Comments on: In defence of gloom http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:16:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Brian http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160296 Brian Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:15:40 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160296 Good one, still@downfall, must have been a great night :) Good one, still@downfall, must have been a great night :)

]]> By: still@downfall http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160295 still@downfall Mon, 13 Apr 2009 13:14:37 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160295 Brian #25. A childhood memory of mine of a theatre effort at the Downfall has some revelance to this thread. It was the adaption of John O'Brien's, 'Said Hanrahan' to local idenities & geography. "We’ll all be rooned," said Mervynham In accents most forlorn Brian #25. A childhood memory of mine of a theatre effort at the Downfall has some revelance to this thread. It was the adaption of John O’Brien’s, ‘Said Hanrahan’ to local idenities & geography.

“We’ll all be rooned,” said Mervynham
In accents most forlorn

]]> By: Brian http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160294 Brian Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:15:27 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160294 Love it, Posey. To die for. Thankyou! Love it, Posey. To die for. Thankyou!

]]> By: Posey http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160293 Posey Mon, 13 Apr 2009 11:07:14 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160293 Brian, time for some nutty Edith Sitwell, I reckon. "Amid this hot green glowing gloom A word falls with a raindrop's boom... Like baskets of ripe fruit in air The bird-songs seem, suspended where Those goldfinches — the ripe warm lights Peck slyly at them—take quick flights. My feet are feathered like a bird Among the shadows scarcely heard; I bring you branches green with dew And fruits that you may crown anew Your whirring waspish-gilded hair Amid this cornucopia — Until your warm lips bear the stains And bird-blood leap within your veins." Brian, time for some nutty Edith Sitwell, I reckon.

“Amid this hot green glowing gloom
A word falls with a raindrop’s boom…
Like baskets of ripe fruit in air
The bird-songs seem, suspended where
Those goldfinches — the ripe warm lights
Peck slyly at them—take quick flights.
My feet are feathered like a bird
Among the shadows scarcely heard;
I bring you branches green with dew
And fruits that you may crown anew
Your whirring waspish-gilded hair
Amid this cornucopia —
Until your warm lips bear the stains
And bird-blood leap within your veins.”

]]> By: Brian http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160292 Brian Mon, 13 Apr 2009 10:49:40 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160292 Jack @ 16, you could be right about being gloomy about the stock market. In the end for me it comes down to whether the companies can turn a profit even in adverse circumstances. The last profit reporting season wasn't too bad profit-wise. It's just that many companies had to use their profits to pay down debt because of the gun-shy attitude of the banks to lending. Our income stream was down about 30% which is what happened in 1991. I can't imagine the next profit reporting season being better. Pretty much anything could happen. MikeM, you're right. There's a fine balance about <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie-the-Pooh" rel="nofollow">Winnie-the-Pooh</a> as distinct from <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie_the_Pooh" rel="nofollow">Winnie the Pooh</a>. still@downfall, Aeschylus, my goodness! Why am I not surprised, having seen some of the original theatre efforts on celebratory occasions back at 'The Downfall'. My own memories go back to Ardie's barn where we cut our thespian teeth. You are in good company here because 'Larvatus Prodeo' is <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/about-larvatus-prodeo/" rel="nofollow">based on a Greek theatre concept</a> where the masked philosopher (cough!) reveals all from behind the mask. Jack @ 16, you could be right about being gloomy about the stock market. In the end for me it comes down to whether the companies can turn a profit even in adverse circumstances. The last profit reporting season wasn’t too bad profit-wise. It’s just that many companies had to use their profits to pay down debt because of the gun-shy attitude of the banks to lending. Our income stream was down about 30% which is what happened in 1991.

I can’t imagine the next profit reporting season being better. Pretty much anything could happen.

MikeM, you’re right. There’s a fine balance about Winnie-the-Pooh as distinct from Winnie the Pooh.

still@downfall, Aeschylus, my goodness! Why am I not surprised, having seen some of the original theatre efforts on celebratory occasions back at ‘The Downfall’. My own memories go back to Ardie’s barn where we cut our thespian teeth.

You are in good company here because ‘Larvatus Prodeo’ is based on a Greek theatre concept where the masked philosopher (cough!) reveals all from behind the mask.

