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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-629359</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 21:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bird of Paradox,
Have it on reliable info that the first lecture in first year law is on how to bill clients. Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bird of Paradox,<br />
Have it on reliable info that the first lecture in first year law is on how to bill clients. Seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Bird of paradox</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-629165</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird of paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lord. The more I read of this guy&#039;s profile, the more I worry. He&#039;s got quotes by Joh Bjelke-Petersen, Hitler and the Bible. Got a link to his blog too, where he discusses what he wears to lectures (hint: it&#039;s a couple of levels above what I&#039;ll be wearing to graduate next month). Damn law students... why can&#039;t they be more like the one I used to live with in the unfashionable outer suburbs? He was OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord. The more I read of this guy&#8217;s profile, the more I worry. He&#8217;s got quotes by Joh Bjelke-Petersen, Hitler and the Bible. Got a link to his blog too, where he discusses what he wears to lectures (hint: it&#8217;s a couple of levels above what I&#8217;ll be wearing to graduate next month). Damn law students&#8230; why can&#8217;t they be more like the one I used to live with in the unfashionable outer suburbs? He was OK.</p>
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		<title>By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-629146</link>
		<dc:creator>Down and Out of Sài Gòn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul: when I wrote &quot;Anyone could take a screenshot and send it on&quot;, I wasn&#039;t hinting that people should. But then I don&#039;t know what should be done. 

Perhaps letting the Law faculty know would be a good start. I would prefer that one of the lecturers draws him aside and have &quot;words&quot; about his stupidity &lt;i&gt;and the possible consequences thereof&lt;/i&gt;. Don&#039;t kick him out of the University of Queensland. Just give him a verbal bollocking that he remembers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul: when I wrote &#8220;Anyone could take a screenshot and send it on&#8221;, I wasn&#8217;t hinting that people should. But then I don&#8217;t know what should be done. </p>
<p>Perhaps letting the Law faculty know would be a good start. I would prefer that one of the lecturers draws him aside and have &#8220;words&#8221; about his stupidity <i>and the possible consequences thereof</i>. Don&#8217;t kick him out of the University of Queensland. Just give him a verbal bollocking that he remembers.</p>
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		<title>By: Bird of paradox</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-629141</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird of paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 13:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UQ (another nice little sandstone university), graduates in 2012, which I guess makes him a second year, if that&#039;s a five year course. Also private schooled. There&#039;s a whole industry of future Liberal politicians out there...

I&#039;m aware I&#039;ve got identifying information on my Facebook profile, and I&#039;m willing to stand by everything I say on there; if I&#039;m not, I probably don&#039;t say it. I wonder if these guys have considered that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UQ (another nice little sandstone university), graduates in 2012, which I guess makes him a second year, if that&#8217;s a five year course. Also private schooled. There&#8217;s a whole industry of future Liberal politicians out there&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m aware I&#8217;ve got identifying information on my Facebook profile, and I&#8217;m willing to stand by everything I say on there; if I&#8217;m not, I probably don&#8217;t say it. I wonder if these guys have considered that?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-629121</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a good idea. Maybe somebody with the technological expertise could send it to the Law faculty he studies at? (What is his uni? I might e-mail it off to them  myself. Maybe somebody could just post their e-mail address?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a good idea. Maybe somebody with the technological expertise could send it to the Law faculty he studies at? (What is his uni? I might e-mail it off to them  myself. Maybe somebody could just post their e-mail address?</p>
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		<title>By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-629110</link>
		<dc:creator>Down and Out of Sài Gòn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 12:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the guy behind the Gillard comment is doing Arts/Law. Not exactly a smart move for his future legal career if the comment gets widely distributed. It would have been better if Facebook had acted on complaints (from me, among others) and yanked the comment. Anyone could take a screenshot and send it on. Anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the guy behind the Gillard comment is doing Arts/Law. Not exactly a smart move for his future legal career if the comment gets widely distributed. It would have been better if Facebook had acted on complaints (from me, among others) and yanked the comment. Anyone could take a screenshot and send it on. Anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, that&#039;s Ian Mcfarlane, Member for Groom you&#039;re thinking of. Ian Macdonald is a rather undistinguished Liberal Senator from North Queensland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, that&#8217;s Ian Mcfarlane, Member for Groom you&#8217;re thinking of. Ian Macdonald is a rather undistinguished Liberal Senator from North Queensland.</p>
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		<title>By: Bird of paradox</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-628969</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird of paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gillard comment is still there. And if Ian Macdonald is who I think he is (MP from Toowoomba with a voice like a two-way radio?), he probably doesn&#039;t know what the internet is.

