Comments on: Melbourne University's endowment woes http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:10:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Razor http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/#comment-147739 Razor Tue, 01 Dec 2009 08:31:55 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=9179#comment-147739 So? So?

]]> By: Student T http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/#comment-147738 Student T Tue, 01 Dec 2009 07:33:06 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=9179#comment-147738 Razor @#2: Ideally they should have built up reserves in the good times to smooth out consumtpion in the bad times. THAT WOULD BE CALLED AN ENDOWMENT MATE. Razor @#2: Ideally they should have built up reserves in the good times to smooth out consumtpion in the bad times. THAT WOULD BE CALLED AN ENDOWMENT MATE.

]]> By: BRY http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/#comment-147737 BRY Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:37:27 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=9179#comment-147737 Just to clarify the figure of 30%, relative to the comments in #68 and #70, was from the following article, and represents the cumulative drop over 2 years: http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/06/2735008.htm Just to clarify the figure of 30%, relative to the comments in #68 and #70, was from the following article, and represents the cumulative drop over 2 years:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/11/06/2735008.htm

]]> By: Paul Norton http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/#comment-147736 Paul Norton Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:42:59 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=9179#comment-147736 I believe it's not OT to link to <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/a-tiger-tale/" rel="nofollow">this post</a>. I believe it’s not OT to link to this post.

]]> By: Parkville Follies http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/#comment-147735 Parkville Follies Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:12:05 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=9179#comment-147735 Was the adoption of the so-called "Melbourne Model" a very <em>brave</em> decision, in the sense of Sir Humphrey Appleby (distinguished civil servant, now nobly sipping very fine port in his role as Provost of a distinguished Oxbridge College)? Was the Model widely debated in the University of Melbourne before adoption, or was it <em>fait accompli</em> by executive fiat. Let there be light shone upon these groves of academe. Was the adoption of the so-called “Melbourne Model” a very brave decision, in the sense of Sir Humphrey Appleby (distinguished civil servant, now nobly sipping very fine port in his role as Provost of a distinguished Oxbridge College)?

Was the Model widely debated in the University of Melbourne before adoption, or was it fait accompli by executive fiat.

Let there be light shone upon these groves of academe.

]]> By: BRY http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/#comment-147734 BRY Thu, 19 Nov 2009 15:41:39 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=9179#comment-147734 Nov 15: Christopher Webb states in a piece titled: Flawed model? that "GOSSIP in academic circles at the University of Melbourne continues about how long the so-called ''Melbourne Model'' can survive. Indeed some critics claim it's on the verge of collapse." (http://www.theage.com.au/business/raking-in-the-fees-for-the-folk-at-cooper-20091114-ifjp.html) Nov 18: Adam Schwab takes apart the hype issued by MU spokesperson Christina Buckridge (http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/18/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups-126/) Nov 20: Melbourne University staff protest by with-holding exam results (http://www.theage.com.au/national/uni-staff-withhold-marks-20091119-ioy6.html) Nov 15: Christopher Webb states in a piece titled: Flawed model? that “GOSSIP in academic circles at the University of Melbourne continues about how long the so-called ”Melbourne Model” can survive. Indeed some critics claim it’s on the verge of collapse.” (http://www.theage.com.au/business/raking-in-the-fees-for-the-folk-at-cooper-20091114-ifjp.html)

Nov 18: Adam Schwab takes apart the hype issued by MU spokesperson Christina Buckridge (http://www.crikey.com.au/2009/11/18/comments-corrections-clarifications-and-cckups-126/)

Nov 20: Melbourne University staff protest by with-holding exam results (http://www.theage.com.au/national/uni-staff-withhold-marks-20091119-ioy6.html)

]]> By: Parkville Follies http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/#comment-147733 Parkville Follies Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:59:25 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=9179#comment-147733 Here are the raw figures from riday's "Age". First preferences for 2010: Monash 14,364 (up 12%), RMIT 10,443 (up 2%), Deakin 9,978 (up 16%), Melbourne Uni 8,372 (down 14%), La Trobe 6,732 (up 15%). Here are the raw figures from riday’s “Age”. First preferences for 2010: Monash 14,364 (up 12%), RMIT 10,443 (up 2%), Deakin 9,978 (up 16%), Melbourne Uni 8,372 (down 14%), La Trobe 6,732 (up 15%).

