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	<title>Comments on: News Limited&#8217;s partisan nonsense actually a disaster for the Liberals</title>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it mildly amusing that the link &quot;Today’s Oz front page&quot; in the OP now has &quot;Error on Page&quot;. But I&#039;m easily amused, of course. Do they ever have anything &lt;i&gt;else&lt;/i&gt; on their front page? Of course, Fairfax is no better - Michael Jackson&#039;s hair on fire! Oldest IVF Mum!!...etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it mildly amusing that the link &#8220;Today’s Oz front page&#8221; in the OP now has &#8220;Error on Page&#8221;. But I&#8217;m easily amused, of course. Do they ever have anything <i>else</i> on their front page? Of course, Fairfax is no better &#8211; Michael Jackson&#8217;s hair on fire! Oldest IVF Mum!!&#8230;etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 01:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;than ALP Left people who, on one famous occasion, all turned up to a masquerade party in plain clothes,&lt;/i&gt;
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HAHAHA.
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As long as the ALP SL are around the manufacturers of grey tracky-dacks will never go out of business. 
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Phil if you&#039;re the same Phil as Phil the Greek then you&#039;re busted. There&#039;s only a 1% probability that those lips are male. :)
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What&#039;s with the abuse? One week you&#039;re in love with me and the next you heap abuse on me. Is it like the 9 year old girl who thinks a boy&#039;s cute so she keeps kicking him in the shins or some such? Inquiring minds wanna know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>than ALP Left people who, on one famous occasion, all turned up to a masquerade party in plain clothes,</i><br />
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HAHAHA.<br />
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As long as the ALP SL are around the manufacturers of grey tracky-dacks will never go out of business.<br />
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Phil if you&#8217;re the same Phil as Phil the Greek then you&#8217;re busted. There&#8217;s only a 1% probability that those lips are male. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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What&#8217;s with the abuse? One week you&#8217;re in love with me and the next you heap abuse on me. Is it like the 9 year old girl who thinks a boy&#8217;s cute so she keeps kicking him in the shins or some such? Inquiring minds wanna know.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice lips Phil. There was this Country Party branch member who once ... ah, better not. Don&#039;t broadcast those kind of experiences as a rule.  :)

Re Dee Brown - its been a long, long time since I&#039;ve read Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. Ground-breaking, fascinating, if I remember rightly, vaguely polemical,but the most magnificent history ever written? I can think of some others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice lips Phil. There was this Country Party branch member who once &#8230; ah, better not. Don&#8217;t broadcast those kind of experiences as a rule.  <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Re Dee Brown &#8211; its been a long, long time since I&#8217;ve read Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee. Ground-breaking, fascinating, if I remember rightly, vaguely polemical,but the most magnificent history ever written? I can think of some others.</p>
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		<title>By: klaus k</title>
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		<dc:creator>klaus k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 00:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil is fresh from fighting the good fight over at catallaxy, where she has been pushing the likes of marxist, psychoanalytic and feminist perspectives on jc and his ilk. There&#039;s something to be said for the sheer bloody-mindedness necessary for such an enterprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil is fresh from fighting the good fight over at catallaxy, where she has been pushing the likes of marxist, psychoanalytic and feminist perspectives on jc and his ilk. There&#8217;s something to be said for the sheer bloody-mindedness necessary for such an enterprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the question of parties, I would simply reiterate that in my experience CPA and New Left Party people were much more interesting company at parties than ALP Left people who, on one famous occasion, all turned up to a masquerade party in plain clothes, and it fell to me to defend them against sectarian criticism by pointing out that they were in fact masquerading as members of the working class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the question of parties, I would simply reiterate that in my experience CPA and New Left Party people were much more interesting company at parties than ALP Left people who, on one famous occasion, all turned up to a masquerade party in plain clothes, and it fell to me to defend them against sectarian criticism by pointing out that they were in fact masquerading as members of the working class.</p>
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		<title>By: L to the Izzy, A to the Missy (HOGAN!)</title>
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		<dc:creator>L to the Izzy, A to the Missy (HOGAN!)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 23:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;That is J to the Ro flippin out up there&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well spotted, Casey, and a welcome return to form!
&lt;blockquote&gt;tainted cheese&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Heh, Adrian. The love you share/seems to go nowhere...</description>
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<p>Well spotted, Casey, and a welcome return to form!</p>
<blockquote><p>tainted cheese</p></blockquote>
<p>Heh, Adrian. The love you share/seems to go nowhere&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 11:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems Dee Brown was a man! Learning never ceases. I always thought this book was written by a woman.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Brown_(novelist)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems Dee Brown was a man! Learning never ceases. I always thought this book was written by a woman.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Brown_(novelist)" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dee_Brown_(novelist)</a></p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Casey.

&quot;I think it probably the most magnificent history ever written.&quot;

That is high praise indeed, Lefty E. I always felt like a big failed sook for not finishing Ms Brown&#039;s tome, truth be known, not being able to read much of it at all. Perhaps now I&#039;m adult enough. 

