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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 11:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>diffan1213,
Thanks. Did discover that after my earlier comment, but forgot to say.</description>
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Thanks. Did discover that after my earlier comment, but forgot to say.</p>
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		<title>By: dlfan123</title>
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		<dc:creator>dlfan123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damian Lewis is British he just plays an American in Band of Brothers and other films</description>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
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		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just for fun (and cuz we&#039;re speaking of jazz) here&#039;s a link to Lee Morgan&#039;s sublime mid-60s cut &quot;The Procrastinator&quot;, one of the great lesser-known jewels of hard bop.  Just look at that lineup -- it&#039;s to die for, and yeah, they do not disappoint.  (And for those of you who think the jazz trumpet is defined by Miles, you&#039;re in for a stylistic surprise.  Check out Lee&#039;s entrance around the 2:00 minute mark on &quot;The Sidewinder&quot; some time for a treat.)  But here&#039;s &quot;The Procrastinator&quot;, with the great Bobby Hutcherson leading the charge...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIEQak9Vh6w&amp;feature=related

Sometimes I think of Lee as being sort of the Dee Dee Ramone of jazz (when you consider, say, &quot;The Sidewinder&quot; or &quot;Mr. Kenyatta&quot;).  But beyond that, here&#039;s a truncated version of his sublime, epic &quot;The Search for the New Land&quot;, always one of my favorite jazz cuts... if you can pick up the whole thing on vinyl or CD, it&#039;s money well spent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht-WGjPhQKw&amp;feature=related

I always loved how this bunch, in spite of their enormous chops and taste for high-altitude art, nevertheless did not disdain to throw in a bit of showmanship too.  Lee at his best, turns his little spectactular show-off bits into pieces of poetic metaphor instead of just sparks.  Anyway enjoy.

Oh, and p.s. -- thanks to Jazz Creepo for turning me on to Vince Jones... I checked out some of his stuff on youtube and it was lovely...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just for fun (and cuz we&#8217;re speaking of jazz) here&#8217;s a link to Lee Morgan&#8217;s sublime mid-60s cut &#8220;The Procrastinator&#8221;, one of the great lesser-known jewels of hard bop.  Just look at that lineup &#8212; it&#8217;s to die for, and yeah, they do not disappoint.  (And for those of you who think the jazz trumpet is defined by Miles, you&#8217;re in for a stylistic surprise.  Check out Lee&#8217;s entrance around the 2:00 minute mark on &#8220;The Sidewinder&#8221; some time for a treat.)  But here&#8217;s &#8220;The Procrastinator&#8221;, with the great Bobby Hutcherson leading the charge&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIEQak9Vh6w&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIEQak9Vh6w&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Sometimes I think of Lee as being sort of the Dee Dee Ramone of jazz (when you consider, say, &#8220;The Sidewinder&#8221; or &#8220;Mr. Kenyatta&#8221;).  But beyond that, here&#8217;s a truncated version of his sublime, epic &#8220;The Search for the New Land&#8221;, always one of my favorite jazz cuts&#8230; if you can pick up the whole thing on vinyl or CD, it&#8217;s money well spent.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht-WGjPhQKw&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht-WGjPhQKw&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>I always loved how this bunch, in spite of their enormous chops and taste for high-altitude art, nevertheless did not disdain to throw in a bit of showmanship too.  Lee at his best, turns his little spectactular show-off bits into pieces of poetic metaphor instead of just sparks.  Anyway enjoy.</p>
<p>Oh, and p.s. &#8212; thanks to Jazz Creepo for turning me on to Vince Jones&#8230; I checked out some of his stuff on youtube and it was lovely&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
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		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jo -- ahh, true.  Conversely, there are a few rare passages in Schumann (notably in Kinderscenen, but also elsewhere) where, for a few brief moments, he actually sort of swings -- a century or so ahead of schedule.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jo &#8212; ahh, true.  Conversely, there are a few rare passages in Schumann (notably in Kinderscenen, but also elsewhere) where, for a few brief moments, he actually sort of swings &#8212; a century or so ahead of schedule.</p>
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		<title>By: jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JycfQd9nk9M

