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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/02/20/imminent-queensland-election-now-more-imminent/comment-page-1/#comment-640113</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 03:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(7 cont) ...(att)empting to make a fist of it in response. It used to be quite a piece of theatre with 3 out of the 4 corners of the intersection occupied by different parties. 
But if Mark is right about there going to be a general retreat to a brutal &quot;first past the post&quot; election, the non-encumbents may as well save their money here and just turn up on the day, declare candidates for form&#039;s sake. Or just not stand.  Queensland, where parliamantary democracy died, gamed to extinction by the partisan impulse, driven by individual areer ambitions.

I see Queensland &quot; has been stripped of it&#039;s AAA rating&quot; by S&amp;P. It&#039;s been 3 months since that well-known basket case NSW was crowing about managing to keep its S&amp;P AAA rating &quot;to preserve the state&#039;s triple A credit rating and avoid paying up to $100 million in extra interest payments per year&quot;, and a lot can happen in 3 months. It just wouldn&#039;t do for Annaland to be thought a worse bet than NSW by someone that matters. I see both Mirvac and Stockland, very very big presences in South Brisbane, have both been put on negative credit watch. Jeez, if they weren&#039;t able to continue kicking in to Democracy, Peel Street style, there&#039;d be hell to pay, and if you couldn&#039;t pay, go in to debt for. 
I note with satisfaction that the laws of pre-selection karma are holding up: Anne Warner, who bequethed South Brisbane to Anna, has had her daughter installed as the Labor&#039;s Indooripilly candidate. Jim Fouras will be amused, Ronan Lee being a bit of a protege of his, according to his maiden speech, and it being Ms Warner, Snr, who did Fouras out of his South Brisbane seat. 
South Brisbane, for anyone who doesn&#039;t know the semi-ancient history of Qld Labor Party pre-selection shenanigans, was the site of infamous Shepherdon-enquiry-producing rort where (largish pdf alert)&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/publications.nsf/0/C45548600F230726CA256ECF00076D80/$File/05-01.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;In the 1986 ALP plebiscite for the State electorate of South Brisbane [between Jim Fouras and Anne Warner], false enrolment forms had been submitted n the names of Mike Kaiser and Paul Lucas, who both became Members of State Parliament&quot; &lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;/a&gt; Well, I see the irony across the ages.
I&#039;ve seen Kaiser&#039;s name mentioned as being lined up for next premier gig: you take a bullet for the party, you get rewarded, makes sense to me. Everything is going to the Peel Street Plan plan, all is right with the world. Damned those rating agencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(7 cont) &#8230;(att)empting to make a fist of it in response. It used to be quite a piece of theatre with 3 out of the 4 corners of the intersection occupied by different parties.<br />
But if Mark is right about there going to be a general retreat to a brutal &#8220;first past the post&#8221; election, the non-encumbents may as well save their money here and just turn up on the day, declare candidates for form&#8217;s sake. Or just not stand.  Queensland, where parliamantary democracy died, gamed to extinction by the partisan impulse, driven by individual areer ambitions.</p>
<p>I see Queensland &#8221; has been stripped of it&#8217;s AAA rating&#8221; by S&amp;P. It&#8217;s been 3 months since that well-known basket case NSW was crowing about managing to keep its S&amp;P AAA rating &#8220;to preserve the state&#8217;s triple A credit rating and avoid paying up to $100 million in extra interest payments per year&#8221;, and a lot can happen in 3 months. It just wouldn&#8217;t do for Annaland to be thought a worse bet than NSW by someone that matters. I see both Mirvac and Stockland, very very big presences in South Brisbane, have both been put on negative credit watch. Jeez, if they weren&#8217;t able to continue kicking in to Democracy, Peel Street style, there&#8217;d be hell to pay, and if you couldn&#8217;t pay, go in to debt for.<br />
I note with satisfaction that the laws of pre-selection karma are holding up: Anne Warner, who bequethed South Brisbane to Anna, has had her daughter installed as the Labor&#8217;s Indooripilly candidate. Jim Fouras will be amused, Ronan Lee being a bit of a protege of his, according to his maiden speech, and it being Ms Warner, Snr, who did Fouras out of his South Brisbane seat.<br />
South Brisbane, for anyone who doesn&#8217;t know the semi-ancient history of Qld Labor Party pre-selection shenanigans, was the site of infamous Shepherdon-enquiry-producing rort where (largish pdf alert)<a href="http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/publications.nsf/0/C45548600F230726CA256ECF00076D80/$File/05-01.pdf" rel="nofollow"><br />
<blockquote>&#8220;In the 1986 ALP plebiscite for the State electorate of South Brisbane [between Jim Fouras and Anne Warner], false enrolment forms had been submitted n the names of Mike Kaiser and Paul Lucas, who both became Members of State Parliament&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p> </a> Well, I see the irony across the ages.<br />
I&#8217;ve seen Kaiser&#8217;s name mentioned as being lined up for next premier gig: you take a bullet for the party, you get rewarded, makes sense to me. Everything is going to the Peel Street Plan plan, all is right with the world. Damned those rating agencies.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Grace Grace had campaigners at the Albion station every morning this week. You wouldn’t have people campaigning so actively in what is a pretty safe Labor seat -&quot; I&#039;m not sure of the technical aspects of the metrics involved in &quot;so&quot; actively and &quot;pretty&quot; safe, but &quot;even&quot; in Anna&#039;s seat campaigner workers have, as noted last weekend, been personning the glossybrochureware card table on the corner of Boundary and Vulture. 
Not that that&#039;s remarkable, it&#039;s just housekeeping. What&#039;s more remarkable is that neither of the other candidates are even att</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Grace Grace had campaigners at the Albion station every morning this week. You wouldn’t have people campaigning so actively in what is a pretty safe Labor seat -&#8221; I&#8217;m not sure of the technical aspects of the metrics involved in &#8220;so&#8221; actively and &#8220;pretty&#8221; safe, but &#8220;even&#8221; in Anna&#8217;s seat campaigner workers have, as noted last weekend, been personning the glossybrochureware card table on the corner of Boundary and Vulture.<br />
Not that that&#8217;s remarkable, it&#8217;s just housekeeping. What&#8217;s more remarkable is that neither of the other candidates are even att</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 01:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, Lefty E, which is why I made a case to them that they should have more locally sourced coverage of matters Quinceland!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, Lefty E, which is why I made a case to them that they should have more locally sourced coverage of matters Quinceland!</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, that wasn&#039;t clear to me Mark, and if you&#039;re hearing noises of an informed nature - on Quinceland turf - then I&#039;m substantially more convinced of the case. I know your sources will be sound.

