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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/18/a-case-study-in-public-relations-online/#comment-161229</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/18/a-case-study-in-public-relations-online/#comment-696408&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marks&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;I mean, have not the US paediatricians come out as far back as ten years ago stating that breast feeding is the preferred method up to twelve months (iirc)?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

At least, which is exactly the point of the argument that accepting sponsor funding from these manufacturers creates a conflict of interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/18/a-case-study-in-public-relations-online/#comment-696408" rel="nofollow">Marks</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>I mean, have not the US paediatricians come out as far back as ten years ago stating that breast feeding is the preferred method up to twelve months (iirc)?</p></blockquote>
<p>At least, which is exactly the point of the argument that accepting sponsor funding from these manufacturers creates a conflict of interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Marks</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/18/a-case-study-in-public-relations-online/#comment-161228</link>
		<dc:creator>Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have boycotted Nestle ever since they went from being Nessels to (w**k) Neslay.

Which shows how inconsistent I am because my ears grate whenever I hear tennis commentators talking about Kosnetsover and Sharapover.  *shrug*

However, to your piece.

I don&#039;t particularly approve or disapprove of them, however, I was serious in saying that I think their association with the paediatricians is probably an anachronism that really is not much use to them any more in marketing terms.  I mean, have not the US paediatricians come out as far back as ten years ago stating that breast feeding is the preferred method up to twelve months (iirc)?

What do the supermarket aisles argue?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have boycotted Nestle ever since they went from being Nessels to (w**k) Neslay.</p>
<p>Which shows how inconsistent I am because my ears grate whenever I hear tennis commentators talking about Kosnetsover and Sharapover.  *shrug*</p>
<p>However, to your piece.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t particularly approve or disapprove of them, however, I was serious in saying that I think their association with the paediatricians is probably an anachronism that really is not much use to them any more in marketing terms.  I mean, have not the US paediatricians come out as far back as ten years ago stating that breast feeding is the preferred method up to twelve months (iirc)?</p>
<p>What do the supermarket aisles argue?</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/18/a-case-study-in-public-relations-online/#comment-161227</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their &quot;present restraint&quot; is not entirely the infant formula manufacturers&#039; own choice, Marks.  There is an International Code laying down guidelines for their marketing, because history has shown that when these companies market unrestrained by a Code then they blithely encourage practices that result in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ibfan.org/site2005/Pages/article.php?art_id=466&amp;iui=1&amp;goto_news=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;dead babies&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;The WHO in the Philippines estimates that 16,000 babies die every year because they are not adequately breastfed, with the marketing activities of companies like Wyeth, Abbott, and Mead Johnson contribute to this extreme level of infant mortality.

Bottle-fed babies and those fed foods other than breast milk make up 90% of those that die under the age of six months. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Are so many people here really unaware that there has been a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infactcanada.ca/Nestle_Boycott.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Boycott Nestlé movement&lt;/a&gt; for decades now?  Not that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ibfan.org/site2005/Pages/list2.php?parent=2&amp;cat_id=16&amp;iui=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;International Code&lt;/a&gt; is foolproof.  There&#039;s a reason that the Boycott Nestlé movement is still active.

&lt;em&gt;SotBO*: yes, there are cases where artificial feeding is truly necessary for infants, and it&#039;s good that there are products which can provide this nutrition when the mother (or a wetnurse or a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/03/1995598.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;donor&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://mothersmilkbank.com.au/donor.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;milkbank&lt;/a&gt;) is unable to do so.

*SotBo = Statement of the Bleeding Obvious&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their &#8220;present restraint&#8221; is not entirely the infant formula manufacturers&#8217; own choice, Marks.  There is an International Code laying down guidelines for their marketing, because history has shown that when these companies market unrestrained by a Code then they blithely encourage practices that result in <a href="http://www.ibfan.org/site2005/Pages/article.php?art_id=466&amp;iui=1&amp;goto_news=1" rel="nofollow">dead babies</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>The WHO in the Philippines estimates that 16,000 babies die every year because they are not adequately breastfed, with the marketing activities of companies like Wyeth, Abbott, and Mead Johnson contribute to this extreme level of infant mortality.</p>
<p>Bottle-fed babies and those fed foods other than breast milk make up 90% of those that die under the age of six months. </p></blockquote>
<p>Are so many people here really unaware that there has been a <a href="http://www.infactcanada.ca/Nestle_Boycott.htm" rel="nofollow">Boycott Nestlé movement</a> for decades now?  Not that the <a href="http://www.ibfan.org/site2005/Pages/list2.php?parent=2&amp;cat_id=16&amp;iui=1" rel="nofollow">International Code</a> is foolproof.  There&#8217;s a reason that the Boycott Nestlé movement is still active.</p>
<p><em>SotBO*: yes, there are cases where artificial feeding is truly necessary for infants, and it&#8217;s good that there are products which can provide this nutrition when the mother (or a wetnurse or a <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/08/03/1995598.htm" rel="nofollow">donor</a> <a href="http://mothersmilkbank.com.au/donor.htm" rel="nofollow">milkbank</a>) is unable to do so.</p>
<p>*SotBo = Statement of the Bleeding Obvious</em></p>
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		<title>By: Marks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see that getting endorsement of paediatricians was probably a good way of getting the market revved up initially, the infant formula sellers are probably better off breaking that nexus.  It is sort of like Maccas trying to cosy up to the dieticians.

