.
Openness. transparency. Right of appeal, presumption of innocence, etc.

2) Net based prediction markets ( My 2c) that pay out on the nail to the nearest correct prediction of the the permanent retirement of any bloody authoritarian seeking to censor the net by brute-force attack. ( Sear. Policy analysis markets )

And yes in case yr wondering - I couldn&#039;t give a rats about the federal government.
Now we have the net we don&#039; need no steenkin&#039; Conroy government. Hasta la vista Stevie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My priorities are two</p>
<p>1) Self-managed Blogs that strictly respect and observe natural-justice in all their day-to-day moderation proceedings.<br />
Openness. transparency. Right of appeal, presumption of innocence, etc.</p>
<p>2) Net based prediction markets ( My 2c) that pay out on the nail to the nearest correct prediction of the the permanent retirement of any bloody authoritarian seeking to censor the net by brute-force attack. ( Sear. Policy analysis markets )</p>
<p>And yes in case yr wondering &#8211; I couldn&#8217;t give a rats about the federal government.<br />
Now we have the net we don&#8217; need no steenkin&#8217; Conroy government. Hasta la vista Stevie.</p>
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		<title>By: Snurb</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/22/glogging/#comment-187217</link>
		<dc:creator>Snurb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tyro @1: Just to clarify - I&#039;m certainly not suggesting a carbon-copy of the Slashdot moderation system. I do advocate learning from that and other self-moderation systems which help large communities manage themselves, though (obviously with an eye on the emerging community of participants on the DBCDE site, and its specific features). Slashdot&#039;s one of the oldest and best-known sites using such a system, but that&#039;s not to say there aren&#039;t others better suited to the task; a bit of added peer-moderation, at any rate, is what may be very helpful for the DBCDE site.

(If people have their favourite peer-moderation schemes in large Websites, incidentally, I&#039;d love to hear about them - snurb(at)snurb.info.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyro @1: Just to clarify &#8211; I&#8217;m certainly not suggesting a carbon-copy of the Slashdot moderation system. I do advocate learning from that and other self-moderation systems which help large communities manage themselves, though (obviously with an eye on the emerging community of participants on the DBCDE site, and its specific features). Slashdot&#8217;s one of the oldest and best-known sites using such a system, but that&#8217;s not to say there aren&#8217;t others better suited to the task; a bit of added peer-moderation, at any rate, is what may be very helpful for the DBCDE site.</p>
<p>(If people have their favourite peer-moderation schemes in large Websites, incidentally, I&#8217;d love to hear about them &#8211; snurb(at)snurb.info.)</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Bath</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/22/glogging/#comment-187216</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Bath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t shut the gate after the horses have bolted.  That would be political suicide, both angering concerned citizens, and giving the opposition an opportunity to say &quot;Conroy didn&#039;t think this through, what the hell does an apparatchik know about the complexities of technology and sociology of the digital SOCIETY (not just economy)&quot;.

But I must wonder if Conroy had read the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.finance.gov.au/publications/australian-government-consultation-blog-discussion-paper/features.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;breadth of features&lt;/a&gt; outlined in the discussion paper on this topic more than a year ago, and, more the the point, the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.finance.gov.au/publications/australian-government-consultation-blog-discussion-paper/features.html#challenges&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sections on challenges of such channels&lt;/a&gt; between politicians and the citizenry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t shut the gate after the horses have bolted.  That would be political suicide, both angering concerned citizens, and giving the opposition an opportunity to say &quot;Conroy didn&#8217;t think this through, what the hell does an apparatchik know about the complexities of technology and sociology of the digital SOCIETY (not just economy)&quot;.</p>
<p>But I must wonder if Conroy had read the <a href="http://www.finance.gov.au/publications/australian-government-consultation-blog-discussion-paper/features.html" rel="nofollow">breadth of features</a> outlined in the discussion paper on this topic more than a year ago, and, more the the point, the <a href="http://www.finance.gov.au/publications/australian-government-consultation-blog-discussion-paper/features.html#challenges" rel="nofollow">sections on challenges of such channels</a> between politicians and the citizenry.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro Rex</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/22/glogging/#comment-187215</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyro Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Axel Bruns proposes a slashdot-style comment moderation system but really, Slashdot comment threads are hardly the paragon of either civility or relevant self-moderation. There is way too much obviousness modded up as &quot;insightful&quot; and humourless irrelevance modded up as &quot;funny&quot;. Sure you can self select the weight you put on any of this - and there is meta-moderation too - but that sort of system is designed with Slashdot&#039;s technical audience in mind.

They really need to inject some personality into that blog. Even after commenting a couple of times on issues of interest, it&#039;s a bit mind-numbing. Expecially reading all the &#039;its all about the filter&#039; comments in threads that are supposed to be about other topics. What&#039;s happened is &quot;the net&quot; has become a single issue topic. And it&#039;s detracting from other equally important areas of the portfolio. For example, Government IT purchasing and software development policies (which builds skills by investing directly in them - in my opinion, many of the wrong ones).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Axel Bruns proposes a slashdot-style comment moderation system but really, Slashdot comment threads are hardly the paragon of either civility or relevant self-moderation. There is way too much obviousness modded up as &#8220;insightful&#8221; and humourless irrelevance modded up as &#8220;funny&#8221;. Sure you can self select the weight you put on any of this &#8211; and there is meta-moderation too &#8211; but that sort of system is designed with Slashdot&#8217;s technical audience in mind.</p>
<p>They really need to inject some personality into that blog. Even after commenting a couple of times on issues of interest, it&#8217;s a bit mind-numbing. Expecially reading all the &#8216;its all about the filter&#8217; comments in threads that are supposed to be about other topics. What&#8217;s happened is &#8220;the net&#8221; has become a single issue topic. And it&#8217;s detracting from other equally important areas of the portfolio. For example, Government IT purchasing and software development policies (which builds skills by investing directly in them &#8211; in my opinion, many of the wrong ones).</p>
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