Also, one of the guys in that group pulled out ye olde &#039;Krudd&#039; epithet. Searchable profile -&gt; what a surprise, it&#039;s a law student from UWA. As a sometime maths student from a much less pretty part of that uni and a longer commute, I&#039;d like to re-insert his western suburbs silver spoon somewhere else. Another one reckons the Gov Gen oughta sack the PM before our economy goes the way of Zimbabwe. Fools.

As for the original group, it&#039;s now up to 49,000 members. Looks like Turnbull&#039;s lost the &#039;Generation Y&#039; vote...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gillard comment is still there. And if Ian Macdonald is who I think he is (MP from Toowoomba with a voice like a two-way radio?), he probably doesn&#8217;t know what the internet is.</p>
<p>Also, one of the guys in that group pulled out ye olde &#8216;Krudd&#8217; epithet. Searchable profile -&gt; what a surprise, it&#8217;s a law student from UWA. As a sometime maths student from a much less pretty part of that uni and a longer commute, I&#8217;d like to re-insert his western suburbs silver spoon somewhere else. Another one reckons the Gov Gen oughta sack the PM before our economy goes the way of Zimbabwe. Fools.</p>
<p>As for the original group, it&#8217;s now up to 49,000 members. Looks like Turnbull&#8217;s lost the &#8216;Generation Y&#8217; vote&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vee</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-628916</link>
		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 06:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot more small startup opposing groups now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot more small startup opposing groups now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-628888</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Macdonald, of course, may well not be driving the controls of his own Facebook account - could be a juvenile staffer...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Macdonald, of course, may well not be driving the controls of his own Facebook account &#8211; could be a juvenile staffer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: feral sparrowhawk</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-628885</link>
		<dc:creator>feral sparrowhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice Senator Ian Macdonald has joined the &quot;financial child abuse&quot; group. He may regret it, particularly since the comment about Gillard was still up when he did. Labor can have a ball with that.

Also notice that a random sample of the pro-package group shows 70% women. The anti groups - not just the child abuse one but a more restrained one, have the typical Liberal group membership of about 85% male.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice Senator Ian Macdonald has joined the &#8220;financial child abuse&#8221; group. He may regret it, particularly since the comment about Gillard was still up when he did. Labor can have a ball with that.</p>
<p>Also notice that a random sample of the pro-package group shows 70% women. The anti groups &#8211; not just the child abuse one but a more restrained one, have the typical Liberal group membership of about 85% male.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-628847</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt;: 465333 members as of 1.30pm Saturday Brisbane time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Update</b>: 465333 members as of 1.30pm Saturday Brisbane time.</p>
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		<title>By: Polyquats</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-628308</link>
		<dc:creator>Polyquats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That offensive comment is still up at the offensive counter-site. How long does it take Facebook to deal with this stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That offensive comment is still up at the offensive counter-site. How long does it take Facebook to deal with this stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-628242</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>over 30.000. That&#039;s more than the population of Armidale! (c. 20,000 without students.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>over 30.000. That&#8217;s more than the population of Armidale! (c. 20,000 without students.)</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-628239</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 05:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anybody told Malcolm?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anybody told Malcolm?</p>
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		<title>By: Bird of paradox</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-628166</link>
		<dc:creator>Bird of paradox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 04:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over 30,000 members now. I wonder when it&#039;ll stop growing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over 30,000 members now. I wonder when it&#8217;ll stop growing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-628087</link>
		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 02:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal favourite is this one:

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=48993165185&amp;ref=nf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal favourite is this one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=48993165185&amp;ref=nf" rel="nofollow">http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=48993165185&amp;ref=nf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/05/stimulus-package-facebook-activism/comment-page-2/#comment-627941</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 23:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HECS?  hex ??

is witchcraft involved, Huggy?

