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		<title>By: Vee</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-791236</link>
		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 02:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m having trouble trying to find the phrase to take offence at:  All his descriptions of the popular blogs are fairly accurate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m having trouble trying to find the phrase to take offence at:  All his descriptions of the popular blogs are fairly accurate.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-788597</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, Fyodor&#039;s right - its all about the breadth of the comment Church. And the enstoushment opportunities. And above all, those who are just trying to make it through, in good jesting company. Thats the the LP recipe!

Let&#039;s face it, we&#039;re all just over-evolved apes trying to impose form on a meaningless vortex of noise.  But some of us are looking at the stars!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, Fyodor&#8217;s right &#8211; its all about the breadth of the comment Church. And the enstoushment opportunities. And above all, those who are just trying to make it through, in good jesting company. Thats the the LP recipe!</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it, we&#8217;re all just over-evolved apes trying to impose form on a meaningless vortex of noise.  But some of us are looking at the stars!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Hodgson</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-788530</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Hodgson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve #60

This thread is probably dead by now but:

&quot;The only problem with your post Paul Hodgson (#50) is Crikey didn’t hire Scott and William to replace Christian, they hired Bernard Keane, who is rubbish&quot;

Where did I say that Crikey replaced Christian with Scott and William?  And contrary to you, I think that Bernard Keane is NOT rubbish.  I DO think that Christian Kerr was, is, and will always remain rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve #60</p>
<p>This thread is probably dead by now but:</p>
<p>&#8220;The only problem with your post Paul Hodgson (#50) is Crikey didn’t hire Scott and William to replace Christian, they hired Bernard Keane, who is rubbish&#8221;</p>
<p>Where did I say that Crikey replaced Christian with Scott and William?  And contrary to you, I think that Bernard Keane is NOT rubbish.  I DO think that Christian Kerr was, is, and will always remain rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Nickws</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-788420</link>
		<dc:creator>Nickws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t need you to tell me how good my coffee is.  I&#039;m the one who buys it, I know how fuckin&#039; good it is.  When Hilary Bray goes shoppin&#039;, she buys shit.  I buy the gourmet expensive stuff &#039;cause when I drink it, I wanna taste it.  But what&#039;s on mind at this moment isn&#039;t the coffee in my kitchen.

It&#039;s the pointlessness of threads about lipsnigers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t need you to tell me how good my coffee is.  I&#8217;m the one who buys it, I know how fuckin&#8217; good it is.  When Hilary Bray goes shoppin&#8217;, she buys shit.  I buy the gourmet expensive stuff &#8217;cause when I drink it, I wanna taste it.  But what&#8217;s on mind at this moment isn&#8217;t the coffee in my kitchen.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the pointlessness of threads about lipsnigers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mercurius</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-788027</link>
		<dc:creator>Mercurius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Now how about a chorus of ‘Somalian Pirates We’&lt;/blockquote&gt;

...duck?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Now how about a chorus of ‘Somalian Pirates We’</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8230;duck?</p>
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		<title>By: TimT</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-787944</link>
		<dc:creator>TimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It all seems fairly mild to me - from what I read of that Kerr quote he&#039;s just making an observation about the left-leaning tendency on Larvatus Prodeo. It doesn&#039;t sound like criticism, just classification - albeit a classification by means of cliche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It all seems fairly mild to me &#8211; from what I read of that Kerr quote he&#8217;s just making an observation about the left-leaning tendency on Larvatus Prodeo. It doesn&#8217;t sound like criticism, just classification &#8211; albeit a classification by means of cliche.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-787893</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:03:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt; [by Mark]: &lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/16/analysing-the-anti-analysts-christian-kerr-deconstructed/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The anti-analysts analysed&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Update</b> [by Mark]: <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/16/analysing-the-anti-analysts-christian-kerr-deconstructed/" rel="nofollow">The anti-analysts analysed</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Lulzzlewit</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-787859</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Lulzzlewit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I still think LP is the world-beater for excellence in conversation&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Excellent point. LP&#039;s enduring quality has been the high calibre of the contributors and commenters, and thus their conversation. While I tend to agree with the non-hyperbolic parts of Kerr&#039;s description*, he&#039;s failed miserably in identifying what this blog is about. For mine, it&#039;s not about deep left politics, though perhaps some of the contributors and commenters think so, but about conversation, debate, stoush and lipsnigering over the topics de jour. 