Best for them to rev up their advertising in the open market as does the Mighty M.

For the infant formula makers getting rid of the paediatrician nexus &#039;is the proper thing to do&#039;.

Not that I particularly want to be bombarded by ads for NAN over my evening steak and chips, I hasten to add - perhaps I should cheer their present restraint.

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see that getting endorsement of paediatricians was probably a good way of getting the market revved up initially, the infant formula sellers are probably better off breaking that nexus.  It is sort of like Maccas trying to cosy up to the dieticians.</p>
<p>Best for them to rev up their advertising in the open market as does the Mighty M.</p>
<p>For the infant formula makers getting rid of the paediatrician nexus &#8216;is the proper thing to do&#8217;.</p>
<p>Not that I particularly want to be bombarded by ads for NAN over my evening steak and chips, I hasten to add &#8211; perhaps I should cheer their present restraint.<br />
 <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tim Macknay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Macknay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second Chris Grealy, TT.

Nothing conspiratorial about it - just a great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second Chris Grealy, TT.</p>
<p>Nothing conspiratorial about it &#8211; just a great post.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 00:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/18/a-case-study-in-public-relations-online/#comment-695626&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Joe Tripodi&quot;&lt;/a&gt;:

I&#039;m sure I just heard one of your staffers talking indignantly to a journalist about how someone on the internet is misinforming the electorate about him ceasing and desisting from using his parliamentary printing and stationery allowance to assist corrupt right-wing tickets in student union elections!

How dare that person on the internet misinform the electorate about Joe ceasing and desisting from such things!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/18/a-case-study-in-public-relations-online/#comment-695626" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Joe Tripodi&#8221;</a>:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure I just heard one of your staffers talking indignantly to a journalist about how someone on the internet is misinforming the electorate about him ceasing and desisting from using his parliamentary printing and stationery allowance to assist corrupt right-wing tickets in student union elections!</p>
<p>How dare that person on the internet misinform the electorate about Joe ceasing and desisting from such things!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Tripodi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Tripodi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 22:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hereby declare that I shall henceforth cease and desist from using my parliamentary printing and stationery allowance to assist corrupt right-wing tickets in student union elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hereby declare that I shall henceforth cease and desist from using my parliamentary printing and stationery allowance to assist corrupt right-wing tickets in student union elections.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
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		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 21:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/18/a-case-study-in-public-relations-online/#comment-695539&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Chris Grealy&lt;/a&gt;:

Although I don&#039;t post as much at LP as I once did, this level of disapproval of one of my posts is mild, so I&#039;m just fine about this one.  Nevertheless, your encouragement is most appreciated.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/18/a-case-study-in-public-relations-online/#comment-695539" rel="nofollow">Chris Grealy</a>:</p>
<p>Although I don&#8217;t post as much at LP as I once did, this level of disapproval of one of my posts is mild, so I&#8217;m just fine about this one.  Nevertheless, your encouragement is most appreciated.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Grealy</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/18/a-case-study-in-public-relations-online/#comment-161221</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Grealy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 20:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Tig Tog, for the excellent posting. Don&#039;t be discouraged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Tig Tog, for the excellent posting. Don&#8217;t be discouraged.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeytypist</title>
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		<dc:creator>monkeytypist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 12:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see there is a problem here in that I like reading about interesting topics like this, but I also like taking part in discussions about the best way to present them.  Clearly most of the internet should be off limits for me.  But if you would like to suggest blogs that I am qualified to read and comment on, that would no doubt be very helpful.

Apologies for not understanding snark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see there is a problem here in that I like reading about interesting topics like this, but I also like taking part in discussions about the best way to present them.  Clearly most of the internet should be off limits for me.  But if you would like to suggest blogs that I am qualified to read and comment on, that would no doubt be very helpful.</p>
<p>Apologies for not understanding snark.</p>
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