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		<title>By: aidan</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/03/are-you-feeling-stimulated/#comment-172382</link>
		<dc:creator>aidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 02:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amby,

Not anymore, he was tossed out in the last election, or should I say out-campaigned by &lt;a href=&quot;http://joyburch.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Joy Burch&lt;/a&gt; (also ALP -- we have multi-member electorates).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amby,</p>
<p>Not anymore, he was tossed out in the last election, or should I say out-campaigned by <a href="http://joyburch.com/" rel="nofollow">Joy Burch</a> (also ALP &#8212; we have multi-member electorates).</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/03/are-you-feeling-stimulated/#comment-172381</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 01:22:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, aidan.

You actually have an elected representative by the name of Gentleman ... golly! And he&#039;s a Labor member !! Canberra really IS different, eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, aidan.</p>
<p>You actually have an elected representative by the name of Gentleman &#8230; golly! And he&#8217;s a Labor member !! Canberra really IS different, eh?</p>
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		<title>By: aidan</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/03/are-you-feeling-stimulated/#comment-172380</link>
		<dc:creator>aidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Poor question. You like solar PV, “but will they do it?”?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Huh? &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/b/db_32174/default.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;They are doing it where I live.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Poor question. You like solar PV, “but will they do it?”?</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Huh? <a href="http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/b/db_32174/default.asp" rel="nofollow">They are doing it where I live.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Merkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aidan: given that, at peak times, the spot price for grid electricity is actually far higher than what it costs to run a diesel generator, I&#039;d imagine that it could be a financial win/win situation for everyone.

I agree that $/CO2 doesn&#039;t give the whole picture, but that cuts both ways with renewables.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aidan: given that, at peak times, the spot price for grid electricity is actually far higher than what it costs to run a diesel generator, I&#8217;d imagine that it could be a financial win/win situation for everyone.</p>
<p>I agree that $/CO2 doesn&#8217;t give the whole picture, but that cuts both ways with renewables.</p>
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		<title>By: hrgh</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/03/are-you-feeling-stimulated/#comment-172378</link>
		<dc:creator>hrgh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But will they do it? &quot;

Poor question. You like solar PV, &quot;but will they do it?&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But will they do it? &#8221;</p>
<p>Poor question. You like solar PV, &#8220;but will they do it?&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/03/are-you-feeling-stimulated/#comment-172377</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grid-connected solar photovoltaics? incentives?

http://www.feedintariff.com.au/tariff-faq.php

There&#039;s a petition there too. Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grid-connected solar photovoltaics? incentives?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.feedintariff.com.au/tariff-faq.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.feedintariff.com.au/tariff-faq.php</a></p>
<p>There&#8217;s a petition there too. Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: aidan</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/03/are-you-feeling-stimulated/#comment-172376</link>
		<dc:creator>aidan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;This is not a new idea, but as I understand it there are a lot of such generators which aren’t set up to do a grid feed, and could do so at not a huge amount of extra cost.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But will they do it? It&#039;s not like these sorts of brown-out issues haven&#039;t happened before. The PV panels &lt;em&gt;by design&lt;/em&gt; produce peak power when it is most required**. Seems like a better engineered design to me.

I guess I just wanted to point out that the simple $/kg of C02 number might not tell the whole story with PVs. I wonder how much the power supply companies would be prepared to pay for 50MW of peak power capacity when they need it. Not only that, but the fact that they don&#039;t then need to build more transmission infrastructure to carry it from the entirely parrot friendly wind farm.

** Actually they probably don&#039;t. They are fairly sensitive to temperature and will output less electricity the hotter they get, but maybe only 10-20% less ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>This is not a new idea, but as I understand it there are a lot of such generators which aren’t set up to do a grid feed, and could do so at not a huge amount of extra cost.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>But will they do it? It&#8217;s not like these sorts of brown-out issues haven&#8217;t happened before. The PV panels <em>by design</em> produce peak power when it is most required**. Seems like a better engineered design to me.</p>
<p>I guess I just wanted to point out that the simple $/kg of C02 number might not tell the whole story with PVs. I wonder how much the power supply companies would be prepared to pay for 50MW of peak power capacity when they need it. Not only that, but the fact that they don&#8217;t then need to build more transmission infrastructure to carry it from the entirely parrot friendly wind farm.</p>
<p>** Actually they probably don&#8217;t. They are fairly sensitive to temperature and will output less electricity the hotter they get, but maybe only 10-20% less &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 04:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liam @ 104 - if I heard correctly on the radio today apparently people have until June 2009 to submit their tax returns in order to qualify for this bonus - but they obviously will end up getting it later than everyone else.

Laura @ 102 - apparently there is an older some scheme for landlords as well, though probably not as generous. And I doubt the cost and hassle of giving notice to one tenant, installing the insulation, leaving it unrented for long enough to demonstrate that its owner occupied and then finding another tenant would be worth it. Especially when landlords eventually can get a bit of a deduction for the cost of insulation anyway.

Robert @ 105 - and its probably even worth paying companies who are willing, to reduce their usage during peak times when full generation capacity gets reached. Cheaper than increasing peak load capacity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liam @ 104 &#8211; if I heard correctly on the radio today apparently people have until June 2009 to submit their tax returns in order to qualify for this bonus &#8211; but they obviously will end up getting it later than everyone else.</p>
<p>Laura @ 102 &#8211; apparently there is an older some scheme for landlords as well, though probably not as generous. And I doubt the cost and hassle of giving notice to one tenant, installing the insulation, leaving it unrented for long enough to demonstrate that its owner occupied and then finding another tenant would be worth it. Especially when landlords eventually can get a bit of a deduction for the cost of insulation anyway.</p>
<p>Robert @ 105 &#8211; and its probably even worth paying companies who are willing, to reduce their usage during peak times when full generation capacity gets reached. Cheaper than increasing peak load capacity.</p>
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		<title>By: yeti</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/03/are-you-feeling-stimulated/#comment-172374</link>
		<dc:creator>yeti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hmm... the good old missing group certificate. good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm&#8230; the good old missing group certificate. good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: yeti</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/03/are-you-feeling-stimulated/#comment-172373</link>
		<dc:creator>yeti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, I thought the training and learning bonus was only for post-grads, but it turns out that undergrads get it too. This is good timing, because I know that centrelink is planning to cut me adrift in june for having studied too long (they count years when you weren&#039;t receiving centrelink as going towards your study &#039;limit&#039;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, I thought the training and learning bonus was only for post-grads, but it turns out that undergrads get it too. This is good timing, because I know that centrelink is planning to cut me adrift in june for having studied too long (they count years when you weren&#8217;t receiving centrelink as going towards your study &#8216;limit&#8217;).</p>
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