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	<title>Comments on: Howard&#8217;s back! II</title>
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		<title>By: terangeree</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/06/howards-back-ii/comment-page-2/#comment-604389</link>
		<dc:creator>terangeree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 13:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But it&#039;s Blair House for Zokor, Mrs Zokor, and &lt;em&gt;entourage&lt;/em&gt;. At the Australian taxpayer&#039;s expense, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But it&#8217;s Blair House for Zokor, Mrs Zokor, and <em>entourage</em>. At the Australian taxpayer&#8217;s expense, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: DesLivres</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/06/howards-back-ii/comment-page-2/#comment-604338</link>
		<dc:creator>DesLivres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My view of JH is the same as Lovell@55&#039;s. 

Having said that, unpleasant as they are, they are only 2 people, and Blair House has 119 rooms. How come there wasn&#039;t room for another 4 people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My view of JH is the same as Lovell@55&#8217;s. </p>
<p>Having said that, unpleasant as they are, they are only 2 people, and Blair House has 119 rooms. How come there wasn&#8217;t room for another 4 people?</p>
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		<title>By: terangeree</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/06/howards-back-ii/comment-page-2/#comment-604324</link>
		<dc:creator>terangeree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 11:55:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the website &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/01/10/john-howard-mentors-barnaby-joyce-to-move-to-lower-house/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Agmates Rural News&lt;/a&gt;, Australa&#039;s favorite zokor is advising Barney Joyce to move to the House of Reps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the website <a href="http://www.agmates.com/blog/2009/01/10/john-howard-mentors-barnaby-joyce-to-move-to-lower-house/" rel="nofollow">Agmates Rural News</a>, Australa&#8217;s favorite zokor is advising Barney Joyce to move to the House of Reps.</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/06/howards-back-ii/comment-page-2/#comment-603476</link>
		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 23:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Dazza @62: going into baghdad streets would be way safer than getting between Hyacinth and the chance to be on the receiving end of some old fashioned new-idea-type Pomp and Circumstance: 119 rooms, that&#039;s what I call a doll&#039;s house to play dress ups in. 
David Rowe gave us a puzzling and disturbing &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/the-kitchensink-index/2007/12/23/1198175424017.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;image  &lt;/a&gt; of what the PM&#039;s have to deal with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Dazza @62: going into baghdad streets would be way safer than getting between Hyacinth and the chance to be on the receiving end of some old fashioned new-idea-type Pomp and Circumstance: 119 rooms, that&#8217;s what I call a doll&#8217;s house to play dress ups in.<br />
David Rowe gave us a puzzling and disturbing <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/opinion/the-kitchensink-index/2007/12/23/1198175424017.html" rel="nofollow">image  </a> of what the PM&#8217;s have to deal with.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 04:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can, boo. Its a reflex lie. He&#039;s done it so many times that he probably no longer realises he&#039;s doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can, boo. Its a reflex lie. He&#8217;s done it so many times that he probably no longer realises he&#8217;s doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: boo</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/06/howards-back-ii/comment-page-2/#comment-602603</link>
		<dc:creator>boo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 02:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot believe that he &amp; his are still trotting out the &quot;nobody told John&quot; defence - too funny (at least it is now that he&#039;s out of office).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot believe that he &amp; his are still trotting out the &#8220;nobody told John&#8221; defence &#8211; too funny (at least it is now that he&#8217;s out of office).</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, yes, I readily admit all that, joe2. OMG, I&#039;m getting nasty shivers up the spine the way one does when one hears creeaking chalk on a blackboard just thinking about the little turd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yes, I readily admit all that, joe2. OMG, I&#8217;m getting nasty shivers up the spine the way one does when one hears creeaking chalk on a blackboard just thinking about the little turd.</p>
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		<title>By: terangeree</title>
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		<dc:creator>terangeree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 23:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kingsley tap-danced the following upon the board of keys:
&lt;blockquote&gt;So we have a situation where Howard was properly offered accomodation at Blair House then the Obama’s request to move in weeks earlier than normal and its apparently all John Howard’s fault.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Old chap, did you miss Shaun&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28544447/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;? Here is the relevant part of the interview for you:

&lt;blockquote&gt;CARLSON:  Well, I reported, but also the “Washington Post” reported on December 11th and 12th that there were no foreign dignitaries booked into Blair House during that period of time. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

JWH was, apparently, the &lt;em&gt;third&lt;/em&gt; on the list, after Blair House was offered to the other two recipients of the medal -- Tony Blair and Alvaro Uribe. Blair is staying at the British Embassy, and Uribe also declined the offer of Blair House. Uribe&#039;s political history is, to say the least, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.colombiajournal.org/colombia185.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;, interesting,&lt;/a&gt; with explicit links to an &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Self-Defense_Forces_of_Colombia&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;organization&lt;/a&gt; which the US State Department &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/37191.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;classes&lt;/a&gt; as a foreign terrorist group (they&#039;re number 42 on the list).

