Comments on: Murdoch: the current days of the Internet will soon be over http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:11:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: daggett http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155299 daggett Tue, 26 May 2009 09:51:59 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155299 Thanks, Adrien. Sorry I went AWOL. It seems that either one accepts the laws of Physics or one accepts the explanations provided by NIST for the three unprecedented engineering disasters which occurred on 11 September 2001. Thanks, Adrien. Sorry I went AWOL.

It seems that either one accepts the laws of Physics or one accepts the explanations provided by NIST for the three unprecedented engineering disasters which occurred on 11 September 2001.

]]> By: Adrien http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155298 Adrien Thu, 14 May 2009 09:40:19 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155298 Wbb - <i>The US govt FEMA study said the steel didn’t melt - it just softened enuff for the structure to weaken and for the floors to fall.</i> . Please read comment #79. . <i>We’ve swallowed it because there aren’t any engineers and physicists writing letters to Tall Bldgs Monthly expressing their incredulity.</i> . <a href="http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/content.php?TOCIEJ/2008/00000002/00000001/35TOCIEJ.SGM" rel="nofollow">No</a> ? None <a href="http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/WhyIndeedDidtheWorldTradeCenterBuildingsCompletelyCollapse.pdf" rel="nofollow">whatsoever?</a>. . Okay. I didn't know that. Wbb – The US govt FEMA study said the steel didn’t melt – it just softened enuff for the structure to weaken and for the floors to fall.
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Please read comment #79.
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We’ve swallowed it because there aren’t any engineers and physicists writing letters to Tall Bldgs Monthly expressing their incredulity.
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No ? None whatsoever?.
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Okay. I didn’t know that.

]]> By: wbb http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155297 wbb Thu, 14 May 2009 06:24:06 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155297 "The entire building didn’t contain enough energy to melt steel." The US govt FEMA study said the steel <b>didn't</b> melt - it just softened enuff for the structure to weaken and for the floors to fall. “The entire building didn’t contain enough energy to melt steel.”

The US govt FEMA study said the steel didn’t melt – it just softened enuff for the structure to weaken and for the floors to fall.

]]> By: Paul Burns http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155296 Paul Burns Thu, 14 May 2009 06:03:23 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155296 I thought it had something to do with the peculiar construction of the WTC. Not long after the event I saw an interesting doco on I think, SBS that went into incredible detail as to how and why it happened the way it did.To suppose it was anything other than the planes crashing into the Twin Towers would need one to supose the place was wired with explosives/detonators inside and outside and timed to go off after the p[lanes flown by God knows who, hit. IMHO, that couldn't have been done without somebody noticing. I thought it had something to do with the peculiar construction of the WTC. Not long after the event I saw an interesting doco on I think, SBS that went into incredible detail as to how and why it happened the way it did.To suppose it was anything other than the planes crashing into the Twin Towers would need one to supose the place was wired with explosives/detonators inside and outside and timed to go off after the p[lanes flown by God knows who, hit. IMHO, that couldn’t have been done without somebody noticing.

]]> By: wbb http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155295 wbb Thu, 14 May 2009 06:00:42 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155295 We've swallowed it because there aren't any engineers and physicists writing letters to Tall Bldgs Monthly expressing their incredulity. The only US govt conspiracy started after the bldgs collapsed. And the ppl of Iraq suffered for it. We’ve swallowed it because there aren’t any engineers and physicists writing letters to Tall Bldgs Monthly expressing their incredulity.

The only US govt conspiracy started after the bldgs collapsed. And the ppl of Iraq suffered for it.

]]> By: Adrien http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155294 Adrien Thu, 14 May 2009 05:39:03 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155294 <i>The planes didn’t bring the energy to melt the steel </i> . The entire building didn't contain enough energy to melt steel. Another anomaly: the molten metal at ground zero was not steel said the report. It wasn't hot enough to melt steel says the report. No. It was the aluminium from the planes. . But aluminium doesn't glow orange-hot when molten, steel does. And what colour was that molten metal? . But anyway: Do an experiment. Put a wire in a vice so it stands straight up. Apply a torch to that wire about 2/3 up. It will buckle. What it won't do is stand up until the whole thing's melted and then fall straight down. The section above the heat will twist away and fall first. . Thing is the report might be right. I'm quite skeptical but to really understand the issues you have to be a physicist. My point is that very few understand it, there's a legitimate objection which can't be explained by anyone who doesn't disappear into Jargon Country. . And yet we've all swallowed it like castor oil. The planes didn’t bring the energy to melt the steel
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The entire building didn’t contain enough energy to melt steel. Another anomaly: the molten metal at ground zero was not steel said the report. It wasn’t hot enough to melt steel says the report. No. It was the aluminium from the planes.
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But aluminium doesn’t glow orange-hot when molten, steel does. And what colour was that molten metal?
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But anyway: Do an experiment. Put a wire in a vice so it stands straight up. Apply a torch to that wire about 2/3 up. It will buckle. What it won’t do is stand up until the whole thing’s melted and then fall straight down. The section above the heat will twist away and fall first.
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Thing is the report might be right. I’m quite skeptical but to really understand the issues you have to be a physicist. My point is that very few understand it, there’s a legitimate objection which can’t be explained by anyone who doesn’t disappear into Jargon Country.
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And yet we’ve all swallowed it like castor oil.

]]> By: wbb http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155293 wbb Thu, 14 May 2009 05:22:28 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155293 "Buildings don’t fall straight down unless they’re rigged to do so." If they can be rigged to do so - then they can be built to do so. The planes didn't bring the energy to melt the steel - the planes were the matches that lit the inferno which released the energy reqd to soften the metal. Once a couple of floors were detached from the perimeter columns gravity did the rest. Gravity does its best work in a straight line. Usually downwards. “Buildings don’t fall straight down unless they’re rigged to do so.”

If they can be rigged to do so – then they can be built to do so. The planes didn’t bring the energy to melt the steel – the planes were the matches that lit the inferno which released the energy reqd to soften the metal. Once a couple of floors were detached from the perimeter columns gravity did the rest. Gravity does its best work in a straight line. Usually downwards.

]]> By: adrian http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155292 adrian Thu, 14 May 2009 05:11:13 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155292 Adrien's got a point, particularly about the limits of what is acceptable and not accemptable thought. You could argue that these limits are growing narrower all the time. Adrien’s got a point, particularly about the limits of what is acceptable and not accemptable thought. You could argue that these limits are growing narrower all the time.

]]> By: Adrien http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155291 Adrien Thu, 14 May 2009 05:02:20 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155291 WBB - That's pedantic. You know what mean. Please read the third para at #74. If you can explain the freefall in your own words, and if you understand it you should be able to, then please... . But buildings don’t fall straight down unless they're rigged to do so. Better? WBB – That’s pedantic. You know what mean. Please read the third para at #74. If you can explain the freefall in your own words, and if you understand it you should be able to, then please…
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But buildings don’t fall straight down unless they’re rigged to do so. Better?

]]> By: wbb http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155290 wbb Thu, 14 May 2009 04:56:38 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/08/murdoch-the-current-days-of-the-internet-will-soon-be-over/#comment-155290 <blockquote>But buildings don’t fall straight down.</blockquote> But they did. So why say they don't?

But buildings don’t fall straight down.

But they did. So why say they don’t?

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