Comments on: Papering over the cracks in C-M credibility with populism http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/ Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas Fri, 19 Mar 2010 09:51:40 +0000 hourly 1 By: Trubbel at Mill http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-619249 Trubbel at Mill Tue, 27 Jan 2009 06:54:03 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-619249 There must be a new Galaxy that the C-M is sitting on, given that little snippet in Sunday's paper under the Poison Dwarf's byline regarding the supposed perception of failure with the taxation adjustments to pre-mixed drinks. Perhaps it is unfavourable to the Pineapple Party and has been buried. There must be a new Galaxy that the C-M is sitting on, given that little snippet in Sunday’s paper under the Poison Dwarf’s byline regarding the supposed perception of failure with the taxation adjustments to pre-mixed drinks.

Perhaps it is unfavourable to the Pineapple Party and has been buried.

]]> By: Paul Norton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-619194 Paul Norton Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:53:29 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-619194 Antony, thanks for the clarifications. Antony, thanks for the clarifications.

]]> By: Riccardo http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-619189 Riccardo Tue, 27 Jan 2009 05:46:55 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-619189 Small point Mark,we have always been at war with Eurasia Small point Mark,we have always been at war with Eurasia

]]> By: steve http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-617060 steve Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:58:57 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-617060 OOps, the link is here: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/teen-lnp-candidate-ignores-party-line/2009/01/23/1232471580187.html OOps, the link is here:

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/teen-lnp-candidate-ignores-party-line/2009/01/23/1232471580187.html

]]> By: steve http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-617058 steve Fri, 23 Jan 2009 21:56:28 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-617058 Subtle change back to the old script from Nicholls. [An 18-year-old Liberal National Party candidate has broken ranks with his party to call on Queensland Premier Anna Bligh to hold an election next month. Michael Palmer, the son of billionaire LNP benefactor Clive Palmer, on Friday called on Ms Bligh to hold an election at the next available date, February 21.] Subtle change back to the old script from Nicholls.

[An 18-year-old Liberal National Party candidate has broken ranks with his party to call on Queensland Premier Anna Bligh to hold an election next month.

Michael Palmer, the son of billionaire LNP benefactor Clive Palmer, on Friday called on Ms Bligh to hold an election at the next available date, February 21.]

]]> By: steve http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616917 steve Fri, 23 Jan 2009 13:00:15 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616917 The last time there was a senate vacancy the Queensland Government sought legal advice on the validity of the Liberal Party constitution. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/bligh-seeks-legal-advice-on-new-senator/2007/03/23/1174597864883.html?s_cid=rss_brisbanetimes The last time there was a senate vacancy the Queensland Government sought legal advice on the validity of the Liberal Party constitution.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/bligh-seeks-legal-advice-on-new-senator/2007/03/23/1174597864883.html?s_cid=rss_brisbanetimes

]]> By: darin http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616892 darin Fri, 23 Jan 2009 11:48:08 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616892 I was with you until I saw "Howard" and "honourable" in the same sentence without a "not". Oh, and whale meat is over rated. What's dugong like? Less fat, should be ok as sashimi or maybe skewered with lemon, capsicum, and pineapple. I was with you until I saw “Howard” and “honourable” in the same sentence without a “not”.

Oh, and whale meat is over rated. What’s dugong like? Less fat, should be ok as sashimi or maybe skewered with lemon, capsicum, and pineapple.