there are clips of tatum playing chopin, dvorak etc on youtube, but not in the 1 above:</description>
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<p>there are clips of tatum playing chopin, dvorak etc on youtube, but not in the 1 above:</p>
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		<title>By: laura</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband plays double bass in two jazz bands.  There is a fairly extensive jazz culture in the outer north of Melbourne which goes back to Graeme and Roger Bell and Gordon Ford in Eltham in the 30s and 40s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband plays double bass in two jazz bands.  There is a fairly extensive jazz culture in the outer north of Melbourne which goes back to Graeme and Roger Bell and Gordon Ford in Eltham in the 30s and 40s.</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;None of this stuff is freedom...&quot;

Oh, except for Don Van Vliet and The Mascara Snake, getting themselves lost on sax and bass clarinet.  Those guys had no idea what they were doing.  The Captain was kind of an idiot savant with a horn or a paintbrush; but with a pen or a microphone, he was sublime.</description>
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<p>Oh, except for Don Van Vliet and The Mascara Snake, getting themselves lost on sax and bass clarinet.  Those guys had no idea what they were doing.  The Captain was kind of an idiot savant with a horn or a paintbrush; but with a pen or a microphone, he was sublime.</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
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		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;apparently Coltrane spent a fair time working his way through Slonimsky’s Thesaurus of Scales.&quot;

Oh, Coltrane studied formal technique like you wouldn&#039;t believe.  So did most of those guys -- well, the good/great ones.  (Coltrane also did his post-docs, as it were, in the Schools of Miles and Monk.  IIRC, even in Coltrane&#039;s great years, he spent a few hours a day just playing scales.)  Just like Pollock studied formally with T.H. Benton and the Mexican muralists, and (informally) over all the minutiae of Picasso, so he could learn to fling paint the exactly *right* way.  James Schuyler was Auden&#039;s personal secretary.  None of this stuff is &#039;freedom&#039; from &#039;constraint or convention&#039; -- none of the stuff that&#039;s any good, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;apparently Coltrane spent a fair time working his way through Slonimsky’s Thesaurus of Scales.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, Coltrane studied formal technique like you wouldn&#8217;t believe.  So did most of those guys &#8212; well, the good/great ones.  (Coltrane also did his post-docs, as it were, in the Schools of Miles and Monk.  IIRC, even in Coltrane&#8217;s great years, he spent a few hours a day just playing scales.)  Just like Pollock studied formally with T.H. Benton and the Mexican muralists, and (informally) over all the minutiae of Picasso, so he could learn to fling paint the exactly *right* way.  James Schuyler was Auden&#8217;s personal secretary.  None of this stuff is &#8216;freedom&#8217; from &#8216;constraint or convention&#8217; &#8212; none of the stuff that&#8217;s any good, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over hot and sticky where you are and missing out on important sleep?

Relief is in sight.

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/radar.jsp?lt=wzcountry&amp;lc=aus&amp;ane=1&amp;anf=1&amp;and=1&amp;ana=7&amp;anb=333&amp;anc=3&amp;lya=1&amp;lyk=1&amp;lye=1&amp;lyf=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over hot and sticky where you are and missing out on important sleep?</p>
<p>Relief is in sight.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.weatherzone.com.au/radar.jsp?lt=wzcountry&amp;lc=aus&amp;ane=1&amp;anf=1&amp;and=1&amp;ana=7&amp;anb=333&amp;anc=3&amp;lya=1&amp;lyk=1&amp;lye=1&amp;lyf=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.weatherzone.com.au/radar.jsp?lt=wzcountry&amp;lc=aus&amp;ane=1&amp;anf=1&amp;and=1&amp;ana=7&amp;anb=333&amp;anc=3&amp;lya=1&amp;lyk=1&amp;lye=1&amp;lyf=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Irving (no relation)</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Irving (no relation)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 02:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to that, jo, apparently Coltrane spent a fair time working his way through Slonimsky&#039;s Thesaurus of Scales.</description>
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		<title>By: jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 23:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless a majority of the population of the US was &#039;leftwing&#039; from the mid to late thirties to mid forties (ok, a bit more likely than today as it happens &amp; depending on one&#039;s def. of left, but anyways )....or unless big band and swing ain&#039;t jazz .......cause jazz totally dominated the music charts and dancehalls of that period; Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, Tommy Dorsey, Count Basie, Glen Miller and so on held the No. 1 chart position for years at a time etc. I assume Australia followed the US charts to a largish degree.