]]> By: still@downfall http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160291 still@downfall Mon, 13 Apr 2009 06:10:45 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160291 If there are benifits from gloom, is there even better results from suffering? Here is the words of an old tragic. http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Aeschylus/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeschylus If there are benifits from gloom, is there even better results from suffering?

Here is the words of an old tragic.
http://www.quotationspage.com/quotes/Aeschylus/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeschylus

]]> By: MikeM http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160290 MikeM Mon, 13 Apr 2009 03:26:21 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160290 Btian, If you want to enjoy being gloomy, then <a href="http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/9779/Part6.html" rel="nofollow">Eeyore's Birthday</a> is just the thing to read. Btian,

If you want to enjoy being gloomy, then Eeyore’s Birthday is just the thing to read.

]]> By: Brian http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160289 Brian Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:44:26 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160289 Yes, Helen it's one of the hazards of listening to Radio National, also NewsRadio and Local Radio for that matter. They keep giving you the shorthand results of 'new knowledge' but you never get to see the research design or the conclusions as expressed by the researchers. Paul, yes chocolate. For good or ill it's been off my diet list since the old triple bypass back in 2000. Used to eat a quarter of a pound of it washed down with a pint of full cream milk when I was young. We didn't know about clogged arteries then. chrisl, you're right, there won't be any doubters around by 2030. No-one ever said that CO2 was the main driver of climate. Most of us know that the greenhouse effect, worth about 30C and what makes the joint habitable, is mostly water vapour. But it's what happens <b>at the margin</b> that drives <b>climate change</b>. It's only people like <a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2006/01/calculating-the-greenhouse-effect/" rel="nofollow">some well-known Australian academic</a> that get it all muddled up. For about the last 3 million years the main story has been Milankovich cycles, orbital changes, consequent changes in insolation, ice albedo with CO2 as a feedback. Now the main game is CO2 again as it was for millions of years and dramatically during the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleocene-Eocene_Thermal_Maximum" rel="nofollow">PETM</a> 55mya (well methane clathrates probably, but carbon-based GHGs). Yes, Helen it’s one of the hazards of listening to Radio National, also NewsRadio and Local Radio for that matter. They keep giving you the shorthand results of ‘new knowledge’ but you never get to see the research design or the conclusions as expressed by the researchers.

Paul, yes chocolate. For good or ill it’s been off my diet list since the old triple bypass back in 2000. Used to eat a quarter of a pound of it washed down with a pint of full cream milk when I was young. We didn’t know about clogged arteries then.

chrisl, you’re right, there won’t be any doubters around by 2030. No-one ever said that CO2 was the main driver of climate. Most of us know that the greenhouse effect, worth about 30C and what makes the joint habitable, is mostly water vapour. But it’s what happens at the margin that drives climate change. It’s only people like some well-known Australian academic that get it all muddled up.

For about the last 3 million years the main story has been Milankovich cycles, orbital changes, consequent changes in insolation, ice albedo with CO2 as a feedback. Now the main game is CO2 again as it was for millions of years and dramatically during the PETM 55mya (well methane clathrates probably, but carbon-based GHGs).

]]> By: The Groke http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160288 The Groke Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:32:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160288 Brian, I read a newspaper report some years ago about how someone found a correlation (positive) between IQ and pessimism. Can't find it by googling, sorry. But as we know, MSM reports of scientific studies tend to be distorted anyway. (That's the pessimist talking :-) ) Brian, I read a newspaper report some years ago about how someone found a correlation (positive) between IQ and pessimism. Can’t find it by googling, sorry. But as we know, MSM reports of scientific studies tend to be distorted anyway. (That’s the pessimist talking :-) )

]]> By: Paul Burns http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160287 Paul Burns Mon, 13 Apr 2009 01:20:16 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/12/in-defence-of-gloom/#comment-160287 Brian @ 4, Chocolate is a well-known anti-depressant. Apparently a small percentage of the population lapse into serious depression on grey, cloudy days. For those few its a serious medical problem. Brian @ 4,
Chocolate is a well-known anti-depressant.

Apparently a small percentage of the population lapse into serious depression on grey, cloudy days. For those few its a serious medical problem.

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