And I treasure the reminder and assurance of historical excellence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Casey.</p>
<p>&#8220;I think it probably the most magnificent history ever written.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is high praise indeed, Lefty E. I always felt like a big failed sook for not finishing Ms Brown&#8217;s tome, truth be known, not being able to read much of it at all. Perhaps now I&#8217;m adult enough. </p>
<p>And I treasure the reminder and assurance of historical excellence.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well they are bloody nice!</description>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well they are my lips, Casey, photographed on a webcam for a social networking site.</description>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it probably the most magnificent history ever written, Phil. I hate to demean it wit reference to somnething as trivial as the Libs, but its true: there is no miracle coming, only the patient work of reconstruction and survival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it probably the most magnificent history ever written, Phil. I hate to demean it wit reference to somnething as trivial as the Libs, but its true: there is no miracle coming, only the patient work of reconstruction and survival.</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh come on. Come on. Come on. That is J to the Ro flippin out up there. I will bet her bottom lip on it.</description>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment, Lefty E. Even at 17 I couldn&#039;t finish Dee Brown&#039;s heartbreaking book. Your invocation of it makes me weep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment, Lefty E. Even at 17 I couldn&#8217;t finish Dee Brown&#8217;s heartbreaking book. Your invocation of it makes me weep.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most defeated cultures have a &quot;ghost dancing&quot; phase like this. Read &quot;Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most defeated cultures have a &#8220;ghost dancing&#8221; phase like this. Read &#8220;Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, because you had to put your oar in. Fuck off, you anti-leftist scum.</description>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well no not exactly. I have an entirely other sexual dysfunction when I&#039;m pissed. I&#039;ll be well thanked for not elaborating. I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s a good idea to make it mo&#039; better when inebriated. Especially the first time.
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This went off-topic in a good way and now I reckon it&#039;s getting a bit tainted cheese.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well no not exactly. I have an entirely other sexual dysfunction when I&#8217;m pissed. I&#8217;ll be well thanked for not elaborating. I just don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a good idea to make it mo&#8217; better when inebriated. Especially the first time.<br />
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This went off-topic in a good way and now I reckon it&#8217;s getting a bit tainted cheese.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:40:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couldn&#039;t get it up, eh. The story of your life?</description>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Adrien is just a self-serving wannabe cockroach capitalist...&lt;/i&gt;
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Well true. I wanna be something else besides a capitalist cockroach. Working on it now. Wish me luck. 
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&lt;i&gt;who probably got the rebuff over and over from even the daggiest female NLP partygoer&lt;/i&gt;
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No. I got seduced by one of the foxiest Comm Party chicks. But, sadly, I had to decline her offer. I&#039;d had too much too drink. After that she thought I was gay. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Adrien is just a self-serving wannabe cockroach capitalist&#8230;</i><br />
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Well true. I wanna be something else besides a capitalist cockroach. Working on it now. Wish me luck.<br />
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<i>who probably got the rebuff over and over from even the daggiest female NLP partygoer</i><br />
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No. I got seduced by one of the foxiest Comm Party chicks. But, sadly, I had to decline her offer. I&#8217;d had too much too drink. After that she thought I was gay. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrien is just a self-serving wannabe cockroach capitalist who probably got the rebuff over and over from even the daggiest female NLP partygoer.

It shows, pal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrien is just a self-serving wannabe cockroach capitalist who probably got the rebuff over and over from even the daggiest female NLP partygoer.</p>
<p>It shows, pal.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I have a funny feeling that we’re OT.&lt;/i&gt;
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Yeah dangerous innit? :)
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&lt;i&gt;the Marxists that Phil alludes to, which largely don’t face up to the responsibility of Leninism, Lenin and Trotsky for laying the ground for Stalinism&lt;/i&gt;
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Or Marx himself. 
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I don&#039;t endorse the Marx=Death camps schtick, that&#039;s just some rhetorical trick to con dumb-arse ill-educated Americans into voting for people who&#039;re gonna destroy public education there even more. But Marx helped found authoritarian socialism. And Marxist-Leninists, even the vanilla sign-the-petition types we have in this country, are frighteningly autocratic when you get to know &#039;em. It&#039;s true. It&#039;s the self-righteousness that accompanies religious fervour.
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Marx was the one that developed the idea that the State should own everything to the point where someone could come along and make it so.
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Marx&#039;s proscriptions are problematic for many reasons. At the time, Mr Proudhon elucidated. And ye know Pierre Joseph was cooler &#039;cause Courbet was his mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I have a funny feeling that we’re OT.</i><br />
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Yeah dangerous innit? <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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<i>the Marxists that Phil alludes to, which largely don’t face up to the responsibility of Leninism, Lenin and Trotsky for laying the ground for Stalinism</i><br />
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Or Marx himself.<br />
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I don&#8217;t endorse the Marx=Death camps schtick, that&#8217;s just some rhetorical trick to con dumb-arse ill-educated Americans into voting for people who&#8217;re gonna destroy public education there even more. But Marx helped found authoritarian socialism. And Marxist-Leninists, even the vanilla sign-the-petition types we have in this country, are frighteningly autocratic when you get to know &#8216;em. It&#8217;s true. It&#8217;s the self-righteousness that accompanies religious fervour.<br />
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Marx was the one that developed the idea that the State should own everything to the point where someone could come along and make it so.<br />
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Marx&#8217;s proscriptions are problematic for many reasons. At the time, Mr Proudhon elucidated. And ye know Pierre Joseph was cooler &#8217;cause Courbet was his mate.</p>
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