Comments on: Not a knock out http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 04:16:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: steveh http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/#comment-153303 steveh Wed, 01 Jul 2009 23:47:35 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=8658#comment-153303 Anyone else noticed how this "inward-looking" attititude of the Punch is now being reflected in the ABC radio morning show? (Sydney 702MHz) Michael Brissendon seems to be the only one who doesn't sit in his office reading tea-leaves but instead actually goes out and, well, you know, reports... The Punch is more inward looking than just about any site - and while that may keep the participants happy, as Mark points out - it doesn't bring in the dollars. For opinion pieces that are well thought out I'll head here or to Crikey any day. Anyone else noticed how this “inward-looking” attititude of the Punch is now being reflected in the ABC radio morning show? (Sydney 702MHz) Michael Brissendon seems to be the only one who doesn’t sit in his office reading tea-leaves but instead actually goes out and, well, you know, reports…
The Punch is more inward looking than just about any site – and while that may keep the participants happy, as Mark points out – it doesn’t bring in the dollars.
For opinion pieces that are well thought out I’ll head here or to Crikey any day.

]]> By: Guido http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/#comment-153302 Guido Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:20:24 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=8658#comment-153302 Also some of you may be interested in <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/07/01/john-hartigans-punchy-attack-on-new-media/" rel="nofollow">how Crikey's Bernard Keane</a> saw the address by News Ltd CEO John Hartigan at the National Press Gallery today. Also some of you may be interested in how Crikey’s Bernard Keane saw the address by News Ltd CEO John Hartigan at the National Press Gallery today.

]]> By: Guido http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/#comment-153301 Guido Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:53:37 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=8658#comment-153301 Maybe The Punch may be more interesting now that <a href="http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/well-read-head-how-i-finally-found-my-peeps/" rel="nofollow">Leigh Sales has joined.</a> Maybe The Punch may be more interesting now that Leigh Sales has joined.

]]> By: mick http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/#comment-153300 mick Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:11:56 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=8658#comment-153300 Nicely done Mercurius. Though, what kind of coffee are they drinking? Certainly not lattes. Nicely done Mercurius. Though, what kind of coffee are they drinking? Certainly not lattes.

]]> By: joe2 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/#comment-153299 joe2 Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:23:29 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=8658#comment-153299 "The more interesting issue is why so many people on LP have this obsessive desire to keep writing about bullshit from News Ltd, and linking to their pathetic stories, and generally behaving as if News Ltd pissants like Milne and Lewis and all the rest are important and worthy of attention by intelligent people. That is the true mystery." Come on Ken, let your hair down and do a bit of rubber necking some time. Watch as the empire crumbles. I have a link for you that is not Newscorp, promise.... http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/thanks-so-much-for-your-comments-mr-barking-mad-20090629-d2f4.html?page=-1 “The more interesting issue is why so many people on LP have this obsessive desire to keep writing about bullshit from News Ltd, and linking to their pathetic stories, and generally behaving as if News Ltd pissants like Milne and Lewis and all the rest are important and worthy of attention by intelligent people. That is the true mystery.”

Come on Ken, let your hair down and do a bit of rubber necking some time. Watch as the empire crumbles. I have a link for you that is not Newscorp, promise….
http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/thanks-so-much-for-your-comments-mr-barking-mad-20090629-d2f4.html?page=-1

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/#comment-153298 Mark Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:48:56 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=8658#comment-153298 There's actually a lot worse than the Curious Snail in the News online empire. Dennis Atkins is consistently interesting, and usually doesn't follow the dumb arsed lead of the press pack. There’s actually a lot worse than the Curious Snail in the News online empire. Dennis Atkins is consistently interesting, and usually doesn’t follow the dumb arsed lead of the press pack.

]]> By: Steve http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/#comment-153297 Steve Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:41:07 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=8658#comment-153297 I'll admit I like CJ's blog over at the Curious Snail. Pineapple Politics works. They should make him editor. Beyond that there is no substance behind nor reason to visit a News ltd 'opinion page'. I’ll admit I like CJ’s blog over at the Curious Snail. Pineapple Politics works. They should make him editor. Beyond that there is no substance behind nor reason to visit a News ltd ‘opinion page’.

