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		<title>By: Fran Barlow</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/22/losing-to-the-poms-sucks/#comment-146782</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ambi@70

I suspect the naivety had been replaced by tutored bitterness and disgust by the time he wrote &lt;i&gt;Animal Farm&lt;/i&gt;</description>
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<p>I suspect the naivety had been replaced by tutored bitterness and disgust by the time he wrote <i>Animal Farm</i></p>
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		<title>By: durutticolumn</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/22/losing-to-the-poms-sucks/#comment-146781</link>
		<dc:creator>durutticolumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:31:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto re saturday morning cricket geez what a waste of time when they switched to basketball I overjoyed Yes I like head banging  music and  Getz Vivaldi Mozart chopin  as well.  one dayers I have never liked  they die in the bum in the middle overs 20/20 in India in the first year of IPl was a wonderfully chaotic madhouse of color and movement not same in Sth Africa
 I think  Buonaventura would have liked the long game the heroic draws would have been appealing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto re saturday morning cricket geez what a waste of time when they switched to basketball I overjoyed Yes I like head banging  music and  Getz Vivaldi Mozart chopin  as well.  one dayers I have never liked  they die in the bum in the middle overs 20/20 in India in the first year of IPl was a wonderfully chaotic madhouse of color and movement not same in Sth Africa<br />
 I think  Buonaventura would have liked the long game the heroic draws would have been appealing</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 01:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>durutticolumn@73

Agree on the ODIs and I do like Test Cricket, but I do like the 20-20s for other reasons.

Just as there is space to listen both to Stan Getz playing the sax and AC/DC banging out their oeuvre, or both the book and the movie there&#039;s room to like test and 2020 cricket. You just have to remember that the similarities are mere allusion and these are different kinds of thing, rather than judging one by the criteria of the other.

I suspect that 20-20 as a format is going to compete a lot better with other kids sports on Staurday mornings than the variuous formats of junior cricket we have now.

I don&#039;t take my 16-year-old to cricket -- he does baseball because the format ensures he gets a fair go and the whole thing is basically over in 2 hours.</description>
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<p>Agree on the ODIs and I do like Test Cricket, but I do like the 20-20s for other reasons.</p>
<p>Just as there is space to listen both to Stan Getz playing the sax and AC/DC banging out their oeuvre, or both the book and the movie there&#8217;s room to like test and 2020 cricket. You just have to remember that the similarities are mere allusion and these are different kinds of thing, rather than judging one by the criteria of the other.</p>
<p>I suspect that 20-20 as a format is going to compete a lot better with other kids sports on Staurday mornings than the variuous formats of junior cricket we have now.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t take my 16-year-old to cricket &#8212; he does baseball because the format ensures he gets a fair go and the whole thing is basically over in 2 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: durutticolumn</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/22/losing-to-the-poms-sucks/#comment-146779</link>
		<dc:creator>durutticolumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 00:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fran One dayers 50 overs are the most boring form of the game I love Test cricket by the way no 20/20 game is going to produce the drama of say the last day in Cardiff The draws are often the best.
 And Newspeak has many forms most of them obscene collateral damage is probably the worst.
 Reform is another</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fran One dayers 50 overs are the most boring form of the game I love Test cricket by the way no 20/20 game is going to produce the drama of say the last day in Cardiff The draws are often the best.<br />
 And Newspeak has many forms most of them obscene collateral damage is probably the worst.<br />
 Reform is another</p>
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		<title>By: Baraholka</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baraholka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test Matches has already become the Opera of Cricket, producing the highest quality output of the genre with fewest afficionados and surviving only through massive subsidy.

Broadly, Pakistani fans do not care about the results of Test Matches, only ODIs; Indian fans have largely moved this way already and the sea-change has begun in England with perhaps only The Ashes still exciting the tastes of the general public there.

Test Cricket will largely revert to Australia-England-South Africa-New Zealand.