:-)

Jarrah: as I understand it, a &quot;luvvie&quot; is supposedly a person who doesn&#039;t think clearly, and bases all their attitudes on a kind of &quot;group hug&quot;-must-be-in-with-the-cool-crowd stance. First time I heard it, the word was applied to a mob of theatrical enthusiasts, who would LOVE anything they deemed &quot;artistic&quot;  regardless of quality [as judged by others]. I think Sgr Strocchi enjoys labelling any persons he deems to be &quot;leftie&quot; as &quot;luvvies&quot;. Apolgies for the vagueness, and I stand to be corrected, but the concept and terminology is probably at its heart nebulous, amorphous, and ineffectual. It can also, perhaps not accidentally, be associated with meandering and interminable prose, which [in this instance only] I will now - regretfully - draw to a close.

Related anecdote about Alan Greenspan: &quot; When he was being questioned by somebody in the Senate Committee, one of the questioners said, “oh so what you’re saying is……” and gave his interpretation of what had happened and Alan said something like, “Well if you think you’ve understood what I was saying, I obviously didn’t explain myself properly.” &quot; [BBC Radio 4 retrospective on Greenspan]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HECS?  hex ??</p>
<p>is witchcraft involved, Huggy?<br />
 <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jarrah: as I understand it, a &#8220;luvvie&#8221; is supposedly a person who doesn&#8217;t think clearly, and bases all their attitudes on a kind of &#8220;group hug&#8221;-must-be-in-with-the-cool-crowd stance. First time I heard it, the word was applied to a mob of theatrical enthusiasts, who would LOVE anything they deemed &#8220;artistic&#8221;  regardless of quality [as judged by others]. I think Sgr Strocchi enjoys labelling any persons he deems to be &#8220;leftie&#8221; as &#8220;luvvies&#8221;. Apolgies for the vagueness, and I stand to be corrected, but the concept and terminology is probably at its heart nebulous, amorphous, and ineffectual. It can also, perhaps not accidentally, be associated with meandering and interminable prose, which [in this instance only] I will now &#8211; regretfully &#8211; draw to a close.</p>
<p>Related anecdote about Alan Greenspan: &#8221; When he was being questioned by somebody in the Senate Committee, one of the questioners said, “oh so what you’re saying is……” and gave his interpretation of what had happened and Alan said something like, “Well if you think you’ve understood what I was saying, I obviously didn’t explain myself properly.” &#8221; [BBC Radio 4 retrospective on Greenspan]</p>
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		<title>By: Huggybunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huggybunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark @49
Hex debts. Actually you are going to pay in the future for something that Costello and a whole  lot of fellow memebers of the HR Nicholls society had us the taxpayer pay for - right?
Here is the plan:
1. All the students with Hex debts and those who have begun paying them off tear up the contracts in public; whatever it takes to stop payments.
2. The Costello government then has no option but to build a vast complex of detention centres, thus providing a massive one off boost to the economy.
3. Employment surges and immigration goes up as we bring in Guatanamo Bay guards and Abu Grhaib veterans to oversee the treatment of the pointy heads.
4. In the middle of each detention centre we build one of your massive nuclear reactors.
5. These cause such pervasive mutations in the pointy heads that they abandon their quest for $950:00 and turn into model citizens and promise to repay their hex debts after all.
That should work.
Huggy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark @49<br />
Hex debts. Actually you are going to pay in the future for something that Costello and a whole  lot of fellow memebers of the HR Nicholls society had us the taxpayer pay for &#8211; right?<br />
Here is the plan:<br />
1. All the students with Hex debts and those who have begun paying them off tear up the contracts in public; whatever it takes to stop payments.<br />
2. The Costello government then has no option but to build a vast complex of detention centres, thus providing a massive one off boost to the economy.<br />
3. Employment surges and immigration goes up as we bring in Guatanamo Bay guards and Abu Grhaib veterans to oversee the treatment of the pointy heads.<br />
4. In the middle of each detention centre we build one of your massive nuclear reactors.<br />
5. These cause such pervasive mutations in the pointy heads that they abandon their quest for $950:00 and turn into model citizens and promise to repay their hex debts after all.<br />
That should work.<br />
Huggy</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 17:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>!! 23000 members now</description>
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