So not sure about some of the stuff written above nor of the link @ 46, to an official Aust Govt site stating that jazz &#039;only became popular here &lt;em&gt; after WW2 &lt;/em&gt; when a local jazz musician&#039;s convention started&#039;. I thought this was when jazz, like in the US, was becoming &lt;em&gt; less popular with each passing year &lt;/em&gt;....and by the mid 50&#039;s, black kids in the US were getting into R&amp;B, and all kids into rock n roll. And the charts had lots, as always, of syrupy pop tunes &amp; novelty songs, as well as many re-recorded even then &#039;jazz standards&#039; by big singing stars etc, but the golden years of jazz were kaput. &#039;Modern jazz&#039; otoh, which had come to dominate the jazz music scene itself, was never going to be a popular idiom, it was self-acknowledged and proudly so after, the formal, orchestral-like restraint of the big band/swing era etc.

As per Nabs @ 52, the range of jazz styles/sub-genres is pretty deep and wide after 100 years. 

And there had been mega jazz hits of varying degrees of &#039;hotness&#039; (ie blackness) since the early 20&#039;s. Of course, white jazz composers and band leaders like Paul Whiteman, the self-titled &#039;King of Jazz&#039; had many huge hits during the 20&#039;s and 30&#039;s...Hoagie Carmichael&#039;s Stardust was released in 1929... but Cab Calloway and Duke Ellington had a few big hits leading up to big band/swing jazz era, although the depression saw hundreds of artists dumped from labels..

As to Jazz Creepo&#039;s question:

A correlation between lefties and I&#039;m assuming &#039;modern jazz&#039; in Oz? Firstly, you are talking about a tiny live music scene or wine bars etc located in a couple of inner cities, with probable links whatever arts/literary and theatre scene was happening and the one university in town, and then any link to politics through all of that. Modern jazz was cerebral, and referenced/played w/ genres of music and/or abandoned/extended them etc. so I would think any correlation in white Australia esp. rather than being left or right wing, was more likely if any, to be &#039;further educated&#039; and continued to be so.

I don&#039;t agree whatsoever with Jazz Creepo&#039;s statement that black musicians &quot;didn&#039;t understand the conventions nor did they wish to be constrained.&quot; They may not have wanted to have been constrained, but...there is no way that you can play, let alone develop and create complex music without knowing musical conventions...In terms of modern jazz in particular, Jazz Creepo, you might like to read Miles Davis&#039; autobiography &amp; disabuse yourself of the notion that these guys weren&#039;t intensely intellectualising every note. As for study &amp; technique:

&lt;blockquote&gt; Charlie Parker: Well,you make it so hard for me to answer, you know, because I can&#039;t see where there&#039;s anything fantastic about it all. I put quite a bit of study into the horn, that&#039;s true. In fact the neighbors threatened to ask my mother to move once when we were living out West. She said I was driving them crazy with the horn. I used to put in at least 11 -- 11 to 15 hours a day.

PD: Yes, that&#039;s what I wondered.