Naturally, the content of posts frames the conversations, as do the ideological biases of contributors and commenters, but, in the end, this joint really hums when it attracts the company of clever, well-informed people who have a great deal of conversation. Now, personally, I&#039;m a little disappointed that weighty matters like reality TV and Princess Mary don&#039;t get the attention they used to, but you play the hand you&#039;re dealt.

* Yes, IMO the tone and content of LP has veered even more leftwards and greeenwards over the past 2-3 years. TINNAGT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I still think LP is the world-beater for excellence in conversation</p></blockquote>
<p>Excellent point. LP&#8217;s enduring quality has been the high calibre of the contributors and commenters, and thus their conversation. While I tend to agree with the non-hyperbolic parts of Kerr&#8217;s description*, he&#8217;s failed miserably in identifying what this blog is about. For mine, it&#8217;s not about deep left politics, though perhaps some of the contributors and commenters think so, but about conversation, debate, stoush and lipsnigering over the topics de jour. </p>
<p>Naturally, the content of posts frames the conversations, as do the ideological biases of contributors and commenters, but, in the end, this joint really hums when it attracts the company of clever, well-informed people who have a great deal of conversation. Now, personally, I&#8217;m a little disappointed that weighty matters like reality TV and Princess Mary don&#8217;t get the attention they used to, but you play the hand you&#8217;re dealt.</p>
<p>* Yes, IMO the tone and content of LP has veered even more leftwards and greeenwards over the past 2-3 years. TINNAGT.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-787810</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;my filing system is shit-and-twigs compared to the mighty archives of a decent hater like Gerard Henderson.&quot;

I was so sure you&#039;d end that sentence with a &#039;C&#039; and an &#039;L&#039;. That you went the Hendo adds to a theory of mine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;my filing system is shit-and-twigs compared to the mighty archives of a decent hater like Gerard Henderson.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was so sure you&#8217;d end that sentence with a &#8216;C&#8217; and an &#8216;L&#8217;. That you went the Hendo adds to a theory of mine&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Well Someone's Got to Do It</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-787779</link>
		<dc:creator>Well Someone's Got to Do It</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 02:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;collective memory of past injustices...&quot;

Q.: What&#039;s the definition of Irish Alzheimer&#039;s?

A.: It&#039;s when you become so old and feeble that you actually forget one or two of your grudges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;collective memory of past injustices&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Q.: What&#8217;s the definition of Irish Alzheimer&#8217;s?</p>
<p>A.: It&#8217;s when you become so old and feeble that you actually forget one or two of your grudges.</p>
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		<title>By: Barnaby Grudge</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-787743</link>
		<dc:creator>Barnaby Grudge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;it’s collective memory of past injustices and the consequent grudges borne&lt;/blockquote&gt;
[sings]: It waved above our infant might/When all ahead was dark as night/It witnessed many a deed and vow/We mustn&#039;t change its colour now/So raise that scarlet standard high, etc.
Thanks Murph. Though I&#039;m far from best-practice in this regard, my filing system is shit-and-twigs compared to the mighty archives of a decent hater like Gerard Henderson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>it’s collective memory of past injustices and the consequent grudges borne</p></blockquote>
<p>[sings]: It waved above our infant might/When all ahead was dark as night/It witnessed many a deed and vow/We mustn&#8217;t change its colour now/So raise that scarlet standard high, etc.<br />
Thanks Murph. Though I&#8217;m far from best-practice in this regard, my filing system is shit-and-twigs compared to the mighty archives of a decent hater like Gerard Henderson.</p>
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		<title>By: Wombo</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-787741</link>
		<dc:creator>Wombo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Definitely not International Roast, that’s socialism by any other name!!&lt;/i&gt;

Rubbish! International Roast is a Deformed Workers&#039; Coffee! No more socialist than the Stalinist tin cans it comes in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Definitely not International Roast, that’s socialism by any other name!!</i></p>
<p>Rubbish! International Roast is a Deformed Workers&#8217; Coffee! No more socialist than the Stalinist tin cans it comes in.</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z (Topiaries Shaped Like Hedges edition)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-787740</link>
		<dc:creator>j_p_z (Topiaries Shaped Like Hedges edition)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FWIW, I think the Ozblogosphere punches well above its weight in comparison to the (well-known part of the) US scene. Can&#039;t say much about the UK though. The notable Oz blogs are thoughtful, well-informed and interested in details, all virtues.  The fact that I think y&#039;all are bonkers a good 40 per cent of the time has no bearing on the sheer quality of the undertaking. 

