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35 responses to “I quit Twitter today II”

  1. Jarrah

    I never saw the point of Twitter. Facebook status updates for friends and family, sure. They fill a valuable niche – giving you small, semi-random connections with people who you see infrequently, who you wouldn’t call to catch up or meet IRL very often, yet you are mildly curious about.

    But twittering to all and sundry about the minutiae of one’s life? Yawn.

    PS Creative Economy should pick a new metaphor. Pokemon is no fad. From Wikipedia:

    Pokémon has since become the second most successful and lucrative video game-based media franchise in the world, behind only Nintendo’s own Mario series.[1] Pokémon properties have since been merchandised into anime, manga, trading cards, toys, books, and other media. The franchise celebrated its tenth anniversary on February 27, 2006, and as of 23 April 2008 (2008 -04-23)[update], cumulative sales of the video games (including home console versions, such as the “Pikachu” Nintendo 64) have reached more than 186 million copies.

  2. Lefty E

    I honestly have no idea what Twitter is or does – and don’t really care either. My webmunication needs are being met.

    Incidentally, how BS is Dreamweaver? After blogging the easy way, this new site I have to maintain for professional reasons is driving me up the wall. Its positively byzantine.

  3. wbb

    LE – you don’t have to maintain the proper functioning of the office printer or phone system – but if you did you might struggle with that too. The trick of software sellers is to pretend that we can use their products without any knowledge or experience.

    Just farm out the role to someone else is my advice.

  4. Lefty E

    “Just farm out the role to someone else is my advice.”

    I heard that, Wbb. Who needs it.

  5. professor rat

    If you see Twitter as part of a trend to cross blogging with Internet chat relay
    ( IRC) then it could have a future. Some young anarch’s I know have just started an encrypted chat site that is said to be quite popular. Possibly the youth look at trad blogging the way we look at the military-entertainment complex. Also Twitter seems the increasingly preferred platform for breaking news such as fires and plane wrecks. I’m not micro-blogging there yet but am maintaining an account in the hope that it will can spam and proffer encryption at some stage – that it will evolve in other words. Vanity is not the worst thing in the world is it? Ego is not a dirty word to me.

  6. patrickg

    Kim, I reckon you should maybe actually try using twitter before bagging it out – this is even worse than Phil! (or you know, just say you don’t know anything about it and not bag it out)

    You haven’t even used the thing and profess your disinterest, but then presume to tell us what it’s like and what it’s used for. Come now, that’s a bit rich, and furthermore what do you care if other people get their rocks off on it? Can we now expect a slew of posts explaining why you don’t use MySpace, Google API’s, certain facebooks apps, Beebo and any other web 2.0 application that [doesn't] take your fancy?

    FYI, as a representative of both old and new media (as if there is a divide in most cases, beyond the product itself), I can tell you that old media types were amongst the very first on Twitter.

    But then again, maybe if you had used it or researched it all, you would know this.

    Btw that NYT article is a pile of steaming shit. Wtf does a rat on cocaine and mortgage securities have to do with Twitter?? The actions are nowhere near the same; one is consuming something, one is selling something and the other is typing 140 characters for free.

    The internet has not turned journalism into anything, except perhaps to level the playing field somewhat). Newsletters and updates are not journalism – but yes they are part of the trade. It’s called networking, tips, relationships.

    But this is all by-the-by: Do you know how many twitterers are social media experts, and how many are plumbers etc.? I didn’t think so. You read a bad op-ed, took it for gospel, echoed its main points without any of your own research and declined to actually get some primary evidence yourself…

    Sounds like you could be the one cut out for a career in ‘old media’ Kim. ;)

  7. Kim

    patrickg, I just get a bit sick of the boosterism about every new shiny thing that comes along. I don’t deny lots of folks might find Twitter useful, and it can be used in a lot of contexts outside media ones. But inevitably that’s the one meejah types talk about. I’d be much more interested in people discussing its use in everyday contexts outside their industry – whether that industry is old media or new media “evangelism”. The broader point is how dumb and stereotyped so many of the discourses about social media are, and the elision of particular interests and practices with the public interest and how people outside a small group actually use these technologies.

  8. Dave from Albury

    As an avid Twitter user, I think you’ve missed the point. The beauty of Twitter is that you decide who you follow, there’s no spam and if you find someone’s tweets inane, you simply stop following them.

    I follow people from a variety of fields so in my Twitter feed are a variety of links to information that I find interesting, but would never have the time to search out.

    For a different perspective I recommend you read this post by Rands.

  9. Macondo

    For heavensake, the name says it all: TWIT-ter.

  10. patrickg

    Yeah but Kim, the thrust of your post is that Twitter is shit and only social/media ‘phonies’ use it – you reiterated the shithouse NYT talking points rather than refuting them.

    A quick scan of the smh shows the following articles about Twitter, none of which demonstrate the circle-jerk qualities you seem so convinced dominate the medium.

    You didn’t link to any examples of the bad writing you profess the post to be about – frankly I doubt you looked for any. The idea of Twitter being shit was more seductive to you than any other alternative – it fitted your presumption so you didn’t bother to check.

    This said, there certainly are posts written about Twitter by journalists, by PR, and by – yes – social media experts (and you know, some are really experts). Their perspective is for the industry because that’s who their readership is. Writing for a general readership they provide a different perspective (see links above).

    I agree with you that a lot of writing about social media is hype and hysteria, but come on, it’s new, what do you expect. I’m sure people have – and still do – accuse you of being equally starry-eyed about blogging. It doesn’t mean they’re right.

