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		<title>By: patrickg</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrickg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 10:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I enjoyed, it too. I love a well thought out magic system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I enjoyed, it too. I love a well thought out magic system.</p>
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		<title>By: myriad</title>
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		<dc:creator>myriad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not a straight fit with this genre, but I will fess up to really enjoying Patrick Rothfuss&#039; &lt;i&gt;The Name of the Wind&lt;/i&gt;. It&#039;s a rollicking good read with a very well created fantasy world, complete with the &lt;i&gt;Chandrian&lt;/i&gt; who certainly bring to mind for me the more dark and malevolent versions of faerie, including in part their link to human kind in their creation.

Wish he&#039;d hurry up and bring out the next one. Slacker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not a straight fit with this genre, but I will fess up to really enjoying Patrick Rothfuss&#8217; <i>The Name of the Wind</i>. It&#8217;s a rollicking good read with a very well created fantasy world, complete with the <i>Chandrian</i> who certainly bring to mind for me the more dark and malevolent versions of faerie, including in part their link to human kind in their creation.</p>
<p>Wish he&#8217;d hurry up and bring out the next one. Slacker.</p>
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		<title>By: gilmae</title>
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		<dc:creator>gilmae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;The War of the Flowers&#039; by Tad Williams is another contemporary world/fairy story.

I would also suggest that Iain Banks transplanted the idea to science fiction in &#039;Matter&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The War of the Flowers&#8217; by Tad Williams is another contemporary world/fairy story.</p>
<p>I would also suggest that Iain Banks transplanted the idea to science fiction in &#8216;Matter&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: patrickg</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrickg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gilmae, then there&#039;s hope for us all. ;)

Tnanks Kim, it&#039;s easy to write something good about these books.

Let the record reflect, though, there&#039;s a tonne of fairyland crap out there, too. I recently bought an Elizabeth Bear book because I&#039;d heard good things about its conptemporary fairy treatment. God it was dreadful. Even though I&#039;d &lt;em&gt;paid&lt;/em&gt; for it, I couldn&#039;t finish it - her characters are terribly, just counters to be pushed about by the narrative, and the dialogue rings about as true as a bell made of horse manure.

Donaldson&#039;s Thomas Covenant books could arguably fit in this genre. I would argue against it because a) I think there is very little interaction between the world, as it were b) Donaldson&#039;s realm as more in common with a high fantasy, Tolkien setting and most importantly, c) because they&#039;re crap. 

I must guiltily confess to enjoying Terry Brooks&#039; &quot;Magic Kingdom for sale&quot; books. My only defense is that I was thirteen at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilmae, then there&#8217;s hope for us all. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Tnanks Kim, it&#8217;s easy to write something good about these books.</p>
<p>Let the record reflect, though, there&#8217;s a tonne of fairyland crap out there, too. I recently bought an Elizabeth Bear book because I&#8217;d heard good things about its conptemporary fairy treatment. God it was dreadful. Even though I&#8217;d <em>paid</em> for it, I couldn&#8217;t finish it &#8211; her characters are terribly, just counters to be pushed about by the narrative, and the dialogue rings about as true as a bell made of horse manure.</p>
<p>Donaldson&#8217;s Thomas Covenant books could arguably fit in this genre. I would argue against it because a) I think there is very little interaction between the world, as it were b) Donaldson&#8217;s realm as more in common with a high fantasy, Tolkien setting and most importantly, c) because they&#8217;re crap. </p>
<p>I must guiltily confess to enjoying Terry Brooks&#8217; &#8220;Magic Kingdom for sale&#8221; books. My only defense is that I was thirteen at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: gilmae</title>
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		<dc:creator>gilmae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the editing of Norrell was just about right. I may not be recalling it as sharply as I might, but I found it&#039;s tendency to go on a bit part of the charm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the editing of Norrell was just about right. I may not be recalling it as sharply as I might, but I found it&#8217;s tendency to go on a bit part of the charm.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gorgeous post, Patrickg! Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gorgeous post, Patrickg! Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: patrickg</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrickg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks FDB, yes Norrell has been tremendously popular. I enjoyed it, but thought it desperately wanted some stronger editing. Have you read her other book of short stories, the Ladies of Grace Adieu?