]]> By: Antony Green http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616842 Antony Green Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:35:30 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616842 And on my argument about successor parrties. It is clear the Libs and Nats have only one successor party, the LNP. If the government tried to appoint an ex-National, then because there is no National Party anymore, this ex-National would have to be a member of the LNP. If the LNP then expelled him, he couldn't take the vacancy. Whoever is appointed must be the accepted candidate of the LNP. Another example. In 1987, Don Grimes resigned as a Tasmanian Senator. Labor pre-selected John Devereaux. Premier Robin Gray objected to him but Labor said Devereaux or nobody. By this stage Gray had whipped the parliament into a lather on the issue and they voted against Devereaux. The seat had to be left vacant as a result. The issue was sorted out by the subsequent double dissolution. John Howard to his credit told Gray to fill the vacancy with Labor's nominee. And when the Tasmanian Parliament didn't fill the seat, Howard refused to take advantage of the situation and gave Labor a pair for the vacant Senate position. I think Bligh would be under pressure to behave honourably, as did Don Dunstan, and the Federal Labor would be under pressure to behave honourably as did John Howard. And on my argument about successor parrties. It is clear the Libs and Nats have only one successor party, the LNP. If the government tried to appoint an ex-National, then because there is no National Party anymore, this ex-National would have to be a member of the LNP. If the LNP then expelled him, he couldn’t take the vacancy. Whoever is appointed must be the accepted candidate of the LNP.

Another example. In 1987, Don Grimes resigned as a Tasmanian Senator. Labor pre-selected John Devereaux. Premier Robin Gray objected to him but Labor said Devereaux or nobody. By this stage Gray had whipped the parliament into a lather on the issue and they voted against Devereaux. The seat had to be left vacant as a result. The issue was sorted out by the subsequent double dissolution.

John Howard to his credit told Gray to fill the vacancy with Labor’s nominee. And when the Tasmanian Parliament didn’t fill the seat, Howard refused to take advantage of the situation and gave Labor a pair for the vacant Senate position.

I think Bligh would be under pressure to behave honourably, as did Don Dunstan, and the Federal Labor would be under pressure to behave honourably as did John Howard.

]]> By: Antony Green http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616836 Antony Green Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:22:47 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616836 And further, most states have a similar provision relating to vacancies in their Legislative Councils. Most have had legal opinions about what to do if someone resigned who was an Independent or member of a party that no longer existed. The view is it is someone who can be viewed as some form of logical succesor and accepted as being associated with the former member. Secondly, they have to be logical enough as a successor to withstand a challenge to their position by somebody who has some other claim to be a succesor. And further, most states have a similar provision relating to vacancies in their Legislative Councils. Most have had legal opinions about what to do if someone resigned who was an Independent or member of a party that no longer existed. The view is it is someone who can be viewed as some form of logical succesor and accepted as being associated with the former member. Secondly, they have to be logical enough as a successor to withstand a challenge to their position by somebody who has some other claim to be a succesor.

]]> By: Antony Green http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616835 Antony Green Fri, 23 Jan 2009 09:17:49 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616835 Paul, Section 15 has been applied in this situation. In 1977, Steele Hall resigned from the Senate to contest the House. He was a member of the Liberal Movement, a party that no longer existed. Don Dunstan applied the new Section 15 to decide that the Australian Democrats were the successor party to the Liberal Movement and Janine Haines was appointed to the vacancy. The use of Party in Section 15 has nothing to do with the registration of political parties under the electoral act. Section 15 was inserted by referendum, 7 years before there were registered parties. The meaning of 'Party' in any case would be determined by the High Court as no definition of what a party is was inserted into the Constitution. The Constitution is not subserviant to the registration of parties in the Electoral Act, and if a case of this type reached the High Court, the Court would take a broader meaning of party than that defined in the Electoral Act. If there was a continuing Liberal or National Party seperate from the LNP, it would be more complex. The Queensland Parliament can basically appoint anyone they like, but the eligibility of anyone appointed can be challenged at once in the courts and if they were not from the same party, they would be prevented from taking their seat. If an LNP member was appointed to replace a Liberal or a National, someone with a lot of money could challenge the appointment before the High Court, but I doubt they would win. The Queensland Government could have some fun along the way, but I think the only person they could appoint would come from the LNP. It is the only a successor party. Paul, Section 15 has been applied in this situation. In 1977, Steele Hall resigned from the Senate to contest the House. He was a member of the Liberal Movement, a party that no longer existed. Don Dunstan applied the new Section 15 to decide that the Australian Democrats were the successor party to the Liberal Movement and Janine Haines was appointed to the vacancy.

