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		<title>By: I Am From Hadria</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/24/lest-we-keep-on-forgetting/#comment-162331</link>
		<dc:creator>I Am From Hadria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 04:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well that&#039;s what my name means. But I&#039;ve never been there.
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Sorry I&#039;m gonna stop horsing around now. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well that&#8217;s what my name means. But I&#8217;ve never been there.<br />
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Sorry I&#8217;m gonna stop horsing around now. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ab? Ray??n Mu?ammad ibn A?mad al-B?r?n? Ab? Zayd ‘Abdu r-Ra?man bin Mu?ammad bin Khald?n Al-Hadrami</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/24/lest-we-keep-on-forgetting/#comment-162330</link>
		<dc:creator>Ab? Ray??n Mu?ammad ibn A?mad al-B?r?n? Ab? Zayd ‘Abdu r-Ra?man bin Mu?ammad bin Khald?n Al-Hadrami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 04:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Liam I had something to say but I&#039;m too knackered from writing my name out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Liam I had something to say but I&#8217;m too knackered from writing my name out.</p>
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		<title>By: Cheeses Crisis</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/24/lest-we-keep-on-forgetting/#comment-162329</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheeses Crisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The secret of success in a war which required the transformation of millions into cannon fodder, was to construct myths that disguised actual purpose.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So you&#039;re saying the ANZACs were canon fodder?
[The sound of a half-hearted half-stoned lounge drummer putting his beer down long enough to throw a stick across a snare drum]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The secret of success in a war which required the transformation of millions into cannon fodder, was to construct myths that disguised actual purpose.</p></blockquote>
<p>So you&#8217;re saying the ANZACs were canon fodder?<br />
[The sound of a half-hearted half-stoned lounge drummer putting his beer down long enough to throw a stick across a snare drum]</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/24/lest-we-keep-on-forgetting/#comment-162328</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 03:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only an idiot would assert that the Great War was fought without purpose.

And equally, only an idiot would mistake general purposelessness with moral purposelessness. Popular cultural renditions of the Great War, such as &quot;Oh, What a Lovely War&quot; were about moral purposelessness, not about motivelessness.

And Wilson is no idiot. However, he does construct a straw man who does idiotically argue the above.

At the risk of needless repetition, the purpose of the Allied war effort can be found in the Secret Treaties. There was nothing moral in those purposes, but neither were they motiveless. Quite the contrary.

The secret of success in a war which required the transformation of millions into cannon fodder, was to construct myths that disguised actual purpose. The ANZAC Myth was one of the most successful and long-lived examples of this process. And let me add that the rhetoric reproduced by Sally R @ #126 is a fine early example of useful rhetoric.

The problem with associating Imperial Germany with the abnegation of liberalism is that Russia supplied well over half the manpower for the Allied cause. Imperial Russia was far less liberal and democratic than Imperial Germany.

Imperial Germany became Britain&#039;s enemy not because Germany was anti-liberal but because Germany&#039;s diplomacy was so inept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only an idiot would assert that the Great War was fought without purpose.</p>
<p>And equally, only an idiot would mistake general purposelessness with moral purposelessness. Popular cultural renditions of the Great War, such as &#8220;Oh, What a Lovely War&#8221; were about moral purposelessness, not about motivelessness.</p>
<p>And Wilson is no idiot. However, he does construct a straw man who does idiotically argue the above.</p>
<p>At the risk of needless repetition, the purpose of the Allied war effort can be found in the Secret Treaties. There was nothing moral in those purposes, but neither were they motiveless. Quite the contrary.</p>
<p>The secret of success in a war which required the transformation of millions into cannon fodder, was to construct myths that disguised actual purpose. The ANZAC Myth was one of the most successful and long-lived examples of this process. And let me add that the rhetoric reproduced by Sally R @ #126 is a fine early example of useful rhetoric.</p>
<p>The problem with associating Imperial Germany with the abnegation of liberalism is that Russia supplied well over half the manpower for the Allied cause. Imperial Russia was far less liberal and democratic than Imperial Germany.</p>
<p>Imperial Germany became Britain&#8217;s enemy not because Germany was anti-liberal but because Germany&#8217;s diplomacy was so inept.</p>
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		<title>By: Identity Crisis</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/24/lest-we-keep-on-forgetting/#comment-162327</link>
		<dc:creator>Identity Crisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 03:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O noes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O noes!</p>
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		<title>By: Banal Hussein al-Sarcasti</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/24/lest-we-keep-on-forgetting/#comment-162326</link>
		<dc:creator>Banal Hussein al-Sarcasti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 03:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All my dreams are made, oh A-says.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All my dreams are made, oh A-says.</p>
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		<title>By: Noel Gallagher's Arsehole Brother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noel Gallagher's Arsehole Brother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 03:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or this? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or this? <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Liam The Second</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam The Second</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 03:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this better? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this better? <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 03:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would all Adria/ens please report for compulsory issuing of second or nicknames. Ta.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would all Adria/ens please report for compulsory issuing of second or nicknames. Ta.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/24/lest-we-keep-on-forgetting/#comment-162322</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 03:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>adrian - &lt;i&gt;Adrien is diplaying all the syptoms of Catallaxitus, a disease where assertion becomes argument, insults become the norm, and the pot too often cals the kettle black.&lt;/i&gt;
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Well that&#039;s horseshit. I know the difference between assertion and argument and people here make plenty on assertions sans substance.
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I haven&#039;t made any comments on this thread &#039;til now. Whoever Adrian is, it&#039;s not me. Clue: There&#039;s more than one person in the world name of Adrian or adrian or even the Latinate version of it as in spelled with an &#039;e&#039;. Other clue: There ain&#039;t no gravatar. That said Adrian&#039;s comments aren&#039;t assertions more criticism of the post. A little thin on substance but whatever. S/he hasn&#039;t insulted anyone as far as I can see. And except for one exception I have never insulted anyone who didn&#039;t do me first. :)  .
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Personally I don&#039;t give a royal flying fuck about national mythology. A couple centuries from now this country&#039;s likely to be part of a broader imperial nexus centered either in America or China.  Funny how monkeys always get hysterical and sentimental about [insert current polity here]. Anyone remember the Khanate of the Golden Horde, the Ghazi Emirates, Umimiyad, Mazovia, Khorasan?
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No? Funny that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>adrian &#8211; <i>Adrien is diplaying all the syptoms of Catallaxitus, a disease where assertion becomes argument, insults become the norm, and the pot too often cals the kettle black.</i><br />
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Well that&#8217;s horseshit. I know the difference between assertion and argument and people here make plenty on assertions sans substance.<br />
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I haven&#8217;t made any comments on this thread &#8217;til now. Whoever Adrian is, it&#8217;s not me. Clue: There&#8217;s more than one person in the world name of Adrian or adrian or even the Latinate version of it as in spelled with an &#8216;e&#8217;. Other clue: There ain&#8217;t no gravatar. That said Adrian&#8217;s comments aren&#8217;t assertions more criticism of the post. A little thin on substance but whatever. S/he hasn&#8217;t insulted anyone as far as I can see. And except for one exception I have never insulted anyone who didn&#8217;t do me first. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   .<br />
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Personally I don&#8217;t give a royal flying fuck about national mythology. A couple centuries from now this country&#8217;s likely to be part of a broader imperial nexus centered either in America or China.  Funny how monkeys always get hysterical and sentimental about [insert current polity here]. Anyone remember the Khanate of the Golden Horde, the Ghazi Emirates, Umimiyad, Mazovia, Khorasan?<br />
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No? Funny that.</p>
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