Comments on: Rudd and Gillard attack News Limited, Hartigan punches back

By: Ginja

Ginja — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 05:07:04 +0000

The method with all the “scandals” that News Ltd has thrown at Rudd seems to be publish first and ask questions later – in the hope that something will turn up.

There’s a name for this: crap journalism (crap even by News Ltd’s standards).

Turnbull seems to have been operating on the same theory.

By: Sir Henry Casingbroke

Sir Henry Casingbroke — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:00:35 +0000

Yairs, Harto’s speechwriter/transcriber misspelt the name of Robert Thomson (as Thomsen), the editor of the News-owned WSJ. As the address was printed in the News Limited pubs the error is there for long. Harto wants to be known as Polly-Anna from now on.

On another matter, I read somewhere that Rupert who sacked the recently late Frank Devine from the Oz, explained it thus: “he was one of my mistakes, but I love him.”

It’s a strange family outfit. Now take Chase Carey’s moustache…

By: joe2

joe2 — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 06:32:21 +0000

Yeh, Ginja@57 if they hadn’t rubbished Rex and his petrodollars Gough might have held his nerve about them. It was probably more about old money aghast at the thought of procuring cash from anything other than the traditional sources.

And Arabs to boot, forsooth.

By: Ginja

Ginja — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:42:25 +0000

joe2: you make a good point about Malcolms. We shouldn’t forget Murdoch’s role in the dismissal.

By: Paul Burns

Paul Burns — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 03:06:03 +0000

hannah’s dad @ 54,
Also liked Julia’s take on Rudd not going on ABC Breakfast TV. My reading – Kev has got the common touch which is why he goes on Rove etc. And he goes on Lateline and the 7.30 Report to face the tough questions from the real journalists – well,Red Kev is a real journalist, but he does talk to the other bloke. He’s just not interested in feeding right wing trolls like you. [Julia smiles nicely.] (Again, my reading of the sub-text, not what our Julia actually said.)

God, when is this woman going to be PM? I can’t wait!.

By: Thomas Paine

Thomas Paine — Sat, 04 Jul 2009 02:49:48 +0000

‘Rudd and co may well have finally taken on the fourth estate for no other reason than things can’t get any worse than the run they getting in the press, anyway.’

Possibly Rudd and Gillard might not mind a big fight with News Ltd as it could push them over the edge into outright FoxNews mode and thus loose credibility and effectiveness with anyone except the rusted on right. Alternatively if people become aware that News Ltd is fighting with the Govt they will view their news and opinions with a little more skepticism than usual.

And in any case others are probably right, Rudd has nothing to lose since the Murdoch media is already acting like his enemy it cant get any worse without seeming obvious.

But it is about time News Ltd got called for continually hit balls foul and calling them home runs.

It will be interesting to see what the AFP come up with in regard to dodgy media activity and the public service and Defence.

By: hannah's dad

hannah's dad — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:34:43 +0000

Paul
I just watched the Gillard/Trioli thing.
I agree with your evaluation.
I particularly liked Julia saying that if she were to check the footy scores in the paper she would expect them to get the scores right and saw no reason why the same standard should not apply to political reporting.
And she smiled.
To continue the sporting analogy a dinky little Trioli lob on the tennis court was smacked back with timing and precision for a clear winner.
With a smile.
Just one of several such winners in the lop sided game.

By: joe2

joe2 — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 10:02:11 +0000

Ginja@52, the thing that gets me, is that they always seem to get away with it. This was an attempt to get rid of another elected government by another Malcolm via very dodgy means.

Elements of the press were complicit in it and we are all expected to just forget it till they try it again. Probably with better timing, just before an election, as they have before.

Rudd and co may well have finally taken on the fourth estate for no other reason than things can’t get any worse than the run they getting in the press, anyway.

And it makes a complete joke of the notion of him being the great media manipulator that they have just chosen to mostly ignore or quietly sulk about his complaint.

By: Ginja

Ginja — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 07:53:33 +0000

It shows how thin-skinned journalists are. Rudd and Gillard have made a few mild comments about a massive stuff-up by journalists, and News Ltd has a big sulk.

Hey News Ltd, you were part of a slimy attempt to knock off a PM! You more or less accused Rudd of corrupt – or at least sleazy – dealings. Do you honestly think Rudd hasn’t a legitimate point to make?

News Ltd journos get so touchy about this kind of thing because, deep down, they know they’re not real journos, just propagandists and hit-men.

Let’s all just imagine the world without the Murdoch empire.

By: Paul Burns

Paul Burns — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 06:09:19 +0000

Glad youse enjoyed it. Don’t know if Julia was wearing high heels but every time Trioli tried to put a talking fault eg its all Labor’s fault our Indeigenous people are unerprivileged; or What on earth did you think you were doing attacking News Limited like that – (subtext – we might have to go out and look for stories ourselves here at the ABC – ) , Julia smiled, and as nicely as possible, without saying it, told her she was a flamin’ idiot. Like I said, it was fun to watch.

Mind you, is my interpretation -other might have seen it differently.