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	<title>Comments on: &quot;Malcolm Turnbull is the Coalition&#039;s Mark Latham&quot;</title>
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		<title>By: David Irving (no relation)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/23/malcolm-turnbull-is-the-coalitions-mark-latham/#comment-152465</link>
		<dc:creator>David Irving (no relation)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 22:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think &lt;em&gt;you&#039;re&lt;/em&gt; being superficial, Ambigulous, it&#039;s the fuckers in Parliament and the clowns in the Press Gallery that annoy me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think <em>you&#8217;re</em> being superficial, Ambigulous, it&#8217;s the fuckers in Parliament and the clowns in the Press Gallery that annoy me.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 20:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right David (I, n r).

I apologise for my superficiality. It would be preferable to have sound policies, serious reform, cogent reasoning,....  but I admit I&#039;m always on the look out for guffaws. How shallow.

Politics-as-tennis is an excellent description. Australian-politics-as-usual. No panache, no subtlety, no strategic worldview??

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OT footnote: a friend told me that when the North Vietnamese forces were sweeping south in the final push that led to their victory, circa April 1975; with tens of thousands of terrified civilians fleeing; rout, despair and mayhem; he was struck by his colleagues&#039; attitudes. &quot;They were barracking as if it was a footy match! People were losing their lives, their homes, but Aussies were cheering on the progress of the battles!&quot; Something deeper and more universal going on? Group loyalties and satisfaction at seeing ignominy, whatever the (human) costs??

cheerio, cobber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right David (I, n r).</p>
<p>I apologise for my superficiality. It would be preferable to have sound policies, serious reform, cogent reasoning,&#8230;.  but I admit I&#8217;m always on the look out for guffaws. How shallow.</p>
<p>Politics-as-tennis is an excellent description. Australian-politics-as-usual. No panache, no subtlety, no strategic worldview??</p>
<p>*************</p>
<p>OT footnote: a friend told me that when the North Vietnamese forces were sweeping south in the final push that led to their victory, circa April 1975; with tens of thousands of terrified civilians fleeing; rout, despair and mayhem; he was struck by his colleagues&#8217; attitudes. &#8220;They were barracking as if it was a footy match! People were losing their lives, their homes, but Aussies were cheering on the progress of the battles!&#8221; Something deeper and more universal going on? Group loyalties and satisfaction at seeing ignominy, whatever the (human) costs??</p>
<p>cheerio, cobber.</p>
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		<title>By: David Irving (no relation)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/23/malcolm-turnbull-is-the-coalitions-mark-latham/#comment-152463</link>
		<dc:creator>David Irving (no relation)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s certainly highly amusing, Ambigulous, but it&#039;s still a pity that we have politics-as-tennis. I&#039;d hoped for better from this mob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s certainly highly amusing, Ambigulous, but it&#8217;s still a pity that we have politics-as-tennis. I&#8217;d hoped for better from this mob.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/23/malcolm-turnbull-is-the-coalitions-mark-latham/#comment-152462</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 13:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another quibble with &lt;em&gt;Australian Story&lt;/em&gt; on Monday 3rd August. It quoted briefly a journalist who said, now that Malcolm has had his ute moment, the Govt will flay him with his past record (in business, law....).

They may well do so, but they actually launched a concerted attack of this type in Parlt. several days before Mr Grech&#039;s Senate testimony. IIRC it began the day after Peter Co$tello said he&#039;d not contest Higgins. It seemed the ammunition had been stored up for that very day, and the attack rehearsed.

It didn&#039;t require Godwin.

Today Messrs Rudd &amp; Swan said they had more pressing matters of national importance to deal with, than mentioning a floundering Mr Turnbull. They could scarcely control their mirth, as they played the unruffled statesman.

Comedy gold! Yes, it&#039;s gold, gold, GOLD for Australia!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another quibble with <em>Australian Story</em> on Monday 3rd August. It quoted briefly a journalist who said, now that Malcolm has had his ute moment, the Govt will flay him with his past record (in business, law&#8230;.).</p>
<p>They may well do so, but they actually launched a concerted attack of this type in Parlt. several days before Mr Grech&#8217;s Senate testimony. IIRC it began the day after Peter Co$tello said he&#8217;d not contest Higgins. It seemed the ammunition had been stored up for that very day, and the attack rehearsed.</p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t require Godwin.</p>
<p>Today Messrs Rudd &amp; Swan said they had more pressing matters of national importance to deal with, than mentioning a floundering Mr Turnbull. They could scarcely control their mirth, as they played the unruffled statesman.</p>
<p>Comedy gold! Yes, it&#8217;s gold, gold, GOLD for Australia!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post:

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/08/04/utegate-open-thread/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New post:</p>
<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/08/04/utegate-open-thread/" rel="nofollow">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/08/04/utegate-open-thread/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to interviewing Grech in a psych ward - it maybe that he had counsel that it was better for him to get in first before the Auditor- General&#039;s report. It&#039;s not necessarilty a case of a journo lurking around and exploiting him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to interviewing Grech in a psych ward &#8211; it maybe that he had counsel that it was better for him to get in first before the Auditor- General&#8217;s report. It&#8217;s not necessarilty a case of a journo lurking around and exploiting him.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The full story will probably emerge from Mr Grech himself. I would imagine the deal will be that if he tells all about his leaking, he will be allowed to resign quietly from the public service, and not prosecuted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The full story will probably emerge from Mr Grech himself. I would imagine the deal will be that if he tells all about his leaking, he will be allowed to resign quietly from the public service, and not prosecuted.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fielding really is the enemy of accountability and good governance, isnt he.

Vic ALP - hang your sorry, bumbling heads in shame. And for pity&#039;s sake, try to learn from your error.

Bring on the 3rd wave of democratic electoral reform - lets abolish Australian hackocracy. Give unelected hacks no say in our votes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fielding really is the enemy of accountability and good governance, isnt he.</p>
<p>Vic ALP &#8211; hang your sorry, bumbling heads in shame. And for pity&#8217;s sake, try to learn from your error.</p>
<p>Bring on the 3rd wave of democratic electoral reform &#8211; lets abolish Australian hackocracy. Give unelected hacks no say in our votes!</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Turnbull is a risk taker, to be sure, but surely not even he would run with an email he knew was a fake.&quot;

We will not know for sure because Fielding and The Liberals closed down a proposed Senate investigation into what lead up to Gretch giving evidence.

Something still looks very smelly and it is not a good look to have wanted to close down that means of checking it when they so enthusiastically endorsed it in their own failed fishing expedition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Turnbull is a risk taker, to be sure, but surely not even he would run with an email he knew was a fake.&#8221;</p>
<p>We will not know for sure because Fielding and The Liberals closed down a proposed Senate investigation into what lead up to Gretch giving evidence.</p>
<p>Something still looks very smelly and it is not a good look to have wanted to close down that means of checking it when they so enthusiastically endorsed it in their own failed fishing expedition.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 01:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, thats my view also. Talcum aint coming back from here.

His only hope of hanging on is that the Libs realise 2010 is a dead loss anyway, and they might as well sacrifice a goat rather than a potential 2013 winner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, thats my view also. Talcum aint coming back from here.</p>
<p>His only hope of hanging on is that the Libs realise 2010 is a dead loss anyway, and they might as well sacrifice a goat rather than a potential 2013 winner.</p>
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