Charlie Parker: That&#039;s true, yes. I did that for over a period of 3 to 4 years. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

 
hhhm....&lt;strike&gt; Ella.... Duke....Miles.....Bird...umm &lt;/strike&gt;... &#039;33 Cab:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D44pyeEvhcQ&amp;feature=related</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless a majority of the population of the US was &#8216;leftwing&#8217; from the mid to late thirties to mid forties (ok, a bit more likely than today as it happens &amp; depending on one&#8217;s def. of left, but anyways )&#8230;.or unless big band and swing ain&#8217;t jazz &#8230;&#8230;.cause jazz totally dominated the music charts and dancehalls of that period; Benny Goodman, Artie Shaw, Tommy Dorsey, Count Basie, Glen Miller and so on held the No. 1 chart position for years at a time etc. I assume Australia followed the US charts to a largish degree.</p>
<p>So not sure about some of the stuff written above nor of the link @ 46, to an official Aust Govt site stating that jazz &#8216;only became popular here <em> after WW2 </em> when a local jazz musician&#8217;s convention started&#8217;. I thought this was when jazz, like in the US, was becoming <em> less popular with each passing year </em>&#8230;.and by the mid 50&#8217;s, black kids in the US were getting into R&amp;B, and all kids into rock n roll. And the charts had lots, as always, of syrupy pop tunes &amp; novelty songs, as well as many re-recorded even then &#8216;jazz standards&#8217; by big singing stars etc, but the golden years of jazz were kaput. &#8216;Modern jazz&#8217; otoh, which had come to dominate the jazz music scene itself, was never going to be a popular idiom, it was self-acknowledged and proudly so after, the formal, orchestral-like restraint of the big band/swing era etc.</p>
<p>As per Nabs @ 52, the range of jazz styles/sub-genres is pretty deep and wide after 100 years. </p>
<p>And there had been mega jazz hits of varying degrees of &#8216;hotness&#8217; (ie blackness) since the early 20&#8217;s. Of course, white jazz composers and band leaders like Paul Whiteman, the self-titled &#8216;King of Jazz&#8217; had many huge hits during the 20&#8217;s and 30&#8217;s&#8230;Hoagie Carmichael&#8217;s Stardust was released in 1929&#8230; but Cab Calloway and Duke Ellington had a few big hits leading up to big band/swing jazz era, although the depression saw hundreds of artists dumped from labels..</p>
<p>As to Jazz Creepo&#8217;s question:</p>
<p>A correlation between lefties and I&#8217;m assuming &#8216;modern jazz&#8217; in Oz? Firstly, you are talking about a tiny live music scene or wine bars etc located in a couple of inner cities, with probable links whatever arts/literary and theatre scene was happening and the one university in town, and then any link to politics through all of that. Modern jazz was cerebral, and referenced/played w/ genres of music and/or abandoned/extended them etc. so I would think any correlation in white Australia esp. rather than being left or right wing, was more likely if any, to be &#8216;further educated&#8217; and continued to be so.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree whatsoever with Jazz Creepo&#8217;s statement that black musicians &#8220;didn&#8217;t understand the conventions nor did they wish to be constrained.&#8221; They may not have wanted to have been constrained, but&#8230;there is no way that you can play, let alone develop and create complex music without knowing musical conventions&#8230;In terms of modern jazz in particular, Jazz Creepo, you might like to read Miles Davis&#8217; autobiography &amp; disabuse yourself of the notion that these guys weren&#8217;t intensely intellectualising every note. As for study &amp; technique:</p>
<blockquote><p> Charlie Parker: Well,you make it so hard for me to answer, you know, because I can&#8217;t see where there&#8217;s anything fantastic about it all. I put quite a bit of study into the horn, that&#8217;s true. In fact the neighbors threatened to ask my mother to move once when we were living out West. She said I was driving them crazy with the horn. I used to put in at least 11 &#8212; 11 to 15 hours a day.</p>
<p>PD: Yes, that&#8217;s what I wondered.</p>
<p>Charlie Parker: That&#8217;s true, yes. I did that for over a period of 3 to 4 years. </p></blockquote>
<p>hhhm&#8230;.<strike> Ella&#8230;. Duke&#8230;.Miles&#8230;..Bird&#8230;umm </strike>&#8230; &#8216;33 Cab:</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well jeez Russell, if you&#039;re gonna flush a bit of fun and campy yet superbly produced nostalgia down the toilet, well then suck on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkYBJId7WZs&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;.

