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	<title>Comments on: Utegate: That went well, then&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New post:

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/08/04/utegate-open-thread/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New post:</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 02:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think so Ambigulous@105. I heard a media star continue to wonder why Kevin &quot;the multi&quot; would have taken such a gift as that ute just the other day. That it was clearly reported and acceptable (as would, the value of the ute, given as a reported cash equivalent gift) by existing parliamentary standards, apparently does not come into the matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think so Ambigulous@105. I heard a media star continue to wonder why Kevin &#8220;the multi&#8221; would have taken such a gift as that ute just the other day. That it was clearly reported and acceptable (as would, the value of the ute, given as a reported cash equivalent gift) by existing parliamentary standards, apparently does not come into the matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the &lt;strong&gt; ute &lt;/strong&gt; I feel for in all of this.

It&#039;s not an exaggeration to say it&#039;s disappeared from the media narrative. Why is that? The ute has feelings too!

But no, in the Gadarene rush to apportion blame, sift motives, establish mere &quot;facts&quot;, the Forgotten Ute stands alone and sorry.

This isn&#039;t just due to the ongoing (and invisible) sedanarchy. It goes much deeper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the <strong> ute </strong> I feel for in all of this.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not an exaggeration to say it&#8217;s disappeared from the media narrative. Why is that? The ute has feelings too!</p>
<p>But no, in the Gadarene rush to apportion blame, sift motives, establish mere &#8220;facts&#8221;, the Forgotten Ute stands alone and sorry.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t just due to the ongoing (and invisible) sedanarchy. It goes much deeper.</p>
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		<title>By: andyc</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Tanya&lt;/b&gt; @102: re. Abetz. Indeed. Howard&#039;s Special Minister for Head-Kicking, and possibly still active as such? PLEEASE can we have his head over this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Tanya</b> @102: re. Abetz. Indeed. Howard&#8217;s Special Minister for Head-Kicking, and possibly still active as such? PLEEASE can we have his head over this!</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Godwin Grech has fessed up to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/08/04/2645022.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;writing the faked Utegate email&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Godwin Grech has fessed up to <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/08/04/2645022.htm" rel="nofollow">writing the faked Utegate email</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the most interesting things about this crazy affair is the more public role of Eric Abetz.  Normally, he stays in the back rooms.  Why oh why do Tasmanians keep voting for him?  It can&#039;t be that they&#039;ve ever met him because if they had they&#039;d recognise him as the evil little creep from school who had no friends because his favorite activity was picking his nose and wiping it on others (sorry for the repulsive image but ...).  It would be good to see a thorough analysis of his record.  Skin crawling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the most interesting things about this crazy affair is the more public role of Eric Abetz.  Normally, he stays in the back rooms.  Why oh why do Tasmanians keep voting for him?  It can&#8217;t be that they&#8217;ve ever met him because if they had they&#8217;d recognise him as the evil little creep from school who had no friends because his favorite activity was picking his nose and wiping it on others (sorry for the repulsive image but &#8230;).  It would be good to see a thorough analysis of his record.  Skin crawling.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 10:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course, Mark.

My earlier point about Turnbull was that it&#039;s not possible to have achieved all he has by being on the front foot all the time. I know people who&#039;ve worked with Turnbull and been burned, so I&#039;m not being starry-eyed - but quite simply if he had been as egocentric and bullying as legend has it, he&#039;d at least be told to piss off by the great and good, if not be fish-food at the bottom of Sydney Harbour somewhere.

I think there are parallels between Turnbull&#039;s courting of the well-heeled during the &#039;80s and &#039;90s and the same by Hawke in the late &#039;70s. If I had made the exodus all the way across the political spectrum I&#039;d point out that Hawke&#039;s Prime Ministership saw union membership plummet and social inequality skyrocket to levels from which they have not recovered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, Mark.</p>
<p>My earlier point about Turnbull was that it&#8217;s not possible to have achieved all he has by being on the front foot all the time. I know people who&#8217;ve worked with Turnbull and been burned, so I&#8217;m not being starry-eyed &#8211; but quite simply if he had been as egocentric and bullying as legend has it, he&#8217;d at least be told to piss off by the great and good, if not be fish-food at the bottom of Sydney Harbour somewhere.</p>
<p>I think there are parallels between Turnbull&#8217;s courting of the well-heeled during the &#8217;80s and &#8217;90s and the same by Hawke in the late &#8217;70s. If I had made the exodus all the way across the political spectrum I&#8217;d point out that Hawke&#8217;s Prime Ministership saw union membership plummet and social inequality skyrocket to levels from which they have not recovered.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pshaw! It was like hitting Rudd with a wet lettuce. But at least he&#039;s telling people how incompetent the meedja is. Though I think it&#039;ll take a while for them to get the message, that unless they&#039;re the Chaser Boys, they ain&#039;t players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pshaw! It was like hitting Rudd with a wet lettuce. But at least he&#8217;s telling people how incompetent the meedja is. Though I think it&#8217;ll take a while for them to get the message, that unless they&#8217;re the Chaser Boys, they ain&#8217;t players.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very interesting because it shows that the two most senior figures in the Government are willing to take on News Ltd about their partisan political coverage. Maybe they think that it can&#039;t get any worse, as they&#039;ve thrown everything that they possibly can at Rudd, and the only damage thus far is to their own credibility.

I really don&#039;t think that they understand the extent to which the game has changed as the slide ever deeper into irrelevancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very interesting because it shows that the two most senior figures in the Government are willing to take on News Ltd about their partisan political coverage. Maybe they think that it can&#8217;t get any worse, as they&#8217;ve thrown everything that they possibly can at Rudd, and the only damage thus far is to their own credibility.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think that they understand the extent to which the game has changed as the slide ever deeper into irrelevancy.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s more.

Madonna King, an Aunty &quot;personality&quot;, who I believe is the wife of the editor of The Courier Mail, unless he left that job, took the axe to Rudd demanding to know if he would sell his ute.

Esteemed journalist Christian Kerr reported on the matter under the headline ....
&quot;Kevin Rudd ducks questions on loaned ute, rants at media over coverage&quot;

It is worthy of a link because the longish quotes, actually given by Kerr, show Rudd did no such thing on both counts. Apparently he is not meant to question the media role in utegate or explain that the ute was well and truly officially declared. Kerr does not, of course, declare King&#039;s connection to the Newscorp owned curious snail that Rudd had in his sights when commenting.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25712433-601,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s more.</p>
<p>Madonna King, an Aunty &#8220;personality&#8221;, who I believe is the wife of the editor of The Courier Mail, unless he left that job, took the axe to Rudd demanding to know if he would sell his ute.</p>
<p>Esteemed journalist Christian Kerr reported on the matter under the headline &#8230;.<br />
&#8220;Kevin Rudd ducks questions on loaned ute, rants at media over coverage&#8221;</p>
<p>It is worthy of a link because the longish quotes, actually given by Kerr, show Rudd did no such thing on both counts. Apparently he is not meant to question the media role in utegate or explain that the ute was well and truly officially declared. Kerr does not, of course, declare King&#8217;s connection to the Newscorp owned curious snail that Rudd had in his sights when commenting.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25712433-601,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25712433-601,00.html</a></p>
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