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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/16/saturday-salon-191/#comment-156883</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 08:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe, maybe not. All I&#039;m saying is that we need evidence of widespread drug use before we label the NRL players that way. Catching Maitua leaves us none the wiser.

He was caught by a routine test conducted by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority. What I&#039;d like to know is the pattern of tests that currently applies. In 2007 &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2007/s2020314.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Gallop was interviewed by Tony Eastley&lt;/a&gt; about Andrew Johns&#039; drug taking. We are led to believe that Johns was tested 17 times, he knew he was playing Russian roulette but slipped through, that there is now a uniform policy across the clubs and the chances of being caught are greater.

Catching one bloke might mean there was only one miscreant and he was caught. It could mean that the testing regime is still too loose and he was unlucky to be caught.

I&#039;ve heard tennis players complaining about the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.asada.gov.au/control/whereabouts/requirements.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whereabouts notification procedures.&lt;/a&gt; I&#039;d be surprised if the NRL players are similarly inconvenienced, but I just don&#039;t know what the regime is. Until I do I don&#039;t need to make guesses about it so I won&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe, maybe not. All I&#8217;m saying is that we need evidence of widespread drug use before we label the NRL players that way. Catching Maitua leaves us none the wiser.</p>
<p>He was caught by a routine test conducted by the Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority. What I&#8217;d like to know is the pattern of tests that currently applies. In 2007 <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2007/s2020314.htm" rel="nofollow">David Gallop was interviewed by Tony Eastley</a> about Andrew Johns&#8217; drug taking. We are led to believe that Johns was tested 17 times, he knew he was playing Russian roulette but slipped through, that there is now a uniform policy across the clubs and the chances of being caught are greater.</p>
<p>Catching one bloke might mean there was only one miscreant and he was caught. It could mean that the testing regime is still too loose and he was unlucky to be caught.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard tennis players complaining about the <a href="http://www.asada.gov.au/control/whereabouts/requirements.htm" rel="nofollow">whereabouts notification procedures.</a> I&#8217;d be surprised if the NRL players are similarly inconvenienced, but I just don&#8217;t know what the regime is. Until I do I don&#8217;t need to make guesses about it so I won&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/16/saturday-salon-191/#comment-156882</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 04:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...I would have loved to have been the subeditor who got away with that headline, though. &quot;Bras&#039; support&quot; indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;I would have loved to have been the subeditor who got away with that headline, though. &#8220;Bras&#8217; support&#8221; indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/16/saturday-salon-191/#comment-156881</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 04:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;d agree with Laura. Steroid use is far from unusual where sport is concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I&#8217;d agree with Laura. Steroid use is far from unusual where sport is concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/16/saturday-salon-191/#comment-156880</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He probably isn&#039;t Brian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He probably isn&#8217;t Brian.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/16/saturday-salon-191/#comment-156879</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Laura, he probably is, but who&#039;s to know? The press I&#039;ve read suggests his career is probably over. You&#039;d have to be particularly stupid to go down that road.

But he doesn&#039;t appear to be blessed with a lot of sense. A few years ago he was convicted of occasioning actual bodily harm for kicking a policeman in the head. When at the Bulldogs, according to the Courier mail, he &quot;continually blew it, either turning up to training intoxicated - or not turning up at all.&quot;

He was said to be a particularly gifted and versatile footballer. He suffered significant ankle ligament damage in his one test for NZ in 2006. At age 27, he was probably on a last chance to rebuild his career. Assuming the sample B is positive, who is going to give him a run in two years time with the public focus on RL player behaviour and sponsors demanding a cleanup?

He started out as an apprentice plumber. Maybe he can revive that career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Laura, he probably is, but who&#8217;s to know? The press I&#8217;ve read suggests his career is probably over. You&#8217;d have to be particularly stupid to go down that road.</p>
<p>But he doesn&#8217;t appear to be blessed with a lot of sense. A few years ago he was convicted of occasioning actual bodily harm for kicking a policeman in the head. When at the Bulldogs, according to the Courier mail, he &#8220;continually blew it, either turning up to training intoxicated &#8211; or not turning up at all.&#8221;</p>
<p>He was said to be a particularly gifted and versatile footballer. He suffered significant ankle ligament damage in his one test for NZ in 2006. At age 27, he was probably on a last chance to rebuild his career. Assuming the sample B is positive, who is going to give him a run in two years time with the public focus on RL player behaviour and sponsors demanding a cleanup?</p>
<p>He started out as an apprentice plumber. Maybe he can revive that career.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re my comment #12 where the observation that women could play rugby league by taking the same drugs the men take was later challenged, I guess &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/sutton-hopes-bras-support-will-lift-maitua/2009/05/21/1242498869002.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this poor man&lt;/a&gt; is an isolated case....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re my comment #12 where the observation that women could play rugby league by taking the same drugs the men take was later challenged, I guess <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/sutton-hopes-bras-support-will-lift-maitua/2009/05/21/1242498869002.html" rel="nofollow">this poor man</a> is an isolated case&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:12:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just love the way Miranda misses the point completely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just love the way Miranda misses the point completely.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/16/saturday-salon-191/#comment-156876</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mean Devil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean Devil.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/05/16/saturday-salon-191/#comment-156875</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 04:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reasons to love Miranda No. 2456

&quot;As the mother of two junior rugby forwards, the wife of a former prop and daughter of a one-time flanker, it is time for me to come to the defence of violent sports and the men who play them.&quot;

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/natural-men-scolded-into-timidity-20090520-bfn3.html

Campari, Devid Drink. Campari.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reasons to love Miranda No. 2456</p>
<p>&#8220;As the mother of two junior rugby forwards, the wife of a former prop and daughter of a one-time flanker, it is time for me to come to the defence of violent sports and the men who play them.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/natural-men-scolded-into-timidity-20090520-bfn3.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/natural-men-scolded-into-timidity-20090520-bfn3.html</a></p>
<p>Campari, Devid Drink. Campari.</p>
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		<title>By: Haiku, anyone?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Haiku, anyone?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 12:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the lovers of the art,
I present this link
http://13.media.tumblr.com/GZbqLZ3AXjukb4n6IYrha3Olo1_500.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the lovers of the art,<br />
I present this link<br />
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