Comments on: Rudd sides with the bigots http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:06:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: moz http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162888 moz Sat, 02 May 2009 06:52:05 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162888 Ginja, there's all sorts of weird bureaucrazy that touches on gays. My favourite moment was my sister trying for british citizenship and having to "demonstrate an ongoing sexual relationship". The mind boggles... do you go to them or do they come to you? So to speak. But using statistics to detect gays is tricky. You run into "self identified" vs "observed behaviour"... just because he's wearing leather chaps in the mardi gras parade doesn't mean he identifies as gay. Trying to tie gay venue use figures to sexual health reports to marriage breakdown numbers to internet surveys gets very confusing. Somewhere between 0.1% and 50% of people might be gay, depending on your definition. Makes the sexual abuse stats seem positively rock solid. Ginja, there’s all sorts of weird bureaucrazy that touches on gays. My favourite moment was my sister trying for british citizenship and having to “demonstrate an ongoing sexual relationship”. The mind boggles… do you go to them or do they come to you? So to speak.

But using statistics to detect gays is tricky. You run into “self identified” vs “observed behaviour”… just because he’s wearing leather chaps in the mardi gras parade doesn’t mean he identifies as gay. Trying to tie gay venue use figures to sexual health reports to marriage breakdown numbers to internet surveys gets very confusing. Somewhere between 0.1% and 50% of people might be gay, depending on your definition. Makes the sexual abuse stats seem positively rock solid.

]]> By: joe2 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162887 joe2 Sat, 02 May 2009 04:26:25 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162887 I wonder if our pollies supposed religious misgivings, against gay marriage, can be overidden if they think there is a buck in it. It seems to sway them on just about everything else! "Some economists say carving out an economic niche for gay and lesbian weddings -- and the spending that comes with them -- makes sense at a time same-sex marriage has stalled in California and a recession is deepening." http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE53T8PK20090501 I wonder if our pollies supposed religious misgivings, against gay marriage, can be overidden if they think there is a buck in it. It seems to sway them on just about everything else!

“Some economists say carving out an economic niche for gay and lesbian weddings — and the spending that comes with them — makes sense at a time same-sex marriage has stalled in California and a recession is deepening.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSTRE53T8PK20090501

]]> By: Paul Burns http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162886 Paul Burns Sat, 02 May 2009 04:03:19 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162886 When I first clicked on LP, it must be a year and a half ago now, I thought it was a feminist site, partly because of the colour purple and partly because the first thread I clicked onto, linked from Graham Young's site, was a thread in which there was a somewhat full-blooded feminist/anti-feminist stoush going on. Just sayin'. btw the gay colour is pink. When I first clicked on LP, it must be a year and a half ago now, I thought it was a feminist site, partly because of the colour purple and partly because the first thread I clicked onto, linked from Graham Young’s site, was a thread in which there was a somewhat full-blooded feminist/anti-feminist stoush going on. Just sayin’.
btw the gay colour is pink.

]]> By: Ginja http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162885 Ginja Sat, 02 May 2009 03:13:08 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162885 Myriad, you've got to be kidding! I had no idea the ABS collected these kinds of stats. I love the idea of someone from the ABS with a clipboard asking: "Out of 10 how gay would you say you are? 10 being flaming and 1 merely liking 'Antique Roadshow'". John Kenneth Galbraith warned never to use irony or humour in print - half the people won't get the joke. Myriad, you’ve got to be kidding! I had no idea the ABS collected these kinds of stats. I love the idea of someone from the ABS with a clipboard asking: “Out of 10 how gay would you say you are? 10 being flaming and 1 merely liking ‘Antique Roadshow’”.

John Kenneth Galbraith warned never to use irony or humour in print – half the people won’t get the joke.

]]> By: Liam http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162884 Liam Fri, 01 May 2009 22:34:50 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162884 To me the colour's always been a very Catholic purple, like the fascia around the cassock of a bishop or a prelate. You can't get more butch than a bishop---British Racing Green indeed. To me the colour’s always been a very Catholic purple, like the fascia around the cassock of a bishop or a prelate.
You can’t get more butch than a bishop—British Racing Green indeed.

]]> By: myriad http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162883 myriad Fri, 01 May 2009 12:09:20 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162883 <i>All my stereotypes are based on ABS figures.</i> <a href="http://elecpress.monash.edu.au/pnp/cart/download/free.php?paper=38" rel="nofollow">As this study points out</a> the ABS methodology for identifying gays and lesbians is flawed because people are only counted as gay/lesbian if they are living in the same household and are therefore inferred to be in a defacto same sex relationship. So you might want to unclench your childishly tenacious grip from those stereotypes. All my stereotypes are based on ABS figures.

As this study points out the ABS methodology for identifying gays and lesbians is flawed because people are only counted as gay/lesbian if they are living in the same household and are therefore inferred to be in a defacto same sex relationship.

So you might want to unclench your childishly tenacious grip from those stereotypes.

]]> By: myriad http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162882 myriad Fri, 01 May 2009 11:15:22 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162882 <i>Rudd’s attitude is very hard to work out.</i> not really Sam, sadly, once you get your head around the fact that the man really is a conservative god botherer with a bit of a conscience in many good areas, but certainly not when it comes to teh gays. Rudd’s attitude is very hard to work out.

not really Sam, sadly, once you get your head around the fact that the man really is a conservative god botherer with a bit of a conscience in many good areas, but certainly not when it comes to teh gays.

]]> By: Sam http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162881 Sam Fri, 01 May 2009 09:06:24 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162881 Rudd's attitude is very hard to work out. Given the majority of Australians are totally supportive of gay marriage, or don't really care either way, there is no political risk, and he will be shining some positive political light among all the economic gloom. Rudd’s attitude is very hard to work out. Given the majority of Australians are totally supportive of gay marriage, or don’t really care either way, there is no political risk, and he will be shining some positive political light among all the economic gloom.

]]> By: Sans Blog http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162880 Sans Blog Fri, 01 May 2009 08:45:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162880 I wonder how gay refugees from Iraq would fair in Australia if they arrived by boat: http://www.starobserver.com.au/news/2009/05/01/iraqi-gay-torture-claim/5922 I wonder how gay refugees from Iraq would fair in Australia if they arrived by boat:

http://www.starobserver.com.au/news/2009/05/01/iraqi-gay-torture-claim/5922

]]> By: FDB http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162879 FDB Fri, 01 May 2009 08:37:01 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/04/29/rudd-sides-with-the-bigots/#comment-162879 True moz, but British Racing Green is the awesomest colour ever. I've always thought of LP's colour scheme as Purple Rain. True moz, but British Racing Green is the awesomest colour ever.

I’ve always thought of LP’s colour scheme as Purple Rain.

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