But as I&#039;m beginning to ride off on a tangent, I&#039;ll stop at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kingsley tap-danced the following upon the board of keys:</p>
<blockquote><p>So we have a situation where Howard was properly offered accomodation at Blair House then the Obama’s request to move in weeks earlier than normal and its apparently all John Howard’s fault.</p></blockquote>
<p>Old chap, did you miss Shaun&#8217;s <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28544447/" rel="nofollow">link</a>? Here is the relevant part of the interview for you:</p>
<blockquote><p>CARLSON:  Well, I reported, but also the “Washington Post” reported on December 11th and 12th that there were no foreign dignitaries booked into Blair House during that period of time. </p></blockquote>
<p>JWH was, apparently, the <em>third</em> on the list, after Blair House was offered to the other two recipients of the medal &#8212; Tony Blair and Alvaro Uribe. Blair is staying at the British Embassy, and Uribe also declined the offer of Blair House. Uribe&#8217;s political history is, to say the least, <a href="http://www.colombiajournal.org/colombia185.htm" rel="nofollow">, interesting,</a> with explicit links to an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Self-Defense_Forces_of_Colombia" rel="nofollow">organization</a> which the US State Department <a href="http://www.state.gov/s/ct/rls/fs/37191.htm" rel="nofollow">classes</a> as a foreign terrorist group (they&#8217;re number 42 on the list).</p>
<p>But as I&#8217;m beginning to ride off on a tangent, I&#8217;ll stop at that.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/06/howards-back-ii/comment-page-2/#comment-602432</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Fair go. Les Patterson is funny.&quot;

True, Paul, but you have to admit that Howard is further developing the role of an excruciatingly embarrassing ambassador who splutters, sucks up and over-indulges. While its not funny, for the reasons Ken nails so well, he is certainly giving old Les a run for his money in the current cringeworthy stakes. Though Dolly is still in with an outside chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Fair go. Les Patterson is funny.&#8221;</p>
<p>True, Paul, but you have to admit that Howard is further developing the role of an excruciatingly embarrassing ambassador who splutters, sucks up and over-indulges. While its not funny, for the reasons Ken nails so well, he is certainly giving old Les a run for his money in the current cringeworthy stakes. Though Dolly is still in with an outside chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken Lovell @ 55,
Couldn&#039;t agree more.

Kingsley,
One of the reasons I like calling Howard Ratty is because it annoys RWDBs. To the point that when I called him that in a letter to the local paper some time ago one of Armidale&#039;s better known RWDBs publicly remonstrated with me about it in the Armidale Mall. Now that&#039;s what I call a successful agitation. My only objection to the term is it sometimes obscures all the disgusting things Howard did while PM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Lovell @ 55,<br />
Couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p>Kingsley,<br />
One of the reasons I like calling Howard Ratty is because it annoys RWDBs. To the point that when I called him that in a letter to the local paper some time ago one of Armidale&#8217;s better known RWDBs publicly remonstrated with me about it in the Armidale Mall. Now that&#8217;s what I call a successful agitation. My only objection to the term is it sometimes obscures all the disgusting things Howard did while PM.</p>
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		<title>By: Darin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kinsley

 I don&#039;t blame John Howard at all for this. We all know Janette would spank him if he tried to move to a common hotel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Kinsley</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t blame John Howard at all for this. We all know Janette would spank him if he tried to move to a common hotel.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlon</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/06/howards-back-ii/comment-page-2/#comment-601974</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 09:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Keep it up Kingsley. If you achieve nothing else you’re posts have been making me laugh.&quot;

Ditto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Keep it up Kingsley. If you achieve nothing else you’re posts have been making me laugh.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ditto.</p>
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		<title>By: Pollytickedoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pollytickedoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Some of you pointed out some nasty things get said about rudd at Tim Blairs. I’m sure sometimes they do, so what&quot;

So you implied that it was only the left that do that. 

Keep it up Kingsley. If you achieve nothing else you&#039;re posts have been making me laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Some of you pointed out some nasty things get said about rudd at Tim Blairs. I’m sure sometimes they do, so what&#8221;</p>
<p>So you implied that it was only the left that do that. </p>
<p>Keep it up Kingsley. If you achieve nothing else you&#8217;re posts have been making me laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kemp</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/06/howards-back-ii/comment-page-2/#comment-601959</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Interesting that Mark has posts up on Gaza wishing both sides would see reason and plenty of people quite reasonably agreeing with him and yet we have this sort of mentality in relation to Howard and Bush at the same place.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To repeat a well known saying, Kingsley:

&lt;blockquote&gt;You&#039;re either with us or against us.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Interesting that Mark has posts up on Gaza wishing both sides would see reason and plenty of people quite reasonably agreeing with him and yet we have this sort of mentality in relation to Howard and Bush at the same place.</p></blockquote>
<p>To repeat a well known saying, Kingsley:</p>
<blockquote><p>You&#8217;re either with us or against us.</p></blockquote>
<p> <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kingsley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kingsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doing a quick google search most articles such as this

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1004502/latest-from-wire/

mention that the Obamas indeed have requested an EARLY acomodation at Blair House.

