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		<title>By: Nickws</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/the-obama-inauguration-some-interesting-links/#comment-181663</link>
		<dc:creator>Nickws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’d say the Carter Doctrine which formally set US foreign policy to pre-emptive war to protect the supply of oil was probably close to such a golden mean&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Carter spoke of pre-emptive military attacks in response to the Iranian hostage crisis &amp; the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Really?

Does anyone believe that?</description>
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<p>Carter spoke of pre-emptive military attacks in response to the Iranian hostage crisis &amp; the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. Really?</p>
<p>Does anyone believe that?</p>
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		<title>By: Noble Liar</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/the-obama-inauguration-some-interesting-links/#comment-181662</link>
		<dc:creator>Noble Liar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark

I&#039;d say the Carter Doctrine which formally set US foreign policy to pre-emptive war to protect the supply of oil was probably close to such a golden mean.


&lt;i&gt;Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.&lt;/i&gt;

http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/speeches/su80jec.phtml



No subsequent president has thought otherwise.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say the Carter Doctrine which formally set US foreign policy to pre-emptive war to protect the supply of oil was probably close to such a golden mean.</p>
<p><i>Let our position be absolutely clear: An attempt by any outside force to gain control of the Persian Gulf region will be regarded as an assault on the vital interests of the United States of America, and such an assault will be repelled by any means necessary, including military force.</i></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/speeches/su80jec.phtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.org/documents/speeches/su80jec.phtml</a></p>
<p>No subsequent president has thought otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Noble Liar</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/the-obama-inauguration-some-interesting-links/#comment-181661</link>
		<dc:creator>Noble Liar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrien

Neocons are agnostic on the government&#039;s role in the domestic economy. From the mid 197080s, they decided (correctly) the intergenerational transfer of welfare dependency was very bad for national security, but would approve of the current massive injections of funds for the same reason. Remember, while the neocons were always anti-communist, they have never been particularly partisan when it comes to economics. They are not rabid ideological free marketeers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrien</p>
<p>Neocons are agnostic on the government&#8217;s role in the domestic economy. From the mid 197080s, they decided (correctly) the intergenerational transfer of welfare dependency was very bad for national security, but would approve of the current massive injections of funds for the same reason. Remember, while the neocons were always anti-communist, they have never been particularly partisan when it comes to economics. They are not rabid ideological free marketeers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/the-obama-inauguration-some-interesting-links/#comment-181660</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I think Jimmy Carter showed what happens when you get pinged as a pessimist in America. But surely there&#039;s a golden mean between despair and unrealistic assertion of will?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I think Jimmy Carter showed what happens when you get pinged as a pessimist in America. But surely there&#8217;s a golden mean between despair and unrealistic assertion of will?</p>
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		<title>By: Nickws</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/01/21/the-obama-inauguration-some-interesting-links/#comment-181659</link>
		<dc:creator>Nickws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But today we have involved ourselves in a colossal muddle, having blundered in the control of a delicate machine, the working of which we do not understand. The result is that our possibilities of wealth may run to waste for a time -- perhaps for a long time&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think it&#039;s clear that the &lt;em&gt;Salon&lt;/em&gt; writer isn&#039;t referencing JMK the policy wonk but rather JMK the down-to-earth philosophy bloke. Keynes&#039; is a lot like an educated version of Orwell that way--good commonsense Englishness expressed in prose.

I think BHO is merely translating this into midwest Americanese. Only he has to shear it of the obvious pessimism first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But today we have involved ourselves in a colossal muddle, having blundered in the control of a delicate machine, the working of which we do not understand. The result is that our possibilities of wealth may run to waste for a time &#8212; perhaps for a long time</p></blockquote>
<p>I think it&#8217;s clear that the <em>Salon</em> writer isn&#8217;t referencing JMK the policy wonk but rather JMK the down-to-earth philosophy bloke. Keynes&#8217; is a lot like an educated version of Orwell that way&#8211;good commonsense Englishness expressed in prose.</p>
<p>I think BHO is merely translating this into midwest Americanese. Only he has to shear it of the obvious pessimism first.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt;: Some good thoughts from I cite&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/i_cite/2009/01/desperate-love.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jodi&lt;/a&gt; on desperate love for Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Update</b>: Some good thoughts from I cite&#8217;s <a href="http://jdeanicite.typepad.com/i_cite/2009/01/desperate-love.html" rel="nofollow">Jodi</a> on desperate love for Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 09:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely an interesting link:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hotklix.com/?ref=content/351533&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama goes Bollywood&lt;/a&gt;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely an interesting link:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hotklix.com/?ref=content/351533" rel="nofollow">Obama goes Bollywood</a>!</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s stirring stuff. My favourite bit is this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works — whether it helps families find jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified. Where the answer is yes, we intend to move forward. Where the answer is no, programs will end&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Which seems to me to be the real question viz govt. After all people like Bush talked up the virtues of small govt but proceeded to build a (more) massive behometh.
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I just hope that a. He means it, and b. They won&#039;t fuck him over trying to do it.
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I also hope he is a Keynsian stricly in the sense that he &lt;i&gt;isn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; a slave to some defunct economist - including Keynes. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s stirring stuff. My favourite bit is this:</p>
<blockquote><p>The question we ask today is not whether our government is too big or too small, but whether it works — whether it helps families find jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified. Where the answer is yes, we intend to move forward. Where the answer is no, programs will end</p></blockquote>
<p>Which seems to me to be the real question viz govt. After all people like Bush talked up the virtues of small govt but proceeded to build a (more) massive behometh.<br />
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I just hope that a. He means it, and b. They won&#8217;t fuck him over trying to do it.<br />
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I also hope he is a Keynsian stricly in the sense that he <i>isn&#8217;t</i> a slave to some defunct economist &#8211; including Keynes. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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