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		<title>By: joe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 11:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t encourage him, Kathy. He&#039;s such a media tart, he just might do it. And if his performance as mayor is anything to go by it might be a cruel experience for everyone. Keep the good work up, buskers help make the place human.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t encourage him, Kathy. He&#8217;s such a media tart, he just might do it. And if his performance as mayor is anything to go by it might be a cruel experience for everyone. Keep the good work up, buskers help make the place human.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy Cole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy Cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 09:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a busker and I think &quot;Doyle &quot; should do a bit of busking himself. It&#039;s not an easy job . I play keyboard and sing , and smiles are priceless. But it&#039;s hard work and somone singing there own music on the street , I agree with my brother , when he says &quot;Theres nothing worse than hoaring your own music on the street &quot; He&#039;s right , but personally I like to see people&#039;s facess light up with a smile and for once forget about thier problems , temporarily.

I had a woman who was watching me , and I kept playing not knowing that she was crying , until about fifteen mins later , I stopped playing , and asked her if I&#039;d done anything to offend her ...I was really worried , and she threw some money in , completly sobbing saying &quot; No , Thank you , you touched my heart...Thank you &quot; Gee that stunned me , and there a buisness mean that drop in a note with tears in there eyes , saying thank you.

I write the words from my heart , but sometimes it&#039;s tough , it&#039;s hard work and very tiring.

Robert Doyle should do busking for 24 hours and see what it&#039;s like .

How about it Doyle ?
Cheers everyone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a busker and I think &#8220;Doyle &#8221; should do a bit of busking himself. It&#8217;s not an easy job . I play keyboard and sing , and smiles are priceless. But it&#8217;s hard work and somone singing there own music on the street , I agree with my brother , when he says &#8220;Theres nothing worse than hoaring your own music on the street &#8221; He&#8217;s right , but personally I like to see people&#8217;s facess light up with a smile and for once forget about thier problems , temporarily.</p>
<p>I had a woman who was watching me , and I kept playing not knowing that she was crying , until about fifteen mins later , I stopped playing , and asked her if I&#8217;d done anything to offend her &#8230;I was really worried , and she threw some money in , completly sobbing saying &#8221; No , Thank you , you touched my heart&#8230;Thank you &#8221; Gee that stunned me , and there a buisness mean that drop in a note with tears in there eyes , saying thank you.</p>
<p>I write the words from my heart , but sometimes it&#8217;s tough , it&#8217;s hard work and very tiring.</p>
<p>Robert Doyle should do busking for 24 hours and see what it&#8217;s like .</p>
<p>How about it Doyle ?<br />
Cheers everyone</p>
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		<title>By: H&#38;R</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/25/melbourne-no-bad-buskers-allowed/#comment-187517</link>
		<dc:creator>H&#38;R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 05:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe there is also some sort of fee for use of each time block, but I’m not sure about that.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Government: BAWWWWWW people are making a buck we can&#039;t control, let us force our greasy mits into the pie! We&#039;re the GOVERNMENT!

Busking should be totally unregulated save for acceptable performance hours.  Stuff London&#039;s approach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I believe there is also some sort of fee for use of each time block, but I’m not sure about that.</p></blockquote>
<p>Government: BAWWWWWW people are making a buck we can&#8217;t control, let us force our greasy mits into the pie! We&#8217;re the GOVERNMENT!</p>
<p>Busking should be totally unregulated save for acceptable performance hours.  Stuff London&#8217;s approach.</p>
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		<title>By: Matilda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matilda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 04:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The older lady with the long grey hair used to play in the DJs foyer about 13-15 years ago; the piano accompaniment certainly added a genteel element to the DJs shopping experience! Not that i ever bought much!  I recognised her last week in the Bourke street mall, she has quite a distinctive appearance and there aren&#039;t many elderly female buskers, even fewer with long grey hair.  So i&#039;m sure she&#039;s an accomplished pianist - not that i&#039;m in a position to judge musical talent.

Her stint at DJs got her coverage on the telly at the time, she is clearly someone with an interesting life story.

Adrien, I wouldn&#039;t dispute that some of the amplified acts in the Mall are talented musicians.  I will keep a look out for the Japanese blues dude.  But it can also be a question of musical taste or preference, and you don&#039;t really have a chance to opt out of listening when it&#039;s so in your face, due to the loudness.  So by allowing good acts to mike-up, isn&#039;t it creating a precedent that allows all cashed-up buskers to amplify their music?

