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	<title>Comments on: Budget night: It&#039;s coming!</title>
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		<title>By: Labor Outsider</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/11/budget-night-its-coming/#comment-155934</link>
		<dc:creator>Labor Outsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 13:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam

I know enough people within the official family to know that the forecasts were politicised.

Just because the Australian system of government is different, does not proclude a CBO type of institutions being set up. The legislature still has to vote on issues relating to the budget and policies with broader fiscal consequences and the non-government parties simply don&#039;t have the resources to indepently assess complicated issues. The public is at an even worse informational disadvantage.

Of course, an independent fiscal authority is an alternative way to go about things. But I don&#039;t think the RBA is the best example, unless you want the institution to actually make fiscal policy decisions (as per Nicholas Gruen&#039;s proposal). I&#039;d rather an institution modelled on the Productivey Commission with the mandate to assess the overall sustainability of Australia&#039;s fiscal position, review the long-term fiscal implications of individual policies, and independently assess the costing of the parties&#039; promises during elections.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam</p>
<p>I know enough people within the official family to know that the forecasts were politicised.</p>
<p>Just because the Australian system of government is different, does not proclude a CBO type of institutions being set up. The legislature still has to vote on issues relating to the budget and policies with broader fiscal consequences and the non-government parties simply don&#8217;t have the resources to indepently assess complicated issues. The public is at an even worse informational disadvantage.</p>
<p>Of course, an independent fiscal authority is an alternative way to go about things. But I don&#8217;t think the RBA is the best example, unless you want the institution to actually make fiscal policy decisions (as per Nicholas Gruen&#8217;s proposal). I&#8217;d rather an institution modelled on the Productivey Commission with the mandate to assess the overall sustainability of Australia&#8217;s fiscal position, review the long-term fiscal implications of individual policies, and independently assess the costing of the parties&#8217; promises during elections.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/11/budget-night-its-coming/#comment-155933</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I know they don’t believe their own forecasts for 4%+ growth in the out years&lt;/blockquote&gt;

How do you know LO? Did someone there tell you?

The CBO os there to advise Congress, which has a separate but equal role to the Administration in the Budget. In the US, the Reps, the Senate and the Administration each put up their own Budget, and a compromise gets stitched together.

We have a completely different system of government and our Parliament has a different role altogether. You either have a Westminster system of government or you don&#039;t. You can&#039;t cherry pick bits of other systems and graft them on.

If we&#039;re going to radically revamp fiscal policy, a better idea would have to have an independent fiscal authority, like the Reserve Bank. That at least would not bastardise our system of government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I know they don’t believe their own forecasts for 4%+ growth in the out years</p></blockquote>
<p>How do you know LO? Did someone there tell you?</p>
<p>The CBO os there to advise Congress, which has a separate but equal role to the Administration in the Budget. In the US, the Reps, the Senate and the Administration each put up their own Budget, and a compromise gets stitched together.</p>
<p>We have a completely different system of government and our Parliament has a different role altogether. You either have a Westminster system of government or you don&#8217;t. You can&#8217;t cherry pick bits of other systems and graft them on.</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re going to radically revamp fiscal policy, a better idea would have to have an independent fiscal authority, like the Reserve Bank. That at least would not bastardise our system of government.</p>
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		<title>By: Labor Outsider</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/11/budget-night-its-coming/#comment-155932</link>
		<dc:creator>Labor Outsider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 12:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The coalition&#039;s proposal for a Parliamentary Budget Office is a good one. In the run-up to the last election a similar proposal was put to the senior ALP shadows, but Swan and Tanner rejected it because they didn&#039;t want an independent body reviewing the long-term fiscal implications of government policy decisions. The CBO does exceptional work in the US and given the politicisation of Treasury (I know they don&#039;t believe their own forecasts for 4%+ growth in the out years), such an institution could make an enormous contribution to improving the quality of the fiscal policy debate in Australia. I will be interested in hearing the government&#039;s response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The coalition&#8217;s proposal for a Parliamentary Budget Office is a good one. In the run-up to the last election a similar proposal was put to the senior ALP shadows, but Swan and Tanner rejected it because they didn&#8217;t want an independent body reviewing the long-term fiscal implications of government policy decisions. The CBO does exceptional work in the US and given the politicisation of Treasury (I know they don&#8217;t believe their own forecasts for 4%+ growth in the out years), such an institution could make an enormous contribution to improving the quality of the fiscal policy debate in Australia. I will be interested in hearing the government&#8217;s response.</p>
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		<title>By: Razor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 11:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turnbull just tore Rudd and Swan new orifices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turnbull just tore Rudd and Swan new orifices.</p>
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		<title>By: Ginja</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/11/budget-night-its-coming/#comment-155930</link>
		<dc:creator>Ginja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 13:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Razor - Turnbull is in favour of, what, $20 bil. less debt than Labor.  Just means the economy would be that much more in the hole, without much difference to the deficit.  I heard an economist tonight say the average public debt levels for the OECD could be around 70-80%.  Ours is headed for a whopping 14%.