]]> By: Mercurius http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/#comment-153296 Mercurius Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:03:06 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=8658#comment-153296 Ken, can I just say how much I've enjoyed your rip-roaring comments in recent weeks on media coverage? Heaven knows you've had plenty of material to work with, but you do a nice line in dignified, scathing disdain. Let 'er rip Ken! Ken, can I just say how much I’ve enjoyed your rip-roaring comments in recent weeks on media coverage? Heaven knows you’ve had plenty of material to work with, but you do a nice line in dignified, scathing disdain. Let ‘er rip Ken!

]]> By: Ken Lovell http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/#comment-153295 Ken Lovell Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:45:01 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=8658#comment-153295 I don't subscribe to any News Ltd sites and consequently didn't know what this post was about, so I went and had a quick look. There's a bloke called Marcus Kuczynski who writes posts purporting to summarise what the blogosphere thinks about the big stories du jour. Thing is ... Marcus only ever refers to feedback on MSM sites. He studiously avoids any reference to actual blogs; it's all 'someone wrote this to the Courier Mail while somebody else wrote this to the Herald Sun', with an occasional mention of an ABC site. Either Marcus ignorantly believes columns written by journos on their newspapers' web sites are blogs, or he shamelessly cross-promotes News Ltd web pages under the guise of reviewing blogs. Either way it's just another indication of the organisation's terminal decline. The more interesting issue is why so many people on LP have this obsessive desire to keep writing about bullshit from News Ltd, and linking to their pathetic stories, and generally behaving as if News Ltd pissants like Milne and Lewis and all the rest are important and worthy of attention by intelligent people. That is the true mystery. I don’t subscribe to any News Ltd sites and consequently didn’t know what this post was about, so I went and had a quick look. There’s a bloke called Marcus Kuczynski who writes posts purporting to summarise what the blogosphere thinks about the big stories du jour.

Thing is … Marcus only ever refers to feedback on MSM sites. He studiously avoids any reference to actual blogs; it’s all ‘someone wrote this to the Courier Mail while somebody else wrote this to the Herald Sun’, with an occasional mention of an ABC site.

Either Marcus ignorantly believes columns written by journos on their newspapers’ web sites are blogs, or he shamelessly cross-promotes News Ltd web pages under the guise of reviewing blogs. Either way it’s just another indication of the organisation’s terminal decline.

The more interesting issue is why so many people on LP have this obsessive desire to keep writing about bullshit from News Ltd, and linking to their pathetic stories, and generally behaving as if News Ltd pissants like Milne and Lewis and all the rest are important and worthy of attention by intelligent people. That is the true mystery.

]]> By: DeeCee http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/06/30/not-a-knock-out/#comment-153294 DeeCee Tue, 30 Jun 2009 07:28:02 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=8658#comment-153294 The Punch? Flicked over a few times last week to quiz their utegate/Liberal stuff-uo. Tried to leave a comment, but it said I wasn't allowed. Tried to find out how to be allowed. Couldn't. Maybe my sweat on teh Macbook keys read my personality type & CV. And no, I didn't say it was wussy journalism, even tho it is. Dull. No real personality shining out of anything. No feeling of views strongly held and defended; not even as interesting as ABC's comments. More like doctors' waiting room journalism. No wonder they don't want degreed types. Naah. I'll stick to Crikey - I call it up, my mental "muscles" flex. And LP, OzForums and a few others Oz & OS - ditto. The Punch? Flicked over a few times last week to quiz their utegate/Liberal stuff-uo. Tried to leave a comment, but it said I wasn’t allowed. Tried to find out how to be allowed. Couldn’t. Maybe my sweat on teh Macbook keys read my personality type & CV. And no, I didn’t say it was wussy journalism, even tho it is. Dull. No real personality shining out of anything. No feeling of views strongly held and defended; not even as interesting as ABC’s comments. More like doctors’ waiting room journalism. No wonder they don’t want degreed types.

Naah. I’ll stick to Crikey – I call it up, my mental “muscles” flex. And LP, OzForums and a few others Oz & OS – ditto.

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