Comments on: Science, denialism or unconscionable fraud?

By: Adrien

Adrien — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:45:11 +0000

Never forget the number of Australians who take a continuing interest in politics is very small indeed.
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Hard to forget. I live in the middle of Luvvieland and no-one I know gives a royal rat’s. Which is probably why I plague the blogs.
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And Bolt can’t even get as many page views on his blog – operating under a metropolitan masthead – as we do on this one!
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N’ah, n’ah-n’uh, n’ah-n’ah!

By: Brian

Brian — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:41:12 +0000

No apology necessary. It's partly about deniers, delusionists (Quiggin's term) or however they can be politely designated. I'm a bit busy today, but I plan to get back to him. Generally I don't spend much time on Bolt but he's classic on the Arctic. If you want examples of him being found to be dishonest, try this from Tim Lambert. On his influence generally, it's hard to say. His notorious 'six graphs' article was sent to me by country relatives. It was obviously being shared around. I'm assured by my rellies that they do not know a single person out there who buys the AGW story. But I ran into a guy a couple of years ago who was a neighbour on the farm next door. He had read a book by a bloke called Yeomans, the son of the Yeomans who invented the chisel plow and keyline farming. This guy, who was always prepared to stand apart from the rest, was definitely a full bottle on AGW.

By: Ben Eltham

Ben Eltham — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 01:45:40 +0000

Apologies for taking the thread off-topic.

By: David Irving (no relation)

David Irving (no relation) — Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:37:14 +0000

Thanks, andyc. That’s gold!

By: andyc

andyc — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:49:53 +0000

BilB@32: "What would be happening now had Gore won the US presidency? " See T A Frank in the Grauniad today.

By: BilB

BilB — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:07:15 +0000

I wonder how long it will be before the world starts to measure the cost to the worlds environment of the two idiots in the next thread. What would be happening now had Gore won the US presidency?

By: Mark

Mark — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:10:57 +0000

No probs, wpd.

By: wpd

wpd — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:05:51 +0000

Mark, thanks for that.

By: charles

charles — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:00:26 +0000

The thing is Harry the way out of the financial crises is to have a green bubble. I don’t care if we have it because the Ice is melting or the millionaire factory smells the money. I wish the denialists would just go away. They are slowing down the financial recovery. Silly wankers!

By: Harry "Snapper" Organs

Harry "Snapper" Organs — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 11:46:22 +0000

Unfortunately, take a look at the latest Essential Research polling on Pollbludger. Most Australians are now totally freaked by the global financial situation and the climate change debacle has slipped in terms of peoples’ concerns. I think there’s been something of an hiatus with the smaller Bush exiting, and Obama entering, in the U.S., as to whether there might be some shift in the U.S. position on climate change. Given the dire financial state of the U.S., for the short term at least, it may take some time before they can pay any attention to climate change seriously. Then, there’s the Middle East, and what do you do about that as an incoming POTUS? I suspect it means it’s too late. Sorry to be so pessimistic, and I hope I’m wrong