Comments on: Does Turnbull have a (viable) political strategy (at all)? http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 11:17:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Paul Burns http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162640 Paul Burns Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:09:07 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162640 Because I think its very odd they're going to reveal the secrets of this you-beaut security system to hackers so the hackers can't hack it (assuming I've read it correctly.) Because I think its very odd they’re going to reveal the secrets of this you-beaut security system to hackers so the hackers can’t hack it (assuming I’ve read it correctly.)

]]> By: Sally R http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162639 Sally R Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:01:39 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162639 Paul, out of interest, why did you find it seriously weird? Paul, out of interest, why did you find it seriously weird?

]]> By: Paul Burns http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162638 Paul Burns Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:36:40 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162638 Wow, I never knew about any of that.! [that1 in italics.] Wow, I never knew about any of that.! [that1 in italics.]

]]> By: Sally R http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162637 Sally R Wed, 29 Apr 2009 09:00:34 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162637 David, that's an overwhelming reason for the Government to use open-source software and protocols right there. You think it sounds like cryptographic snake-oil being sold to the taxpayer? Feel free to look under the hood. BTW, I found a video presentation <a href="http://www.fips201.com/articles/2008/11/12/october-22-iab-meeting-video" rel="nofollow">here</a> ('Briefing on PLAID'). I have to say I don't see that it falls into any of Schneier's categories. David, that’s an overwhelming reason for the Government to use open-source software and protocols right there. You think it sounds like cryptographic snake-oil being sold to the taxpayer? Feel free to look under the hood.

BTW, I found a video presentation here (‘Briefing on PLAID’). I have to say I don’t see that it falls into any of Schneier’s categories.

]]> By: David Irving (no relation) http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162636 David Irving (no relation) Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:50:53 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162636 Paul, one of the things I find seriously weird about the Centrelink crypto thing is the claim they use two different cryptographic algorithms (at least I think that's what it said). It sounds a bit like it would fall into <a href="http://www.schneier.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">Bruce Schneier's</a> definition of cryptographic snake-oil. Paul, one of the things I find seriously weird about the Centrelink crypto thing is the claim they use two different cryptographic algorithms (at least I think that’s what it said). It sounds a bit like it would fall into Bruce Schneier’s definition of cryptographic snake-oil.

]]> By: Ginja http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162635 Ginja Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:35:41 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162635 Why doesn't all spending on public works create an increase in national income, exactly? It's certainly a novel concept, but I doubt a serious economist would agree with it. One of the smart things about Rudd's spending on school buildings and council public works is that it the money will be spent around the country fairly evenly. Building a big bridge in Qld probably won't stimulate the economy all that much in Tasmania. Ah the Japan meme - Japan spent big, and see it didn't work. Do they think these things up in right-wing think-tanks? I suppose they have to find something to do with their time nowadays. Like the one about Fannie and Freddie causing the GFC , it's bunk. Japan was a "trainwreck" because of the huge real estate bubble and the financial mess that resulted. Have you stopped to consider that things might have been much worse had the Japanese not spent on public works? Japan should teach us that it is vital to fix the banks quickly, and that governments should not pull back spending too early. My big fear is that governments will be influenced right-wingers banging on about public debt and pull back spending too early. Another right-wing obsession is interest on public debt - as if there would be no cost to falling into a depression! Why doesn’t all spending on public works create an increase in national income, exactly? It’s certainly a novel concept, but I doubt a serious economist would agree with it.

One of the smart things about Rudd’s spending on school buildings and council public works is that it the money will be spent around the country fairly evenly. Building a big bridge in Qld probably won’t stimulate the economy all that much in Tasmania.

Ah the Japan meme – Japan spent big, and see it didn’t work. Do they think these things up in right-wing think-tanks? I suppose they have to find something to do with their time nowadays. Like the one about Fannie and Freddie causing the GFC , it’s bunk.

Japan was a “trainwreck” because of the huge real estate bubble and the financial mess that resulted. Have you stopped to consider that things might have been much worse had the Japanese not spent on public works?

Japan should teach us that it is vital to fix the banks quickly, and that governments should not pull back spending too early.

My big fear is that governments will be influenced right-wingers banging on about public debt and pull back spending too early.