]]> By: Parkville Follies http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/#comment-147732 Parkville Follies Sun, 08 Nov 2009 06:24:27 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=9179#comment-147732 Those first preference figures are interesting: rises for Monash, Latrobe, Deakin, etc. Looks as if demand for university places in Victoria has grown, yet demand for places at Melbourne Uni has dropped (so in relative terms even worse..... stocks falling, in a rising market). But they're "vacating the undergraduate market" so why should they care? Glyn Davis an old mate of the PM's? Did any of the 2020 Summiteers criticise his new "Melbourne Model"? Those first preference figures are interesting: rises for Monash, Latrobe, Deakin, etc. Looks as if demand for university places in Victoria has grown, yet demand for places at Melbourne Uni has dropped (so in relative terms even worse….. stocks falling, in a rising market).

But they’re “vacating the undergraduate market” so why should they care? Glyn Davis an old mate of the PM’s? Did any of the 2020 Summiteers criticise his new “Melbourne Model”?

]]> By: BRY http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/#comment-147731 BRY Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:34:39 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=9179#comment-147731 November 2009, and the rot continues unabated at the University of Melbourne. A 30 per cent drop in first preference applications by students to do a degree at Melbourne, Dean of Law throwing in the towel (while the staff remain furious), senior HR manager Liz Baré leaving, Dean of Arts under pressure from his (remaining, and furious) staff, VCA protests and their 15,000 signature petition to Parliament, huge numbers of staff applying for redundancy.... Meanwhile, on Jon Faine's radio interview (7 Nov, ABC 774), Glyn Davis maintains that everything is going very well - couldn't be better... One wonders what it will take before a radical change occurs at that campus. November 2009, and the rot continues unabated at the University of Melbourne. A 30 per cent drop in first preference applications by students to do a degree at Melbourne, Dean of Law throwing in the towel (while the staff remain furious), senior HR manager Liz Baré leaving, Dean of Arts under pressure from his (remaining, and furious) staff, VCA protests and their 15,000 signature petition to Parliament, huge numbers of staff applying for redundancy…. Meanwhile, on Jon Faine’s radio interview (7 Nov, ABC 774), Glyn Davis maintains that everything is going very well – couldn’t be better… One wonders what it will take before a radical change occurs at that campus.

]]> By: km http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/07/29/melbourne-universitys-endowment-woes/#comment-147730 km Tue, 01 Sep 2009 12:00:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=9179#comment-147730 It is very sad and unfortunate that education can be manipulated and tainted in this way. The outlook is grim, the student must be aware that it is about bums on seats and not about the University having the student's best interests at heart. These so called executives are morally unstable. They expect thousands of dollars for an unsubstantiated education whose classes are overfilled - under the guidance of overworked lecturers. The debt that then incurs is of concern in this scenario. Are there work opportunities out there for the amount of places they allow (especially in post grad courses), and is a student of an international standard under this crap banner of a 'new model'? Nope! It is very sad and unfortunate that education can be manipulated and tainted in this way. The outlook is grim, the student must be aware that it is about bums on seats and not about the University having the student’s best interests at heart.

These so called executives are morally unstable. They expect thousands of dollars for an unsubstantiated education whose classes are overfilled – under the guidance of overworked lecturers. The debt that then incurs is of concern in this scenario. Are there work opportunities out there for the amount of places they allow (especially in post grad courses), and is a student of an international standard under this crap banner of a ‘new model’? Nope!

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