Comments on: The future of the ABC and of journalism http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 07:31:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: FDB http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/#comment-121564 FDB Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:03:21 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=10907#comment-121564 Frankly, they should have stuck to their guns then. And there's certainly no excuse at all now. Just laziness and a cultural shift away from letting journalists just fucking journalise. Frankly, they should have stuck to their guns then. And there’s certainly no excuse at all now. Just laziness and a cultural shift away from letting journalists just fucking journalise.

]]> By: Paul Burns http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/#comment-121563 Paul Burns Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:01:43 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=10907#comment-121563 And they're scared shitless what the Libs might do next time they get in, if they don't tow the RWDB line. Even if it does take 15 years. And they’re scared shitless what the Libs might do next time they get in, if they don’t tow the RWDB line. Even if it does take 15 years.

]]> By: David Irving (no relation) http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/#comment-121562 David Irving (no relation) Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:51:55 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=10907#comment-121562 FDB, I think a lot of the ABC's problem is that they still haven't recovered from being cowed by the last govt, and the current make-up of the Board won't be helping. It's as though they still can't quite believe we've had a change of government. FDB, I think a lot of the ABC’s problem is that they still haven’t recovered from being cowed by the last govt, and the current make-up of the Board won’t be helping.

It’s as though they still can’t quite believe we’ve had a change of government.

]]> By: FDB http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/#comment-121561 FDB Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:46:31 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=10907#comment-121561 I reckon amongst other things they're just overthinking. Journalistic instinct has gone out the window in favour of constantly second-guessing how their 'product' will be recieved and percieved in the broader media, and how the players in this or that story are going to respond, politically, to the coverage. It's basically weak, spineless crap from an organisation that used to lead - effortlessly. I reckon amongst other things they’re just overthinking. Journalistic instinct has gone out the window in favour of constantly second-guessing how their ‘product’ will be recieved and percieved in the broader media, and how the players in this or that story are going to respond, politically, to the coverage.

It’s basically weak, spineless crap from an organisation that used to lead – effortlessly.

]]> By: adrian http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/#comment-121560 adrian Thu, 19 Nov 2009 01:41:39 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=10907#comment-121560 Whatever you want to bloody well call it the point is that by ommitting certain viewpoints and concentrating on others any news organisation can manipulate what the general public is allowed to see. So we have the current ABC giving regular airing of extreme right views, and relatively little from anything further to the left than centre left at best. For example, John Pilger whose work is regularly published overseas recently won the Sydney Peace Prize, but listeners to the ABC would have been blissfully unaware of that, while being regularly treated to the rantings of Andrew Bolt and his ilk. The commercial media cam publish what they like, but we are entitled to expect better from the ABC for obvious reasons. So call it censorship, bias, or whatever you like, but something is rotten in the ABC at the moment. Whatever you want to bloody well call it the point is that by ommitting certain viewpoints and concentrating on others any news organisation can manipulate what the general public is allowed to see. So we have the current ABC giving regular airing of extreme right views, and relatively little from anything further to the left than centre left at best.

For example, John Pilger whose work is regularly published overseas recently won the Sydney Peace Prize, but listeners to the ABC would have been blissfully unaware of that, while being regularly treated to the rantings of Andrew Bolt and his ilk.
The commercial media cam publish what they like, but we are entitled to expect better from the ABC for obvious reasons. So call it censorship, bias, or whatever you like, but something is rotten in the ABC at the moment.

]]> By: FDB http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/#comment-121559 FDB Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:55:29 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=10907#comment-121559 Daggett, I'm not sure you know what censorship is. Hint - editorial decisions to focus news and current affairs on certain major players are not it. Daggett, I’m not sure you know what censorship is.

Hint – editorial decisions to focus news and current affairs on certain major players are not it.