The rest are largely not interested in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Test Matches has already become the Opera of Cricket, producing the highest quality output of the genre with fewest afficionados and surviving only through massive subsidy.</p>
<p>Broadly, Pakistani fans do not care about the results of Test Matches, only ODIs; Indian fans have largely moved this way already and the sea-change has begun in England with perhaps only The Ashes still exciting the tastes of the general public there.</p>
<p>Test Cricket will largely revert to Australia-England-South Africa-New Zealand.</p>
<p>The rest are largely not interested in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t disagree at all with your characterisation of Orwell, and indeed, in relation to newspeak his oft-quoted 1946 essay &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Politics and The English Language&lt;/a&gt; lends some context to &quot;1984&quot;

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If you simplify your English, you are freed from the worst follies of orthodoxy. You cannot speak any of the necessary dialects, and when you make a stupid remark its stupidity will be obvious, even to yourself. Political language -- and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists -- is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. One cannot change this all in a moment, but one can at least change one&#039;s own habits, and from time to time one can even, if one jeers loudly enough, send some worn-out and useless phrase -- some jackboot, Achilles&#039; heel, hotbed, melting pot, acid test, veritable inferno, or other lump of verbal refuse -- into the dustbin, where it belongs. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

As to Test Cricket, I can&#039;t see it surviving much longer. The importance of the pitch and the cross-usage of grounds by other sports and of course the demands of other formats will kill it. The format that may really be under pressure though is L50 since it is caught between two stoools. It&#039;s not test cricket and it&#039;s too formulaic and boring and subject to the vagaries of D/L to be marketable to those who like seeing something happen in a hurry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t disagree at all with your characterisation of Orwell, and indeed, in relation to newspeak his oft-quoted 1946 essay <a href="http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm" rel="nofollow">Politics and The English Language</a> lends some context to &#8220;1984&#8243;</p>
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If you simplify your English, you are freed from the worst follies of orthodoxy. You cannot speak any of the necessary dialects, and when you make a stupid remark its stupidity will be obvious, even to yourself. Political language &#8212; and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists &#8212; is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind. One cannot change this all in a moment, but one can at least change one&#8217;s own habits, and from time to time one can even, if one jeers loudly enough, send some worn-out and useless phrase &#8212; some jackboot, Achilles&#8217; heel, hotbed, melting pot, acid test, veritable inferno, or other lump of verbal refuse &#8212; into the dustbin, where it belongs. </p></blockquote>
<p>As to Test Cricket, I can&#8217;t see it surviving much longer. The importance of the pitch and the cross-usage of grounds by other sports and of course the demands of other formats will kill it. The format that may really be under pressure though is L50 since it is caught between two stoools. It&#8217;s not test cricket and it&#8217;s too formulaic and boring and subject to the vagaries of D/L to be marketable to those who like seeing something happen in a hurry.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:33:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it was George Orwell&#039;s &quot;naivety&quot; that helped him write &lt;em&gt;Animal Farm&lt;/em&gt; then I say, &quot;Hoorah for naivety!&quot;

One of the most perceptive (and softly powerful) books of the 20th century, and really only a children&#039;s animal story after all. That&#039;s books for you!!