Those South American folk singers in traditional garb play great music i&#039;m sure. But with all their speaker boxes it really takes over, would prefer to listen to their Andean ballads (if that&#039;s the right description) in comfort at home. They&#039;ve been there for years, they must have made a packet by now, seems like instead of hiring a concert venue, they&#039;ve got an almost cost-free venue.  And they would probably get the Lord Doyle seal of approval over some lone guy with a guitar who&#039;s just starting out.

I was in town early on a summer Friday night a few years ago when there was an astounding number of Bible preachers spruiking their wares, all with microphones. Being both loud and hyperbolic in its hell fire and damnation message, the hubris of it was offensive.  So i just think, be done with the mikes and that puts everyone on a more level playing field.

Thankyou feral sparrowhawk for your explanation of MCC preference shenanigans.  Why would they want Doyle over Ng, i wonder? Guess it&#039;s the Boys Club, they understand each other, these Spring street types - and Brumby &amp; co. are desperate to keep the big end of town on side(Like Labor everywhere over the last decade or so).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The older lady with the long grey hair used to play in the DJs foyer about 13-15 years ago; the piano accompaniment certainly added a genteel element to the DJs shopping experience! Not that i ever bought much!  I recognised her last week in the Bourke street mall, she has quite a distinctive appearance and there aren&#8217;t many elderly female buskers, even fewer with long grey hair.  So i&#8217;m sure she&#8217;s an accomplished pianist &#8211; not that i&#8217;m in a position to judge musical talent.</p>
<p>Her stint at DJs got her coverage on the telly at the time, she is clearly someone with an interesting life story.</p>
<p>Adrien, I wouldn&#8217;t dispute that some of the amplified acts in the Mall are talented musicians.  I will keep a look out for the Japanese blues dude.  But it can also be a question of musical taste or preference, and you don&#8217;t really have a chance to opt out of listening when it&#8217;s so in your face, due to the loudness.  So by allowing good acts to mike-up, isn&#8217;t it creating a precedent that allows all cashed-up buskers to amplify their music?</p>
<p>Those South American folk singers in traditional garb play great music i&#8217;m sure. But with all their speaker boxes it really takes over, would prefer to listen to their Andean ballads (if that&#8217;s the right description) in comfort at home. They&#8217;ve been there for years, they must have made a packet by now, seems like instead of hiring a concert venue, they&#8217;ve got an almost cost-free venue.  And they would probably get the Lord Doyle seal of approval over some lone guy with a guitar who&#8217;s just starting out.</p>
<p>I was in town early on a summer Friday night a few years ago when there was an astounding number of Bible preachers spruiking their wares, all with microphones. Being both loud and hyperbolic in its hell fire and damnation message, the hubris of it was offensive.  So i just think, be done with the mikes and that puts everyone on a more level playing field.</p>
<p>Thankyou feral sparrowhawk for your explanation of MCC preference shenanigans.  Why would they want Doyle over Ng, i wonder? Guess it&#8217;s the Boys Club, they understand each other, these Spring street types &#8211; and Brumby &amp; co. are desperate to keep the big end of town on side(Like Labor everywhere over the last decade or so).</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 06:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Frankly, it’s hard to trust that Doyle appreciates the varied tastes of Melburnians.&lt;/i&gt;
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That&#039;s not true:
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Doyle&#039;s Law For Buskers:
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1. Play some Barnsey
2. And some Creedence
3. And some Barnsey
4. And maybe a little Classical for the fruity critics and da proove we&#039;ve got sum kulcha
5. And Jazz but not that stuff with all the notes just the stuff they play in elevators
6. And no people with funny clothes whaddoo they know about music
7. And get Gazza, Spazza, Davo and Rob from Triple D: Radio Smooth and Bland to make some other rules so we can make buskin&#039; professional.
8. Play some Barnsey.
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My rule for players of Corporate Rock is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.videosift.com/video/Animal-House-guitar-smash-scene&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; and also no &quot;Wonderwall&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Frankly, it’s hard to trust that Doyle appreciates the varied tastes of Melburnians.</i><br />
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That&#8217;s not true:<br />
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Doyle&#8217;s Law For Buskers:<br />
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1. Play some Barnsey<br />
2. And some Creedence<br />
3. And some Barnsey<br />
4. And maybe a little Classical for the fruity critics and da proove we&#8217;ve got sum kulcha<br />
5. And Jazz but not that stuff with all the notes just the stuff they play in elevators<br />
6. And no people with funny clothes whaddoo they know about music<br />
7. And get Gazza, Spazza, Davo and Rob from Triple D: Radio Smooth and Bland to make some other rules so we can make buskin&#8217; professional.<br />
8. Play some Barnsey.<br />
.<br />
My rule for players of Corporate Rock is <a href="http://www.videosift.com/video/Animal-House-guitar-smash-scene" rel="nofollow">this</a> and also no &#8220;Wonderwall&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Adrien on this one (don&#039;t make a habit of it ;) )