There&#039;s some excellent US blog-*posting* (but little good thread conversation) coming from the more analytical right-side of US commentary (though increasingly I hate the left/right vocabulary, which is just no longer accurate): folks like Tom Maguire, Sailer, Patterico, Ace of Spades, Powerline and Baseball Crank are parsecs ahead of their &#039;left&#039; counterparts in terms of baseline sanity (though I differ with each on points), but what&#039;s missing in all the US scene, left or right, is the gentle art of conversation. So much more educational than just spewing your talking points. 

I still think LP is the world-beater for excellence in conversation, although sometimes Sailer and Belmont Club threads make a good read for sheer Marat/Sade entertainment value.

Keep up the good work, lasses and laddies, and don&#039;t listen to the sneers of the punditariat.

Now how about a chorus of &#039;Somalian Pirates We&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FWIW, I think the Ozblogosphere punches well above its weight in comparison to the (well-known part of the) US scene. Can&#8217;t say much about the UK though. The notable Oz blogs are thoughtful, well-informed and interested in details, all virtues.  The fact that I think y&#8217;all are bonkers a good 40 per cent of the time has no bearing on the sheer quality of the undertaking. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s some excellent US blog-*posting* (but little good thread conversation) coming from the more analytical right-side of US commentary (though increasingly I hate the left/right vocabulary, which is just no longer accurate): folks like Tom Maguire, Sailer, Patterico, Ace of Spades, Powerline and Baseball Crank are parsecs ahead of their &#8216;left&#8217; counterparts in terms of baseline sanity (though I differ with each on points), but what&#8217;s missing in all the US scene, left or right, is the gentle art of conversation. So much more educational than just spewing your talking points. </p>
<p>I still think LP is the world-beater for excellence in conversation, although sometimes Sailer and Belmont Club threads make a good read for sheer Marat/Sade entertainment value.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work, lasses and laddies, and don&#8217;t listen to the sneers of the punditariat.</p>
<p>Now how about a chorus of &#8216;Somalian Pirates We&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well done, klaus k !!!</description>
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		<title>By: murph the surf.</title>
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		<dc:creator>murph the surf.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...I agree that the really substantial posts here are more often than not those about environment and climate change,....&quot;
No the most substantial quality that LP has is it&#039;s collective memory of past injustices and the consequent grudges borne. 
Yes I mean you Liam .
These memories are a wonderful asset and help frame so many modern conflicts in an insightful manner.
More power to party hacks and Sussex Street!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;I agree that the really substantial posts here are more often than not those about environment and climate change,&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
No the most substantial quality that LP has is it&#8217;s collective memory of past injustices and the consequent grudges borne.<br />
Yes I mean you Liam .<br />
These memories are a wonderful asset and help frame so many modern conflicts in an insightful manner.<br />
More power to party hacks and Sussex Street!</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never trust a man sporting a corkscrew perm.</description>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-787626</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;But, geez, I find the characterization as a member of the “fair-trade, rainforest alliance-certified, decaff and soy brigade” quite insulting.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Of course. You were &lt;i&gt;supposed&lt;/i&gt; to feel insulted, and so were the people to whom those terms actually do apply. But I think Kerr is just giving the readership what he thinks they want to hear and never mind the facts. I agree that the really substantial posts here are more often than not those about environment and climate change, but don&#039;t forget that Kerr was and remains an almost hysterical denialist. It&#039;s very unlikely that he reads them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But, geez, I find the characterization as a member of the “fair-trade, rainforest alliance-certified, decaff and soy brigade” quite insulting.</p></blockquote>
<p>Of course. You were <i>supposed</i> to feel insulted, and so were the people to whom those terms actually do apply. But I think Kerr is just giving the readership what he thinks they want to hear and never mind the facts. I agree that the really substantial posts here are more often than not those about environment and climate change, but don&#8217;t forget that Kerr was and remains an almost hysterical denialist. It&#8217;s very unlikely that he reads them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He could at least give LP credit for Australia&#039;s longest running Missy Higgins thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He could at least give LP credit for Australia&#8217;s longest running Missy Higgins thread.</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/15/sand-in-your-shorts/comment-page-2/#comment-787526</link>
		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, I&#039;ve been away from these parts of the tubes for ages and I&#039;m back reading just a couple of threads and there&#039;s already lipsniggering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, I&#8217;ve been away from these parts of the tubes for ages and I&#8217;m back reading just a couple of threads and there&#8217;s already lipsniggering.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 00:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could it be yet another incarnation of the &#039;slime?</description>
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