The use of Party in Section 15 has nothing to do with the registration of political parties under the electoral act. Section 15 was inserted by referendum, 7 years before there were registered parties. The meaning of ‘Party’ in any case would be determined by the High Court as no definition of what a party is was inserted into the Constitution. The Constitution is not subserviant to the registration of parties in the Electoral Act, and if a case of this type reached the High Court, the Court would take a broader meaning of party than that defined in the Electoral Act.

If there was a continuing Liberal or National Party seperate from the LNP, it would be more complex. The Queensland Parliament can basically appoint anyone they like, but the eligibility of anyone appointed can be challenged at once in the courts and if they were not from the same party, they would be prevented from taking their seat. If an LNP member was appointed to replace a Liberal or a National, someone with a lot of money could challenge the appointment before the High Court, but I doubt they would win. The Queensland Government could have some fun along the way, but I think the only person they could appoint would come from the LNP. It is the only a successor party.

]]> By: steve http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616761 steve Fri, 23 Jan 2009 05:53:53 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616761 The ABS has released the latest Queensland stats today. http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/1318.3Main%20Features1Jan%202009?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=1318.3&issue=Jan%202009&num=&view= The ABS has released the latest Queensland stats today.

http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Latestproducts/1318.3Main%20Features1Jan%202009?opendocument&tabname=Summary&prodno=1318.3&issue=Jan%202009&num=&view=

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616667 Mark Fri, 23 Jan 2009 01:09:38 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616667 <blockquote>Mr Springborg, who has pointed to the LNP as an example of Coalition unity, declined to comment.</blockquote>

Mr Springborg, who has pointed to the LNP as an example of Coalition unity, declined to comment.

]]> By: Paul Norton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616652 Paul Norton Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:42:35 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616652 There sure is, Steve. My point is that s15 has yet to be applied in a situation where a Senator who is elected on a particular party ticket leaves to create a casual vacancy after that party has merged with another party which also contested that Senate election as a distinct party. Further, s15 provides no explicit guidance to the relevant State Parliament as to what to do in that situation. The LNP could argue that it is the legal successor to the National Party in Queensland and that the Parliament should accept its nominee, regardless of whether they were a Lib or a Nat at the last election, but I can also see an argument that the spirit and intent of s15 obliges the Queensland parliament to appoint, as a replacement for Joyce, somebody who represented themself as a National Party member at the last Senate election prior to the marger. Are there any constitutional lawyers out there who can help? There sure is, Steve. My point is that s15 has yet to be applied in a situation where a Senator who is elected on a particular party ticket leaves to create a casual vacancy after that party has merged with another party which also contested that Senate election as a distinct party. Further, s15 provides no explicit guidance to the relevant State Parliament as to what to do in that situation. The LNP could argue that it is the legal successor to the National Party in Queensland and that the Parliament should accept its nominee, regardless of whether they were a Lib or a Nat at the last election, but I can also see an argument that the spirit and intent of s15 obliges the Queensland parliament to appoint, as a replacement for Joyce, somebody who represented themself as a National Party member at the last Senate election prior to the marger. Are there any constitutional lawyers out there who can help?

]]> By: wilful http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616651 wilful Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:37:53 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616651 steve, that makes no sense to me. If there's a vacancy, a sitting senator is the candidate?? Huh? And in any event, they can write what they want, doesn't mean squat against the Constitution. <em>Where a vacancy has at any time occurred in the place of a senator chosen by the people of a State and, at the time when he was so chosen, he was publicly recognised by a particular political party as being an endorsed candidate, a person chosen or appointed under this section in consequence of that vacancy, or in consequence of that vacancy and a subsequent vacancy or vacancies, shall, unless there is no member of that party available to be chosen or appointed, be a member of that party. Where (a) in accordance with the last preceding paragraph, a member of a particular political party is chosen or appointed to hold the place of a senator whose place had become vacant; and (b) before taking his seat he cease to be a member of that party (otherwise than by reason of the party having ceased to exist), he shall be deemed not to have been so chosen or appointed and the vacancy shall be again notified in accordance with section twenty-one of this Constitution. </em> steve, that makes no sense to me. If there’s a vacancy, a sitting senator is the candidate?? Huh?