Tim, Mirrlees was indeed a most unusual figure, and a somewhat tragic one, ending her life as a seeming recluse, though no one really knows. Michael Swanick, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/introduces/mirrlees.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in an article linked to above&lt;/a&gt; argues that her wealth allowed her to retreat from writing and the world at large - though it&#039;s hard to know how far that retreat went beyond writing.

I did, indeed, do &lt;a href=&quot;http://blueberryfool.blogspot.com/2007/01/what-im-reading-at-moment-voyage-to.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a short review of A Voyage To Arcturus&lt;/a&gt;. Sounds like you and I largely agree; a seminal, bizarre book, not without its flaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks FDB, yes Norrell has been tremendously popular. I enjoyed it, but thought it desperately wanted some stronger editing. Have you read her other book of short stories, the Ladies of Grace Adieu?</p>
<p>Tim, Mirrlees was indeed a most unusual figure, and a somewhat tragic one, ending her life as a seeming recluse, though no one really knows. Michael Swanick, <a href="http://www.infinityplus.co.uk/introduces/mirrlees.htm" rel="nofollow">in an article linked to above</a> argues that her wealth allowed her to retreat from writing and the world at large &#8211; though it&#8217;s hard to know how far that retreat went beyond writing.</p>
<p>I did, indeed, do <a href="http://blueberryfool.blogspot.com/2007/01/what-im-reading-at-moment-voyage-to.html" rel="nofollow">a short review of A Voyage To Arcturus</a>. Sounds like you and I largely agree; a seminal, bizarre book, not without its flaws.</p>
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		<title>By: zorronsky</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FDB @2 Just a different triptomine.</description>
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		<title>By: myriad</title>
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		<dc:creator>myriad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 06:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see someone else bring up &lt;i&gt;Jonathon Strange and Mr Norrel&lt;/i&gt;, certainly my favourite encounter with faerie for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see someone else bring up <i>Jonathon Strange and Mr Norrel</i>, certainly my favourite encounter with faerie for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: TimT</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read Ludd in the Mist earlier this year to my great enjoyment - a very nicely put together little book, and one that balances the mysterious and the rational plot elements in a pleasing manner. I was quite interested to find out about Mirrlees career afterwards - I like how she seemed to be a friend of one of my favourite poets, Walter de la Mare, for instance. (Their concerns are obviously quite similar.) 

Incidentally Patrick, I remember you did a brief review ages ago about Voyage to Arcturus. I finally got a copy of that, too, and read it, late last year. A supremely odd book, though perhaps not quite the masterpiece that others have claimed it to be, methinks. Love the bizarre scientific ideas it has, though, and the odd convergence of science fiction and theosophical speculations (a la Jung, Blavatsky etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read Ludd in the Mist earlier this year to my great enjoyment &#8211; a very nicely put together little book, and one that balances the mysterious and the rational plot elements in a pleasing manner. I was quite interested to find out about Mirrlees career afterwards &#8211; I like how she seemed to be a friend of one of my favourite poets, Walter de la Mare, for instance. (Their concerns are obviously quite similar.) </p>
<p>Incidentally Patrick, I remember you did a brief review ages ago about Voyage to Arcturus. I finally got a copy of that, too, and read it, late last year. A supremely odd book, though perhaps not quite the masterpiece that others have claimed it to be, methinks. Love the bizarre scientific ideas it has, though, and the odd convergence of science fiction and theosophical speculations (a la Jung, Blavatsky etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>zorronsky - tried DMT? That&#039;ll turn the little green man inside out, and rub your face in his entrails. Turns out they&#039;re kaleidoscope-coloured.

Nice piece Pg.

&lt;i&gt;Jonathon Strange and Mr Norrel&lt;/i&gt; is my recent fave in the Fairyland ouvre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>zorronsky &#8211; tried DMT? That&#8217;ll turn the little green man inside out, and rub your face in his entrails. Turns out they&#8217;re kaleidoscope-coloured.</p>
<p>Nice piece Pg.</p>
<p><i>Jonathon Strange and Mr Norrel</i> is my recent fave in the Fairyland ouvre.</p>
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		<title>By: zorronsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>zorronsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 05:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Psilocybin showed me the little green man, alkaloid turned him mean.</description>
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