Frankly &quot;Crikey&quot;, for all the value you get - its a bit Canberra/ Sydney /Melb triangle; for the most part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, that wasn&#8217;t clear to me Mark, and if you&#8217;re hearing noises of an informed nature &#8211; on Quinceland turf &#8211; then I&#8217;m substantially more convinced of the case. I know your sources will be sound.</p>
<p>Frankly &#8220;Crikey&#8221;, for all the value you get &#8211; its a bit Canberra/ Sydney /Melb triangle; for the most part.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It wont shock me if Crikey pundits are wrong here, and Bligh goes close as possible to term.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lefty E - I&#039;m not sure if it&#039;s clear to you that I&#039;m the author of this piece and therefore the &quot;Crikey pundit(s)&quot; in question.

Let me just point out that I&#039;m not proceeding on abstract guesswork - I&#039;m reporting what I&#039;ve been told from people in the Labor campaign. And on the ground, for instance - I&#039;d note that Grace Grace had campaigners at the Albion station every morning this week. You wouldn&#039;t have people campaigning so actively in what is a pretty safe Labor seat - Brisbane Central - on the vague possibility of an election, or as some sort of profile building exercise for later in the year. I can tell you as an absolute fact regional and key seat campaigns weren&#039;t just mobilised for imminent action at the beginning of this week, they jumped the gun before the trigger was pulled - deliberately.

As I say, there&#039;s some slight possibility that the election won&#039;t be called next week, but it&#039;s not a matter of reading the omens in the sky. It&#039;s what I&#039;m told by people in the campaign is actually happening, and the reasons why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It wont shock me if Crikey pundits are wrong here, and Bligh goes close as possible to term.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lefty E &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure if it&#8217;s clear to you that I&#8217;m the author of this piece and therefore the &#8220;Crikey pundit(s)&#8221; in question.</p>
<p>Let me just point out that I&#8217;m not proceeding on abstract guesswork &#8211; I&#8217;m reporting what I&#8217;ve been told from people in the Labor campaign. And on the ground, for instance &#8211; I&#8217;d note that Grace Grace had campaigners at the Albion station every morning this week. You wouldn&#8217;t have people campaigning so actively in what is a pretty safe Labor seat &#8211; Brisbane Central &#8211; on the vague possibility of an election, or as some sort of profile building exercise for later in the year. I can tell you as an absolute fact regional and key seat campaigns weren&#8217;t just mobilised for imminent action at the beginning of this week, they jumped the gun before the trigger was pulled &#8211; deliberately.</p>
<p>As I say, there&#8217;s some slight possibility that the election won&#8217;t be called next week, but it&#8217;s not a matter of reading the omens in the sky. It&#8217;s what I&#8217;m told by people in the campaign is actually happening, and the reasons why.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 07:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t matter when they go they can&#039;t rewind the environmental damage they have caused due to their fast tracking of developments and they can&#039;t rewind the consequences that will come because of it. The moment they were purchased by developers is the day they deserved to be removed from government. And no, I don&#039;t think the &#039;other mob&#039; are any worse or better, they just aren&#039;t they. 

Key: &#039;they&#039; = QLD labor party and &#039;other mob&#039; = LNP (or Nationals if you are &#039;they&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t matter when they go they can&#8217;t rewind the environmental damage they have caused due to their fast tracking of developments and they can&#8217;t rewind the consequences that will come because of it. The moment they were purchased by developers is the day they deserved to be removed from government. And no, I don&#8217;t think the &#8216;other mob&#8217; are any worse or better, they just aren&#8217;t they. </p>
<p>Key: &#8216;they&#8217; = QLD labor party and &#8216;other mob&#8217; = LNP (or Nationals if you are &#8216;they&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: wpd</title>
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		<dc:creator>wpd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Budget cupboard is bare but the punters will be rolling in cash beginning mid-March courtesy of the stimulus package.  While going early certainly has a significant downside, going full-term might be the greater risk by far.

While Barnaby is a goose, he is popular with the punters and therefore I don&#039;t think he will feature in the ALP campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Budget cupboard is bare but the punters will be rolling in cash beginning mid-March courtesy of the stimulus package.  While going early certainly has a significant downside, going full-term might be the greater risk by far.</p>
<p>While Barnaby is a goose, he is popular with the punters and therefore I don&#8217;t think he will feature in the ALP campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 05:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Post WA and NT, I wouldnt personally give Borg the ammo of &#039;going early&#039; - since he&#039;s got practically no other shots in the locker. It wont shock me if Crikey pundits are wrong here, and Bligh goes close as possible to term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post WA and NT, I wouldnt personally give Borg the ammo of &#8216;going early&#8217; &#8211; since he&#8217;s got practically no other shots in the locker. It wont shock me if Crikey pundits are wrong here, and Bligh goes close as possible to term.</p>
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