And in any event, they can write what they want, doesn’t mean squat against the Constitution.

Where a vacancy has at any time occurred in the place of a senator chosen by the people of a State and, at the time when he was so chosen, he was publicly recognised by a particular political party as being an endorsed candidate, a person chosen or appointed under this section in consequence of that vacancy, or in consequence of that vacancy and a subsequent vacancy or vacancies, shall, unless there is no member of that party available to be chosen or appointed, be a member of that party.

Where

(a) in accordance with the last preceding paragraph, a member of a particular political party is chosen or appointed to hold the place of a senator whose place had become vacant; and

(b) before taking his seat he cease to be a member of that party (otherwise than by reason of the party having ceased to exist),

he shall be deemed not to have been so chosen or appointed and the vacancy shall be again notified in accordance with section twenty-one of this Constitution.

]]> By: steve http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616647 steve Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:27:32 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616647 Paul, don't know that they would have to stoop to that. I think there is enough confusion here to mess up the process. [W.11 At the next half Senate election the following provisions shall apply to the endorsement and nomination of Senate candidates for the Party: (a) The order of candidates on the Senate ticket of the Liberal National Party of Queensland shall be as follows: 1. A sitting Senator whose term is expiring, who is a former Liberal and who offers for re-election; 2. A sitting Senator whose term is expiring, who is a former National and who offers for re- election; 3. A sitting Senator whose term is expiring, who is a former Liberal and who offers for re-election; 4. A sitting Senator whose term is expiring, who is a former Liberal and who offers for re-election; (b) Amongst such sitting Senators, the order shall be as follows:- (i) Senator the Hon. George Brandis; (ii) Senator Barnaby Joyce (iii) Senator the Hon. Brett Mason; (iv) Senator Russell Trood. (c) This clause is subject to any subsequent written agreement to the contrary signed for and on behalf of and with the authority of the Liberal National Party of Queensland, the Liberal Party of Australia and the National Party of Australia. W.12 In the event that there is a casual vacancy in the Senate, should any existing Senator or Senators seek endorsement for that position then the only candidate(s) who will be accepted for that endorsement will be that existing Senator or Senators. W.13 If any of the sitting Senators are not available for election, then the order as determined in (b)(i) to (iv) above shall move up to close off any non available Senator and any further preselected candidate will be added to the bottom of this order.] http://www.lnp.org.au/images/stories/PDFs/LNPConstitution080808.pdf Paul, don’t know that they would have to stoop to that. I think there is enough confusion here to mess up the process.

[W.11 At the next half Senate election the following provisions shall apply to the endorsement and nomination
of Senate candidates for the Party:
(a) The order of candidates on the Senate ticket of the Liberal National Party of Queensland shall
be as follows:
1. A sitting Senator whose term is expiring, who is a former Liberal and who offers for re-election;
2. A sitting Senator whose term is expiring, who is a former National and who offers for
re- election;
3. A sitting Senator whose term is expiring, who is a former Liberal and who offers for
re-election;
4. A sitting Senator whose term is expiring, who is a former Liberal and who offers for
re-election;
(b) Amongst such sitting Senators, the order shall be as follows:-
(i) Senator the Hon. George Brandis;
(ii) Senator Barnaby Joyce
(iii) Senator the Hon. Brett Mason;
(iv) Senator Russell Trood.
(c) This clause is subject to any subsequent written agreement to the contrary signed for and on
behalf of and with the authority of the Liberal National Party of Queensland, the Liberal Party of
Australia and the National Party of Australia.
W.12 In the event that there is a casual vacancy in the Senate, should any existing Senator or Senators seek
endorsement for that position then the only candidate(s) who will be accepted for that endorsement
will be that existing Senator or Senators.
W.13 If any of the sitting Senators are not available for election, then the order as determined in (b)(i) to (iv)
above shall move up to close off any non available Senator and any further preselected candidate will
be added to the bottom of this order.]