Frankly, it&#039;s hard to trust that Doyle appreciates the varied tastes of Melburnians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Adrien on this one (don&#8217;t make a habit of it <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>Frankly, it&#8217;s hard to trust that Doyle appreciates the varied tastes of Melburnians.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Errh, I think I know the person you mean, and IMHO she can’t play a note, and single note pinging in an “atmospheric” fashion is not music.&lt;/i&gt;
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If this is the elderly woman who plays the piano she plays beautifully. I haven&#039;t seen any other buskers who fit that description.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Errh, I think I know the person you mean, and IMHO she can’t play a note, and single note pinging in an “atmospheric” fashion is not music.</i><br />
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If this is the elderly woman who plays the piano she plays beautifully. I haven&#8217;t seen any other buskers who fit that description.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Incidentally, one of the most wonderful buskers recently witnessed in Melbourne was an old woman with long grey hair &quot;

Errh, I think I know the person you mean, and IMHO she can&#039;t play a note, and single note pinging in an &quot;atmospheric&quot; fashion is not music.

That said however, have a look at how London does it.   High traffic sites are identified and buskers audition and are licenced.   This seems to be what Doyle is talking about.

The sites are allocated in 1 hour blocks (every Tuesday I think).   An acquaintance of mine (who is a professional musician) does this.   He works the Tottenham Court tube for a few hours most Saturdays and does quite well.  About 200 GBP an hour he reckons.

I believe there is also some sort of fee for use of each time block, but I&#039;m not sure about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Incidentally, one of the most wonderful buskers recently witnessed in Melbourne was an old woman with long grey hair &#8221;</p>
<p>Errh, I think I know the person you mean, and IMHO she can&#8217;t play a note, and single note pinging in an &#8220;atmospheric&#8221; fashion is not music.</p>
<p>That said however, have a look at how London does it.   High traffic sites are identified and buskers audition and are licenced.   This seems to be what Doyle is talking about.</p>
<p>The sites are allocated in 1 hour blocks (every Tuesday I think).   An acquaintance of mine (who is a professional musician) does this.   He works the Tottenham Court tube for a few hours most Saturdays and does quite well.  About 200 GBP an hour he reckons.</p>
<p>I believe there is also some sort of fee for use of each time block, but I&#8217;m not sure about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Doyle is not Boris Johnson.

Although he wishes he was.

Have you met the guy? I have. And I bet he won&#039;t last long as Lord Mayor. He&#039;s got the worst people skills of any professional pollie I&#039;ve met. He can only talk up or down, never at the same level.

On the other hand though, he may do the math and bubble up in the role. Like Irvin Rockman. (A very sardonic Melbournian in-joke there)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Doyle is not Boris Johnson.</p>
<p>Although he wishes he was.</p>
<p>Have you met the guy? I have. And I bet he won&#8217;t last long as Lord Mayor. He&#8217;s got the worst people skills of any professional pollie I&#8217;ve met. He can only talk up or down, never at the same level.</p>
<p>On the other hand though, he may do the math and bubble up in the role. Like Irvin Rockman. (A very sardonic Melbournian in-joke there)</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 11:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jacques Brel, you are verrry welcome to come busking in the little veellage we call &quot;Melbourne&quot; of an English Lord, m&#039;sieur; and then one day it could be named instead Brelville, oui? What are you calling an elephant that &#039;as flute with his trunk? A Tusker Busker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques Brel, you are verrry welcome to come busking in the little veellage we call &#8220;Melbourne&#8221; of an English Lord, m&#8217;sieur; and then one day it could be named instead Brelville, oui? What are you calling an elephant that &#8216;as flute with his trunk? A Tusker Busker.</p>
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