If anybody has an on topic contribution to make, please email me.

Incidentally, Adrien – it would seem I owe you thanks, old chap – for merely being a “dopey wanker” rather than a “genocidal maniac” and/or “anti-Zionist (possibly anti-semite) exterminationist”. Cheers!

I don’t know how you do it though. Its like a meeting of paranoiacs whipping each other into a symptomatic frenzy. The thread reminds me of that Simpsons episode where in the end they’re all agreed that it was “the saucer people — under the supervision of the reverse vampires” what dunnit..
..with you and Soon doing your best Lisa Simpson.

I don’t follow the Israeli voting intentions polling as it unfolds but the players in contention there do intently. So if for example Netanyahu were to call for a stronger response he might be seen as tougher or more reckless by the swinging voters and I just don’t know, but IMV the current government response will be based on what electoral advantage is perceived so we will have to wait and see. All will be fully revealed in just over one months time.

I note that the shift of spin now is all towards destroying the tunnels out the back of the world’s largest prison into Egypt. Naturally tunnels can be destroyed and the Palestinian government will want them gone, once the border has been normalized.

I also note that the issue of Syria is also creeping into the picture.

Desipis; The Palestinians are war weary people in desperate need of peace. My view is that the best assumption at this stage would be that a revolutionary peace will break out because a people that have had war made on them for over sixty years and that have just won their own state could be expected to seek a ‘peace dividend’ and try to build a life.

When the Palestinian state comes in the not to distant future it will have been won through an incredible level of struggle, that has inevitably militarized almost its entire population of young men. The occupiers have jailed many thousands of them for their resistance activities, so the victory will very likely bring forth a dominant new and democratic political leadership setting off what amounts to a revolutionary transformation. Reform from top to bottom might well be ‘the order of the day’ from the word go with the new president Marwan Barghouti and all of the thousands of other released prisoners playing a very prominent role in reforming their society.

This state when it is established will have enough to do making ‘war’ on the abject poverty that it finds itself in and that it has been deliberately driven to by its Zionist oppressors. But remember this new state will come into existence while world wide capitalism is convulsing in one of its well known massive crisis of overproduction the boom having now ended in the inevitable bust after being prolonged by extending credit. So it strikes me as realistic to speculate that even a form of social revolution as being immediately on the agenda.

What that means in a moderately Islamic society where the masses seeks personal freedoms of the Lebanese form but have little capital and when their giant neighbor Egypt is also very likely to be convulsing it’s way through a revolution as one of the weakest links in the world capitalist systems is anybodies guess.

We are living through interesting times!

On the psych front it’s interesting that a whole phenomenon (the Hostile Media Effect) was identified through research on people’s perception of media coverage of the I/P conflcit.

Gaza is an area the same size as Sydney’s Northern beaches, from Manly to Pittwater, yet it is being attacked by some of the world’s most sophisticated rockets, jet planes, helicopter guns ships, the Israeli Navy and Israel’s vast number of tanks and well-trained army.
The response has been nothing short of genocide. So many unarmed women and children are being killed, any right thinking person must realize this is not just a response to rocket attacks of Hamas to Israeli territory.

My italics.

Of course the are many Palestinians who are outraged over the existence of Israel, but considering what has been done to them within living memory I hardly think that this requires much psychoanalysis. And even they have been prepared to accept the 67 borders.