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	<title>Comments on: Keelty resigns</title>
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		<title>By: Bocco</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/06/keelty-resigns/#comment-155057</link>
		<dc:creator>Bocco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 05:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Keelty is in the CSS, I doubt that the 54/11 option would give him any advantage. His salary is too high.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Keelty is in the CSS, I doubt that the 54/11 option would give him any advantage. His salary is too high.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/06/keelty-resigns/#comment-155056</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 02:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks FDB</description>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/06/keelty-resigns/#comment-155055</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FDB @ 72 - I think its easy just to focus on those sentenced to death (and originally only 2 of 9 were given the death sentence) but they were voluntarily participating in a drug trafficking network that involves a lot of needless pain, death &amp; corruption from production to end users.

So I&#039;m not completely comfortable with the outcome, but at the same time we&#039;ll never know how much pain or deaths were avoided by the interception of the drugs and stopping of one of the major Indonesian drug traffickers (albeit shot dead during arrest).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDB @ 72 &#8211; I think its easy just to focus on those sentenced to death (and originally only 2 of 9 were given the death sentence) but they were voluntarily participating in a drug trafficking network that involves a lot of needless pain, death &amp; corruption from production to end users.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not completely comfortable with the outcome, but at the same time we&#8217;ll never know how much pain or deaths were avoided by the interception of the drugs and stopping of one of the major Indonesian drug traffickers (albeit shot dead during arrest).</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/06/keelty-resigns/#comment-155054</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conspiracy to import a traffickable quantity of illicit drugs.</description>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/06/keelty-resigns/#comment-155053</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FDB - I agree that the Bali 9 situation sucks, but I&#039;m curious as to what they could have charged them with in Aus?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDB &#8211; I agree that the Bali 9 situation sucks, but I&#8217;m curious as to what they could have charged them with in Aus?</p>
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		<title>By: myriad</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/06/keelty-resigns/#comment-155052</link>
		<dc:creator>myriad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard on RN yesterday that there&#039;s a major audit of the AFP due in June. Keelty apparently said that the results will do the AFP &#039;a lot of good&#039; (paraphrasing). Methinks that the combination of his golden handshake and this audit has made it a good time to jump.

It&#039;s a wistful thought of mine that perhaps the audit shows how incompetent and inappropriate Keelty&#039;s behaviour has been, and upon reading the draft he&#039;s been told by the gov&#039;t to shove off now with full honours, or face the boot.

Now let&#039;s see if we can get a credible person to head the AFP and restore its reptuation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard on RN yesterday that there&#8217;s a major audit of the AFP due in June. Keelty apparently said that the results will do the AFP &#8216;a lot of good&#8217; (paraphrasing). Methinks that the combination of his golden handshake and this audit has made it a good time to jump.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a wistful thought of mine that perhaps the audit shows how incompetent and inappropriate Keelty&#8217;s behaviour has been, and upon reading the draft he&#8217;s been told by the gov&#8217;t to shove off now with full honours, or face the boot.</p>
<p>Now let&#8217;s see if we can get a credible person to head the AFP and restore its reptuation.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/06/keelty-resigns/#comment-155051</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The Bali 9 may have been all they managed to get in the end, but from the AFP point of view they wanted more of the network than that.&quot;

At what price? That of knowingly sending Australians to their probable deaths.

Are you really okay with that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Bali 9 may have been all they managed to get in the end, but from the AFP point of view they wanted more of the network than that.&#8221;</p>
<p>At what price? That of knowingly sending Australians to their probable deaths.</p>
<p>Are you really okay with that?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:23:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FDB @ 69 - by not informing the Indonesian authorities beforehand it would have greatly reduced the probability of being able to arrest the people further up the chain. Its would have been a pretty big advantage to have the Indonesian police follow the suspects around.

Ideally there would be some way for the AFP to pass information on the basis that those charged would not face the death penalty (though life in an Indonesian jail is not going to be much of an improvement).

If they had arrested the suspects beforehand (and getting a conviction would probably be much harder) its probable that the smugglers would just have found a bunch of other drug mules that the AFP did not know about.

The Bali 9 may have been all they managed to get in the end, but from the AFP point of view they wanted more of the network than that. In terms of credit/publicity presumably the AFP would prefer to do the arrests in Australia themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDB @ 69 &#8211; by not informing the Indonesian authorities beforehand it would have greatly reduced the probability of being able to arrest the people further up the chain. Its would have been a pretty big advantage to have the Indonesian police follow the suspects around.</p>
<p>Ideally there would be some way for the AFP to pass information on the basis that those charged would not face the death penalty (though life in an Indonesian jail is not going to be much of an improvement).</p>
<p>If they had arrested the suspects beforehand (and getting a conviction would probably be much harder) its probable that the smugglers would just have found a bunch of other drug mules that the AFP did not know about.</p>
<p>The Bali 9 may have been all they managed to get in the end, but from the AFP point of view they wanted more of the network than that. In terms of credit/publicity presumably the AFP would prefer to do the arrests in Australia themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/06/keelty-resigns/#comment-155049</link>
		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the good old 54/11 eh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the good old 54/11 eh?</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/06/keelty-resigns/#comment-155048</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But it is a country we cooperate with on quite a few matters and I don’t think we can expect them to share information with us if we don’t do the same. We’d be pretty annoyed if another country’s police force knew about crimes being committed in our country and didn’t tell us about it. It wasn’t even the case of the behaviour being legal in our country but illegal in theirs.&quot;

Can you please read the following points closely Chris?

1) There has been no suggestion anywhere, ever, by anyone that the AFP should have let the suspects complete their smuggling mission, take their cut and go free.

2) The information implicating the Bali 9 came initially from the family of one of the suspects &lt;i&gt;in Australia&lt;/i&gt;. It was not an Indonesian investigation until the AFP decided to make it one.

3) The suspects could have been arrested in Australia before they left, or when they returned, and interrogated, charged etc &lt;i&gt;under Australian law&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But it is a country we cooperate with on quite a few matters and I don’t think we can expect them to share information with us if we don’t do the same. We’d be pretty annoyed if another country’s police force knew about crimes being committed in our country and didn’t tell us about it. It wasn’t even the case of the behaviour being legal in our country but illegal in theirs.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you please read the following points closely Chris?</p>
<p>1) There has been no suggestion anywhere, ever, by anyone that the AFP should have let the suspects complete their smuggling mission, take their cut and go free.</p>
<p>2) The information implicating the Bali 9 came initially from the family of one of the suspects <i>in Australia</i>. It was not an Indonesian investigation until the AFP decided to make it one.</p>
<p>3) The suspects could have been arrested in Australia before they left, or when they returned, and interrogated, charged etc <i>under Australian law</i>.</p>
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