]]> By: daggett http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/#comment-121558 daggett Wed, 18 Nov 2009 22:29:46 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=10907#comment-121558 It's interesting that <a href="#comment-837456" rel="nofollow">adrian</a> has detected a trend of the ABC being biased <em>against</em> the Federal Labor Government. This deserves further exploration. We should bear in mind that the ABC has largely become and extension of News Limited with so many current employese of News Limited working for the ABC. Some of this has been documented on <strong>stopmurdoch.blogspot.com</strong> in the articles <a href="http://stopmurdoch.blogspot.com/2009/10/concern-growing-over-murdoch.html" rel="nofollow">"Concern growing over Murdoch infiltration of ABC"</a> of 25 Oct 09,<a href="http://stopmurdoch.blogspot.com/2009/11/abc-answers-question-with-question.html" rel="nofollow">"ABC answers a question with a question"</a> of 4 Nov 09,<a href="http://stopmurdoch.blogspot.com/2009/11/riddle-me-this.html" rel="nofollow">"Riddle Me This ..."</a> of 6 Nov 09. If Uncle Rupert had decided that his Federal Labor glove puppets had exceeded their usefulness to him, it should not be altogether unexpected for the ABC to turn on the Government. Nevertheless, if true, this would have to be amongst the least of their crimes. As I have written elsewhere, the Brisbane local ABC radio almost completely censored both the Greens and Independents during the most recetn Queensland state elections. They blatently promoted the two major parties in spite of the fact that 59% of the electorate was respectively opposed to each of the two major parties. This was <a href="" rel="nofollow">explicitly stated</a> in am e-mail to me from Kirsten McLeod of Audience & Consumer Affairs on 10 Jun 09: <blockquote>The ABC's approach to election coverage focuses on the Government and official Opposition on the basis that one of the two major parties will ultimately form government and thus represent the principal points of view.</blockquote> In fact, there was a realistic chance that the Independents and Greens could have formed the blanace of power, but by blatantly censoring views of independents like myself, even when my views such as my opposition to privatisation represented the overwhelming views of the Queensland public, the ABC changed the outcome of the election. We can largely thank the ABC for the appalling state of governance in Queensland today. --- One policy I will be standing on will be to massively increase the funds available to the ABC and to remove from the ABC any influence by media monopolies. No employee of any of the private media corporations should be allowed to sit on the ABC board. I will challenge all the candidates I am standing against to at least match this policy. James Sinnamon Brisbane Independent for Truth Democrac, and Economic Justice Australian Federal Elections, 2010 It’s interesting that adrian has detected a trend of the ABC being biased against the Federal Labor Government. This deserves further exploration.

We should bear in mind that the ABC has largely become and extension of News Limited with so many current employese of News Limited working for the ABC. Some of this has been documented on stopmurdoch.blogspot.com in the articles “Concern growing over Murdoch infiltration of ABC” of 25 Oct 09,“ABC answers a question with a question” of 4 Nov 09,“Riddle Me This …” of 6 Nov 09.

If Uncle Rupert had decided that his Federal Labor glove puppets had exceeded their usefulness to him, it should not be altogether unexpected for the ABC to turn on the Government.

Nevertheless, if true, this would have to be amongst the least of their crimes. As I have written elsewhere, the Brisbane local ABC radio almost completely censored both the Greens and Independents during the most recetn Queensland state elections. They blatently promoted the two major parties in spite of the fact that 59% of the electorate was respectively opposed to each of the two major parties. This was explicitly stated in am e-mail to me from Kirsten McLeod of Audience & Consumer Affairs on 10 Jun 09:

The ABC’s approach to election coverage focuses on the Government and official Opposition on the basis that one of the two major parties will ultimately form government and thus represent the principal points of view.

In fact, there was a realistic chance that the Independents and Greens could have formed the blanace of power, but by blatantly censoring views of independents like myself, even when my views such as my opposition to privatisation represented the overwhelming views of the Queensland public, the ABC changed the outcome of the election. We can largely thank the ABC for the appalling state of governance in Queensland today.

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One policy I will be standing on will be to massively increase the funds available to the ABC and to remove from the ABC any influence by media monopolies. No employee of any of the private media corporations should be allowed to sit on the ABC board. I will challenge all the candidates I am standing against to at least match this policy.

James Sinnamon
Brisbane Independent for
Truth Democrac, and Economic Justice
Australian Federal Elections, 2010

]]> By: David Irving (no relation) http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/#comment-121557 David Irving (no relation) Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:42:52 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=10907#comment-121557 Bugger. Too long ago, or too far away. Just my luck. Bugger. Too long ago, or too far away.

Just my luck.

]]> By: adrian http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/#comment-121556 adrian Wed, 18 Nov 2009 03:01:14 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=10907#comment-121556 Exactly grace@34. It's a little self perpetuating circle of spin now known as news. Why over at 702 Alison Carrabine was breathlessly informing us that Rudd was being 'disingenuous' at best. Every day, no matter what the topic, she manages to find a negative for the government. ABC News: We interpret, you decide. Exactly grace@34. It’s a little self perpetuating circle of spin now known as news.
Why over at 702 Alison Carrabine was breathlessly informing us that Rudd was being ‘disingenuous’ at best. Every day, no matter what the topic, she manages to find a negative for the government. ABC News: We interpret, you decide.

]]> By: Paul Burns http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/16/the-future-of-the-abc-and-of-journalism/#comment-121555 Paul Burns Wed, 18 Nov 2009 02:54:12 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=10907#comment-121555 DI (nr) @ 33, Nero's Great Palace? Tiberius's palace on Capri. Probably the Byzantine Palace in Constantinople from time to time. Mid 18c London? London in the swinging 60s. Hollywood, any day. Heaps of places, mate. DI (nr) @ 33,
Nero’s Great Palace? Tiberius’s palace on Capri. Probably the Byzantine Palace in Constantinople from time to time.
Mid 18c London? London in the swinging 60s. Hollywood, any day. Heaps of places, mate.

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