http://www.lnp.org.au/images/stories/PDFs/LNPConstitution080808.pdf

]]> By: danny http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616641 danny Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:11:53 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616641 Yes Steve, it's a pearler of a story. Anna must be wondering, does it get any better than this, will I go now on the strength of it? Not that she's got anything to worry about, and why waste 9 assured months of government now by not waiting till september, when things might not be so rosy at the other end of her next term? But maybe going to election when your opponents are at their weakest means you get most bums on parliamantary seats, and that's what's important. Looking at the proposed senators, I've gotta say, who? And why? These people are nobodies, a sad endictment on how intra-party reward scheming has hijacked the raison-d'etre of the upper house. I can see what PJK was on about with his "Unrepresentative swill" crack, but look what you get when you get rid of the upper house: Queensland. Yes Steve, it’s a pearler of a story. Anna must be wondering, does it get any better than this, will I go now on the strength of it? Not that she’s got anything to worry about, and why waste 9 assured months of government now by not waiting till september, when things might not be so rosy at the other end of her next term? But maybe going to election when your opponents are at their weakest means you get most bums on parliamantary seats, and that’s what’s important.
Looking at the proposed senators, I’ve gotta say, who? And why? These people are nobodies, a sad endictment on how intra-party reward scheming has hijacked the raison-d’etre of the upper house. I can see what PJK was on about with his “Unrepresentative swill” crack, but look what you get when you get rid of the upper house: Queensland.

]]> By: Paul Norton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616639 Paul Norton Fri, 23 Jan 2009 00:07:56 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616639 Steve, an interesting aspect of this issue is whether the Queensland Parliament would be in breach of s15 of the Commonwealth Constitution if it appointed a member of the LNP rather than a member of the Nationals to the Senate vacancy. It seems to me that the Labor Party could have a great deal of fun at the LNP's expense - and exact historical revenge for the appointment of Albert Field to the Senate in 1975 - by appointing a Nat to the vacancy on the pretext that s15 leaves it with no alternative. Steve, an interesting aspect of this issue is whether the Queensland Parliament would be in breach of s15 of the Commonwealth Constitution if it appointed a member of the LNP rather than a member of the Nationals to the Senate vacancy. It seems to me that the Labor Party could have a great deal of fun at the LNP’s expense – and exact historical revenge for the appointment of Albert Field to the Senate in 1975 – by appointing a Nat to the vacancy on the pretext that s15 leaves it with no alternative.

]]> By: steve http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616580 steve Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:48:28 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616580 Oh Dear,now we have the prospect of a serious split within the Liberal National Party as the Nationals try to steal a senate seat that has been promised to the Liberals under the merged party constitution. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24950563-5006786,00.html Oh Dear,now we have the prospect of a serious split within the Liberal National Party as the Nationals try to steal a senate seat that has been promised to the Liberals under the merged party constitution.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24950563-5006786,00.html

]]> By: steve http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616382 steve Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:32:28 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616382 I'm sure they would have been sitting out in a director's chair in the blazing hot sun developing the skin cancer prevention part of their Health Policy in time for the February election, Sam. I’m sure they would have been sitting out in a director’s chair in the blazing hot sun developing the skin cancer prevention part of their Health Policy in time for the February election, Sam.

]]> By: Sam the Dog http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/comment-page-1/#comment-616380 Sam the Dog Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:23:45 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/papering-over-the-cracks-in-c-m-credibility-with-populism/#comment-616380 Steve @ 24: They could just keep filling up the Borg Bus and driving it around. I saw it parked in an unpaved "car park" section around the side of the Logan Hyperdome the other day. There was no one within cooee, but I suppose they are coming off a low base of support in the suburb of Loganholme... Steve @ 24: They could just keep filling up the Borg Bus and driving it around. I saw it parked in an unpaved “car park” section around the side of the Logan Hyperdome the other day. There was no one within cooee, but I suppose they are coming off a low base of support in the suburb of Loganholme…

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