So we have a situation where Howard was properly offered accomodation at Blair House then the Obama&#039;s request to move in weeks earlier than normal and its apparently all John Howard&#039;s fault. It&#039;s apparently even a conspiracy by Bush to insult Obama. 
This is exactly what I mean some of you who are by and large pretty calm and collected ordinarily succumb to this sort of thinking whenever it involves Bush or Haward. 

Some of you pointed out some nasty things get said about rudd at Tim Blairs. I&#039;m sure sometimes they do, so what. How does that constitute licence to smear Howard?

Interesting that Mark has posts up on Gaza wishing both sides would see reason and plenty of people quite reasonably agreeing with him and yet we have this sort of mentality in relation to Howard and Bush at the same place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doing a quick google search most articles such as this</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1004502/latest-from-wire/" rel="nofollow">http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1004502/latest-from-wire/</a></p>
<p>mention that the Obamas indeed have requested an EARLY acomodation at Blair House.</p>
<p>So we have a situation where Howard was properly offered accomodation at Blair House then the Obama&#8217;s request to move in weeks earlier than normal and its apparently all John Howard&#8217;s fault. It&#8217;s apparently even a conspiracy by Bush to insult Obama.<br />
This is exactly what I mean some of you who are by and large pretty calm and collected ordinarily succumb to this sort of thinking whenever it involves Bush or Haward. </p>
<p>Some of you pointed out some nasty things get said about rudd at Tim Blairs. I&#8217;m sure sometimes they do, so what. How does that constitute licence to smear Howard?</p>
<p>Interesting that Mark has posts up on Gaza wishing both sides would see reason and plenty of people quite reasonably agreeing with him and yet we have this sort of mentality in relation to Howard and Bush at the same place.</p>
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		<title>By: terangeree</title>
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		<dc:creator>terangeree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Howard led the liberation of the E Timorese.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So, what exactly do you think &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanana_Gusm%C3%A3o&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Xanana Gusmao&lt;/a&gt; did in 1999? Sell choc-ices on the beach at Dili?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Howard led the liberation of the E Timorese.</p></blockquote>
<p>So, what exactly do you think <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xanana_Gusm%C3%A3o" rel="nofollow">Xanana Gusmao</a> did in 1999? Sell choc-ices on the beach at Dili?</p>
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		<title>By: Pollytickedoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pollytickedoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From LeftyE&#039;s link 

&quot;Mr Howard has stressed that he is staying there for just one night.&quot;

Even more reason, I would have thought, why he would (indeed should) have offered to move to a hotel when he became aware of it. The fact that he hasn&#039;t...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From LeftyE&#8217;s link </p>
<p>&#8220;Mr Howard has stressed that he is staying there for just one night.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even more reason, I would have thought, why he would (indeed should) have offered to move to a hotel when he became aware of it. The fact that he hasn&#8217;t&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Lovell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kingsley I don&#039;t normally call Howard &#039;the rodent&#039; or any other cute name. I loathe and despise him as an amoral, self-serving grub who committed our nation to a war of aggression and made us complicit in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people and the immiseration of millions of others, just to serve his own selfish interests. Howard based his career on dishonesty and systematic exploitation of the most unsavoury aspects of people&#039;s characters. He is our very own epitomisation of the banality of evil.

My contempt is for the man and his motives, not his political decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kingsley I don&#8217;t normally call Howard &#8216;the rodent&#8217; or any other cute name. I loathe and despise him as an amoral, self-serving grub who committed our nation to a war of aggression and made us complicit in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people and the immiseration of millions of others, just to serve his own selfish interests. Howard based his career on dishonesty and systematic exploitation of the most unsavoury aspects of people&#8217;s characters. He is our very own epitomisation of the banality of evil.</p>
<p>My contempt is for the man and his motives, not his political decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joe2 @ 51,

Fair go. Les Patterson is funny.</description>
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<p>Fair go. Les Patterson is funny.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlon</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/06/howards-back-ii/comment-page-2/#comment-601694</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard booking into the &quot;Backpackers&quot; would be social climbing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard booking into the &#8220;Backpackers&#8221; would be social climbing.</p>
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