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well jeez Russell, if you&#8217;re gonna flush a bit of fun and campy yet superbly produced nostalgia down the toilet, well then suck on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkYBJId7WZs" rel="nofollow">this</a>.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newspoll back to normal (56-44) following last fortnight&#039;s outlier: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/labor-increases-support-newspoll/story-e6frgczf-1225798362542</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newspoll back to normal (56-44) following last fortnight&#8217;s outlier: <a href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/labor-increases-support-newspoll/story-e6frgczf-1225798362542" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.com.au/politics/labor-increases-support-newspoll/story-e6frgczf-1225798362542</a></p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 13:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Enjoyable, but 70s nostalgia is often accompanied by a bit of a cringe ... whereas Willis - pure sophistication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enjoyable, but 70s nostalgia is often accompanied by a bit of a cringe &#8230; whereas Willis &#8211; pure sophistication.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And some of Ken Nordine&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3gFCSKMo70&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;commercial work&lt;/a&gt;.

With added Dacron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And some of Ken Nordine&#8217;s <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3gFCSKMo70" rel="nofollow">commercial work</a>.</p>
<p>With added Dacron.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/14/saturday-salon-216/comment-page-2/#comment-837101</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never heard of Ken Nordine, but, yes that is a voice. But Willis spoke slowly, really slowly, with a slowness, a calmness that I doubt would be possible in today&#039;s world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never heard of Ken Nordine, but, yes that is a voice. But Willis spoke slowly, really slowly, with a slowness, a calmness that I doubt would be possible in today&#8217;s world.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/14/saturday-salon-216/comment-page-2/#comment-837099</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Willis Conover, let us not forget another great white boy jazzer with a superb voice, the inimitable &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIrCizE_678&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ken Nordine&lt;/a&gt;.

Tho&#039; I once stumped him live by asking what rhymed with &quot;orange&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Willis Conover, let us not forget another great white boy jazzer with a superb voice, the inimitable <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIrCizE_678" rel="nofollow">Ken Nordine</a>.</p>
<p>Tho&#8217; I once stumped him live by asking what rhymed with &#8220;orange&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/14/saturday-salon-216/comment-page-2/#comment-837097</link>
		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fabulous - why didn&#039;t I think of Youtube - you&#039;ve got to listen to the voice of 
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2iYyBzDzE&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Willis Conover&lt;/a&gt;. Maybe I listened for Willis&#039; voice, rather than the music ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fabulous &#8211; why didn&#8217;t I think of Youtube &#8211; you&#8217;ve got to listen to the voice of<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2iYyBzDzE" rel="nofollow">Willis Conover</a>. Maybe I listened for Willis&#8217; voice, rather than the music &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It could have been on the ABC - it started at 10.00pm which was late for an eleven year old. Then again I had several crystal sets, each of which was good for different things - perhaps one of them was good for shortwave. (My best crystal set was called The Scientific Egg - a clear plastic thing the size and shape of an egg). 

I have to be careful not to let Katz know my formative years were spent listening to The Voice of America. OTOH maybe that accounts for my perfectly balanced political views: growing up in a Labor family, while the CIA was whispering in my ear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It could have been on the ABC &#8211; it started at 10.00pm which was late for an eleven year old. Then again I had several crystal sets, each of which was good for different things &#8211; perhaps one of them was good for shortwave. (My best crystal set was called The Scientific Egg &#8211; a clear plastic thing the size and shape of an egg). </p>
<p>I have to be careful not to let Katz know my formative years were spent listening to The Voice of America. OTOH maybe that accounts for my perfectly balanced political views: growing up in a Labor family, while the CIA was whispering in my ear.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:03:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember jazz is full of &lt;a href=&quot;http://michalevy.com/giantsteps_download&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;giant steps&lt;/a&gt; admired by pygmies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember jazz is full of <a href="http://michalevy.com/giantsteps_download" rel="nofollow">giant steps</a> admired by pygmies.</p>
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