As to sledging, it sucks. If the Aussies reckon sledging (sexual references, adult themes, verbal violence) is clever, they deserve the disapproval of cricket followers: Pommie or from wherever. Decency takes many forms. So does indecency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was George Orwell&#8217;s &#8220;naivety&#8221; that helped him write <em>Animal Farm</em> then I say, &#8220;Hoorah for naivety!&#8221;</p>
<p>One of the most perceptive (and softly powerful) books of the 20th century, and really only a children&#8217;s animal story after all. That&#8217;s books for you!!</p>
<p>As to sledging, it sucks. If the Aussies reckon sledging (sexual references, adult themes, verbal violence) is clever, they deserve the disapproval of cricket followers: Pommie or from wherever. Decency takes many forms. So does indecency.</p>
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		<title>By: durutticolumn</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/22/losing-to-the-poms-sucks/#comment-146775</link>
		<dc:creator>durutticolumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fran,
  George&#039;s naivety allowed him to be used by all and sundry but I not sure he ever discarded his deep humanity and the abhorrence of totalitarianism whatever its colour. I think he never sold out in his own mind. I am sure he would be horrified by modern political life with its accepted wisdom being spun out across society in pure newspeak and the dreadful anti-terror laws and the level of surveillance we seemed prepared to put up with.
  Does Test cricket have a future though? So many players using the test season to  get injuries repaired so they can play in the IPL. Was interesting that Gerard Whately speculated on the ABC that Australia&#039;s best 20/20 team would include Gilchrist, Symonds, Warne  and Hayden.  I can&#039;t see the long game surviving the pressures of Indian cricket. Wld be sad but when I was at school I used to have an ink well and write with a  nib pen. Now I communicate with you and others on a plastic key board. Tests will go without us noticing and as Joni says we won&#039;t know what we miss &#039;til its gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fran,<br />
  George&#8217;s naivety allowed him to be used by all and sundry but I not sure he ever discarded his deep humanity and the abhorrence of totalitarianism whatever its colour. I think he never sold out in his own mind. I am sure he would be horrified by modern political life with its accepted wisdom being spun out across society in pure newspeak and the dreadful anti-terror laws and the level of surveillance we seemed prepared to put up with.<br />
  Does Test cricket have a future though? So many players using the test season to  get injuries repaired so they can play in the IPL. Was interesting that Gerard Whately speculated on the ABC that Australia&#8217;s best 20/20 team would include Gilchrist, Symonds, Warne  and Hayden.  I can&#8217;t see the long game surviving the pressures of Indian cricket. Wld be sad but when I was at school I used to have an ink well and write with a  nib pen. Now I communicate with you and others on a plastic key board. Tests will go without us noticing and as Joni says we won&#8217;t know what we miss &#8217;til its gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Barlow</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/22/losing-to-the-poms-sucks/#comment-146774</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DurruttiColumn@67

There isn&#039;t of course, anything wrong with &quot;seeking decency&quot;, and if we could all agree what decency entailed and it happened to entail robust attachment to concepts like &quot;inclusive governance&quot; and &quot;appropriate separation between the state and civil society on the basis of a well-conceived notions of harm to legitiamte individual interests&quot; and &quot;empowerment of the producer class across national jurisdictional boundaries&quot; and &quot;approximately equal life chances for all&quot; then by all means sign me up for &quot;decency&quot;. If it doesn&#039;t, it&#039;s a bit wolly at best and likely to be of most use to misanthropic interest, regardless of who first utters it.

It was my point that this term underlined Orwell&#039;s naivety and thus the  experiential arc from his arrival in Spain to his later recruitment by anti-communists.

Fran</description>
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<p>There isn&#8217;t of course, anything wrong with &#8220;seeking decency&#8221;, and if we could all agree what decency entailed and it happened to entail robust attachment to concepts like &#8220;inclusive governance&#8221; and &#8220;appropriate separation between the state and civil society on the basis of a well-conceived notions of harm to legitiamte individual interests&#8221; and &#8220;empowerment of the producer class across national jurisdictional boundaries&#8221; and &#8220;approximately equal life chances for all&#8221; then by all means sign me up for &#8220;decency&#8221;. If it doesn&#8217;t, it&#8217;s a bit wolly at best and likely to be of most use to misanthropic interest, regardless of who first utters it.</p>
<p>It was my point that this term underlined Orwell&#8217;s naivety and thus the  experiential arc from his arrival in Spain to his later recruitment by anti-communists.</p>
<p>Fran</p>
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		<title>By: durutticolumn</title>
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		<dc:creator>durutticolumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jane please leave this thread!!! Such sacrilege Fran I agree with orwell. But I see nothing wrong with seeking decency It should be the centerpiece of any political ideology</description>
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