Voted out just as the world economy nosedived (after cornering Labor into matching their boom-time tax cuts that will make the deficit much larger) - typical of the LPA.

Reckless and economically illiterate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Razor &#8211; Turnbull is in favour of, what, $20 bil. less debt than Labor.  Just means the economy would be that much more in the hole, without much difference to the deficit.  I heard an economist tonight say the average public debt levels for the OECD could be around 70-80%.  Ours is headed for a whopping 14%.</p>
<p>Voted out just as the world economy nosedived (after cornering Labor into matching their boom-time tax cuts that will make the deficit much larger) &#8211; typical of the LPA.</p>
<p>Reckless and economically illiterate.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 08:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BilB, tax slug finally updated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BilB, tax slug finally updated.</p>
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		<title>By: Razor</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/11/budget-night-its-coming/#comment-155928</link>
		<dc:creator>Razor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 11:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it wasn&#039;t so bad I&#039;d have thought it was a joke.

Tough - about as tough as the skin on an egg custard.

Debt for decades to come - typical of the ALP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it wasn&#8217;t so bad I&#8217;d have thought it was a joke.</p>
<p>Tough &#8211; about as tough as the skin on an egg custard.</p>
<p>Debt for decades to come &#8211; typical of the ALP.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/11/budget-night-its-coming/#comment-155927</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 10:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, something for everybody and the kids will pay for it later, which is what kids are for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, something for everybody and the kids will pay for it later, which is what kids are for.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/11/budget-night-its-coming/#comment-155926</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 10:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DeeCee @ 11am: wow. Now I truly am hungry and my stir fried blue eyed cod seems ordinary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DeeCee @ 11am: wow. Now I truly am hungry and my stir fried blue eyed cod seems ordinary.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 10:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of making myself sick I am using the Seinfeld line because for once it is pertinent. This was the Seinfeld budget. It was a nothing budget.

And here we are. Total gutlessness on an ETS and Climate Change + THIS budget = the odd 1% swing this government needs to actually lose Government. Let the pollster begin. They&#039;re legacy? An historic apology, an intital will to tackle climate change with the signing of the Kyoto Protcol and then the biggest dissapointment in Australian political history...this government today.

Happy days with Emo Man The II...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of making myself sick I am using the Seinfeld line because for once it is pertinent. This was the Seinfeld budget. It was a nothing budget.</p>
<p>And here we are. Total gutlessness on an ETS and Climate Change + THIS budget = the odd 1% swing this government needs to actually lose Government. Let the pollster begin. They&#8217;re legacy? An historic apology, an intital will to tackle climate change with the signing of the Kyoto Protcol and then the biggest dissapointment in Australian political history&#8230;this government today.</p>
<p>Happy days with Emo Man The II&#8230;</p>
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