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20 responses to “A case study in Public Relations online”

  1. silkworm

    if your organisation is responsible for a decades-old blight on the landscape that you don’t want people to notice

    Are you talking about infant formula? If not, what the hell are you talking about?

    This has to be one of the most obtuse and abstruse articles I’ve ever read here.

  2. tigtog

    @silkworm:

    Not into following links today, silkworm?

    That is the usual point of links in a post. Extra information.

  3. Paul Burns

    Before I even read all the post I guessed they picked plan B. Idiots! I reckon C would’ve been the best option in the hope that if you ignore bad things they’ll disappear.Mind you, that doesn’t always work and in some cases can lead to disaster. And I’m sure we have all delighted at some time or other on how teh Internet can get completely out of control. Seems like this might have been one of those times.

  4. moz

    Even “d: echo the propaganda of the sponsors and hope for the best” would have been better that invoking the Streisand effect. Normally I’d wonder if they’re doing this because they have a cunning plan, but in this case I think it’s Baldrick all the way.

  5. Paul Burns

    These moments seem to be happening somewhat frequently – witness the Amazon schmozzle when they de-rated erotica and included in that novels etc by gays and lesbians. From what I read about it it almost made me want to join Twitter.

  6. monkeytypist

    Silkworm is right; you could have saved us a lot of time and effort by summarising the situation in the 1st sentence. No reason at all that we should be forced to follow the links to find info that should be on the page (why so conspiratorial?). Opening the post like you did makes it sound like padding/waffle.

  7. Helen

    Conspiratorial. FFS.

  8. tigtog

    I freely admit that this post is playing with circumlocution, although there are some serious nuggets buried underneath the snark. If you don’t enjoy reading playful snark, then don’t bother.

  9. Pavlov's Cat

    Monkeytypist, if you needed ‘a lot of time and effort’ to read Tigtog’s post then perhaps this blog is too hard for you.

  10. Yaz

    OT, but Moz, I’m nostalgic for when Baldric’s plans were actually good, a la Blackadder 1, before the sad reversals of the later series. When will the telly take us peasants seriously. Harrumph!

  11. monkeytypist

    I can see there is a problem here in that I like reading about interesting topics like this, but I also like taking part in discussions about the best way to present them. Clearly most of the internet should be off limits for me. But if you would like to suggest blogs that I am qualified to read and comment on, that would no doubt be very helpful.

    Apologies for not understanding snark.

  12. Chris Grealy

    Thanks, Tig Tog, for the excellent posting. Don’t be discouraged.

  13. tigtog

    @Chris Grealy:

    Although I don’t post as much at LP as I once did, this level of disapproval of one of my posts is mild, so I’m just fine about this one. Nevertheless, your encouragement is most appreciated. Thank you.

  14. Joe Tripodi

    I hereby declare that I shall henceforth cease and desist from using my parliamentary printing and stationery allowance to assist corrupt right-wing tickets in student union elections.

  15. tigtog

    @“Joe Tripodi”:

    I’m sure I just heard one of your staffers talking indignantly to a journalist about how someone on the internet is misinforming the electorate about him ceasing and desisting from using his parliamentary printing and stationery allowance to assist corrupt right-wing tickets in student union elections!

    How dare that person on the internet misinform the electorate about Joe ceasing and desisting from such things!

  16. Tim Macknay

    I second Chris Grealy, TT.

    Nothing conspiratorial about it – just a great post.

  17. Marks

    I can see that getting endorsement of paediatricians was probably a good way of getting the market revved up initially, the infant formula sellers are probably better off breaking that nexus. It is sort of like Maccas trying to cosy up to the dieticians.

    Best for them to rev up their advertising in the open market as does the Mighty M.

    For the infant formula makers getting rid of the paediatrician nexus ‘is the proper thing to do’.

    Not that I particularly want to be bombarded by ads for NAN over my evening steak and chips, I hasten to add – perhaps I should cheer their present restraint.
    ;)

  18. tigtog

    Their “present restraint” is not entirely the infant formula manufacturers’ own choice, Marks. There is an International Code laying down guidelines for their marketing, because history has shown that when these companies market unrestrained by a Code then they blithely encourage practices that result in dead babies.

    The WHO in the Philippines estimates that 16,000 babies die every year because they are not adequately breastfed, with the marketing activities of companies like Wyeth, Abbott, and Mead Johnson contribute to this extreme level of infant mortality.

    Bottle-fed babies and those fed foods other than breast milk make up 90% of those that die under the age of six months.

    Are so many people here really unaware that there has been a Boycott Nestlé movement for decades now? Not that the International Code is foolproof. There’s a reason that the Boycott Nestlé movement is still active.

    SotBO*: yes, there are cases where artificial feeding is truly necessary for infants, and it’s good that there are products which can provide this nutrition when the mother (or a wetnurse or a donor milkbank) is unable to do so.

    *SotBo = Statement of the Bleeding Obvious

  19. Marks

    I have boycotted Nestle ever since they went from being Nessels to (w**k) Neslay.

    Which shows how inconsistent I am because my ears grate whenever I hear tennis commentators talking about Kosnetsover and Sharapover. *shrug*

    However, to your piece.

    I don’t particularly approve or disapprove of them, however, I was serious in saying that I think their association with the paediatricians is probably an anachronism that really is not much use to them any more in marketing terms. I mean, have not the US paediatricians come out as far back as ten years ago stating that breast feeding is the preferred method up to twelve months (iirc)?

    What do the supermarket aisles argue?

  20. tigtog

    @Marks:

    I mean, have not the US paediatricians come out as far back as ten years ago stating that breast feeding is the preferred method up to twelve months (iirc)?

    At least, which is exactly the point of the argument that accepting sponsor funding from these manufacturers creates a conflict of interest.

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