Another right-wing obsession is interest on public debt – as if there would be no cost to falling into a depression!

]]> By: Ben Eltham http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162634 Ben Eltham Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:24:41 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162634 Craig Mc, you might want to take a look at the front cover of the AFR today. According to documents FOI'd from Treasury, it looks as though Howard and Costello spent more than $300 billion in new spending and tax cuts between 2004-05 and the 2007 election, "the loosest fiscal policy since the Whitlam years." Paul Cleary argues that if the Liberals really were the party of fiscal discipline, they'd have squirrelled away far more of the tax receipts from the boom years, perhaps in a Norwegian style sovereign wealth fund. This is why Access Economics is saying that the budget is in structural deficit - the commodity boom didn't last (shock!) and therefore the new spending in portfolios like defence, the tax cuts and family tax benefits committed to in those years are probably unsustainable. Craig Mc, you might want to take a look at the front cover of the AFR today. According to documents FOI’d from Treasury, it looks as though Howard and Costello spent more than $300 billion in new spending and tax cuts between 2004-05 and the 2007 election, “the loosest fiscal policy since the Whitlam years.”

Paul Cleary argues that if the Liberals really were the party of fiscal discipline, they’d have squirrelled away far more of the tax receipts from the boom years, perhaps in a Norwegian style sovereign wealth fund.

This is why Access Economics is saying that the budget is in structural deficit – the commodity boom didn’t last (shock!) and therefore the new spending in portfolios like defence, the tax cuts and family tax benefits committed to in those years are probably unsustainable.

]]> By: Sally R http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162633 Sally R Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:00:53 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162633 Paul, I don't know if it was initially Centrelink's intention to release the protocol open-source - but it should certainly be encouraged. See <a href="http://www.nlnet.nl/press/20080619-ovcard.html" rel="nofollow">OV-chip 2.0</a>, and <a href="http://www.advogato.org/article/1002.html" rel="nofollow">Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: UK Government Policy</a> for similarities and benefits (or, 'how to avoid myki debacles of the future'). OT, but that second link is a must read for anyone interested in open-source models. Paul, I don’t know if it was initially Centrelink’s intention to release the protocol open-source – but it should certainly be encouraged.

See OV-chip 2.0, and Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: UK Government Policy for similarities and benefits (or, ‘how to avoid myki debacles of the future’).

OT, but that second link is a must read for anyone interested in open-source models.

]]> By: Paul Burns http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162632 Paul Burns Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:14:39 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162632 btw, is it just me, or does anybody else find this seriously weird: http://www.techworld.com.au/article/301216/centrelink_issues_500k_unbreakable_code_free (I'm putting it here as part of this Centrelink/political rep. discussion.) btw, is it just me, or does anybody else find this seriously weird:

http://www.techworld.com.au/article/301216/centrelink_issues_500k_unbreakable_code_free

(I’m putting it here as part of this Centrelink/political rep. discussion.)

]]> By: Paul Burns http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162631 Paul Burns Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:06:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/27/does-turnbull-have-a-viable-political-strategy-at-all/#comment-162631 Oh, one word of warning though. If you are having a problem with Centrelink RING your local member BEFORE you lodge an appeal, as soon as the shit has hit the fan. Once you've lodged an appeal your local MP can't do anything until the apeal process is over. And always, always apeal from your local office, to regional office, to Social Security Appeals Tribunal (I'm assuming Howard didn't abolish it) to Administrative Appeals Tribunal. Unless you are being blatantly dishonest (and you'll know that before you lodge an appeal, unless you're very thick) its almost always the result of some bureaucratic bullshit that will get overturned on appeal. So you will win. Oh, one word of warning though. If you are having a problem with Centrelink RING your local member BEFORE you lodge an appeal, as soon as the shit has hit the fan. Once you’ve lodged an appeal your local MP can’t do anything until the apeal process is over. And always, always apeal from your local office, to regional office, to Social Security Appeals Tribunal (I’m assuming Howard didn’t abolish it) to Administrative Appeals Tribunal. Unless you are being blatantly dishonest (and you’ll know that before you lodge an appeal, unless you’re very thick) its almost always the result of some bureaucratic bullshit that will get overturned on appeal. So you will win.

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