    Horses for courses man; I don’t see the need to pass judgement on every web trend with a kind of Madonna/Whore dichotomy – “This will enable the masses and free us all!”, “This is a false consciousness that will only shackle us to banality!”. Can’t a web 2.0 thing be both?

  11. patrickg

    Hello mods, too much linky, comment stuck in moderation, thanks!

  12. Laurel Papworth

    Aren’t blogs are about writers presenting a finished article to readers who are invited to comment – but not change – that content? Twitter is a completely different communication, not least that it is real time (walk away, and the conversation has moved on) and 2-way. When was the last time a reader of your blog wrote an article for you? One to many blogs, Twitter few to few.

    Here’s a list of 100 Australian journalists on Twitter with a few editors and hasbeens thrown in :) So traditional watch social and social watch traditional. We should make them kiss and make up. They’d never part then.

    One interesting note is that Twitter on mobile could eventually render the web obsolete. One guy, twittering from a plane that crashed in Amsterdam a few days ago said “I’ve just been searching the ‘net for news of our plane, but can’t find anything”. Though I’m not sure how he could get anymore breaking news than being in the plane himself. Psychic hotlines perhaps? :)

  13. patrickg

    Stuck in moderation, help!

  14. Mark

    Aren’t blogs are about writers presenting a finished article to readers who are invited to comment – but not change – that content? Twitter is a completely different communication, not least that it is real time (walk away, and the conversation has moved on) and 2-way. When was the last time a reader of your blog wrote an article for you?

    I don’t think that’s what blogs are about, Laurel, at least not the ones I like. For me, they’re much more about being prepared to be tentative, to respond, to update, and reply. The posts themselves can be fairly dynamic as well as the comments threads.

    And we frequently feature guest posts by readers and commenters.

  15. Mark

    patrickg – I released your comment… maybe try refreshing your browser?

  16. patrickg

    Thanks for setting me free Mark! I really must control my desire for linking, lol.

  17. Mark

    All good things in moderation, patrickg! :)

  18. dr faustus

    I’m a big fan of twitter – it scratches a particular itch for me, but I agree that there is a lot of ‘social media expert’ wankery on it. If you look at the profiles of the most popular twitterers, they’re all apparently social media experts, gadget freaks, and so on (on the other hand, it’s wonderfully democratic to have a phenomenon that so many people can be experts at, without all that time-consuming research and study).

    I think Fake Stephen Conry summed it up nicely earlier today:

    “Top 100 Twitterer/Social Media Expert” lists will be categorized by the filter as Offensive Scenes of Explicit Masturbation.

    Blogging in certain circles quickly degenerates into a self-referential circule jerk. It just seems to happen faster on twitter.

    Again, however, the beauty of the system is that it’s extremely easy to avoid all that if you’re a little selective in who you add as a friend.

  19. Alex White

    I can’t see the reason to differentiate Twitter and Facebook status updates – thankfully there’s an app that merges the two. Wordpress Lifestream is pretty cool too, for bringing them all into one place.

  20. The Amazing Kim

    But twittering to all and sundry about the minutiae of one’s life? Yawn.

    Sure, but it depends on what you put in as to what you get out. I write puns and witticisms. Most of the people I follow also write jokes. My twitter experience is of logging in for a few minutes to get my daily comedy fix from a range of people that would otherwise keep their humour to themselves, or on separate blogs. I get followed by people who want to read one-liners; I follow people who write what I like to read, and everyone is happy.

    I imagine this is also the case for people who like writing about their breakfast, such as my favourite, @mytoaster.

    By the way, has anyone else noticed that there are one hell of a lot of cats (or, owners pretending to be their cats) posting on twitter?

  21. Fine
  22. suz
  23. Paul Burns

    Of course whippets are that smart! Seriously. I owned one for five years but it was stolen outside the Club Hotel in Armidale, before we had the by-pass. Smart dogs. Nevertheless, chihuahuas ….

  24. wbb

    Facebook in catchup mode adds twittering functionality.

    http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=13909

  25. jane

    Paul, we’re on our second whipster, a splendid specimen called Jasper who loves roaring up and down the beach with Rex the Minda Dog aka The Halfwit Hound.

  26. Nabakov

    While I can see the point of those who suggest Twitter has some yet insufficiently explored socio-cultural applications,I have quite a problem with being limited to only

  27. Nabakov

    140 characters

  28. Nabakov

    in search of an author.

  29. Paul Burns

    jane @ 25,
    My little one was called Faun. Lovely little one, she was too.

  30. Ribsy

    Thanks for checking out my blog. Yes I am a dog who tweets and blogs. My human is useless at it, and I am way more social. I like to run with the pack, what can I say. The beauty of Twitter is that if I don’t feel like sniffing annoying “SEO KING” and “MARKETING WHIZ” and “GET RICH NOW” butts anymore, it’s as simple as unfollowing and blocking them.

  31. Fine

    My whippet Agnes is very fond of your blog, Ribsy. But, she has a problem with it. When she goes to read the comments or write one, they’re not there. Can you suggest a solution?

    Faun is a lovely name for a whip, Paul. And yours sounds gorgeous, Jane.

  32. Ribsy

    Hi Fine – why don’t you email me at whippetgood[at]gmail.com and I can look into it – don’t want to hijack this comments thread..

  33. Behemoth

    Yes, this tread has really gone to the dogs.

  34. Fine

    Arf, arf!

  35. Pavlov's Cat

    Yes, this tread has really gone to the dogs.

    You mean it’s no longer a cat-like tread?

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