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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/26/propositions-on-the-liberal-right-week-of-fail/comment-page-3/#comment-839937</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks mitch</description>
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		<title>By: mitchell porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitchell porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>joe2 @102 it&#039;s a new idiom, like &quot;FTW&quot;. Confused me the one and only previous time I saw it, too. 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joe2 @102 it&#8217;s a new idiom, like &#8220;FTW&#8221;. Confused me the one and only previous time I saw it, too. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=this" rel="nofollow">http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=this</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ute Man</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/26/propositions-on-the-liberal-right-week-of-fail/comment-page-3/#comment-839920</link>
		<dc:creator>Ute Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yairs Tim, it&#039;s a little unfair on the original CHUD, but I don&#039;t our new breed of CHUD understand when they are called troglodytes and need something simpler to get the point across.  Bud the CHUD works for the IPA, although he calls himself Marohasy now apparently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yairs Tim, it&#8217;s a little unfair on the original CHUD, but I don&#8217;t our new breed of CHUD understand when they are called troglodytes and need something simpler to get the point across.  Bud the CHUD works for the IPA, although he calls himself Marohasy now apparently.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Macknay</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/26/propositions-on-the-liberal-right-week-of-fail/comment-page-3/#comment-839917</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Macknay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ut Man @115 - I was under the impression it stood for &quot;Cannabalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller&quot; but either way it&#039;s a fair description of Minchin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ut Man @115 &#8211; I was under the impression it stood for &#8220;Cannabalistic Humanoid Underground Dweller&#8221; but either way it&#8217;s a fair description of Minchin.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/26/propositions-on-the-liberal-right-week-of-fail/comment-page-3/#comment-839909</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jes&#039; I thought ya had a profundo link for me gone wrong there, Ute Man. Ah well.
But yer, Mal is just bad news. Minchin and Tones are plain creepy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jes&#8217; I thought ya had a profundo link for me gone wrong there, Ute Man. Ah well.<br />
But yer, Mal is just bad news. Minchin and Tones are plain creepy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ute Man</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/26/propositions-on-the-liberal-right-week-of-fail/comment-page-3/#comment-839908</link>
		<dc:creator>Ute Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turnbull certainly didn&#039;t have that chin thrust in defiance any more - be interesting to see whether he really has the guts to take it to a spill.  I&#039;ll be surprised if it gets that far though judging by his slouch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turnbull certainly didn&#8217;t have that chin thrust in defiance any more &#8211; be interesting to see whether he really has the guts to take it to a spill.  I&#8217;ll be surprised if it gets that far though judging by his slouch.</p>
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		<title>By: Leinad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leinad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, Man of Utes, it&#039;s only the hard, sharp shock of electoral reality that will quell their madness. But based on his body language in front of Röte Kezza I think Turnbull knows he&#039;s toast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, Man of Utes, it&#8217;s only the hard, sharp shock of electoral reality that will quell their madness. But based on his body language in front of Röte Kezza I think Turnbull knows he&#8217;s toast.</p>
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		<title>By: Ute Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ute Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Minchin is a C.H.U.D. Leinad.

Cloddish
Hidebound
Utterly
Deranged

You could see him sitting there, bursting to yell out that he doesn&#039;t believe in science and that the vast left wing conspiracy that is global warming will allow hairy armpitted greenies to eat government supplied babies in the streets.  He&#039;s dying to do it, I&#039;m really surprised Red Kerry didn&#039;t try to goad it out of him, to allow him to spout his insanity with the gormless alacrity of Bolt.  The best outcome is to let the CHUDS take their ridiculous conspiracy theory to the public for a vote with Abbort at the helm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minchin is a C.H.U.D. Leinad.</p>
<p>Cloddish<br />
Hidebound<br />
Utterly<br />
Deranged</p>
<p>You could see him sitting there, bursting to yell out that he doesn&#8217;t believe in science and that the vast left wing conspiracy that is global warming will allow hairy armpitted greenies to eat government supplied babies in the streets.  He&#8217;s dying to do it, I&#8217;m really surprised Red Kerry didn&#8217;t try to goad it out of him, to allow him to spout his insanity with the gormless alacrity of Bolt.  The best outcome is to let the CHUDS take their ridiculous conspiracy theory to the public for a vote with Abbort at the helm.</p>
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		<title>By: Leinad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leinad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turnbull looked done to me. Minchin was his usual obnoxious self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turnbull looked done to me. Minchin was his usual obnoxious self.</p>
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		<title>By: Ute Man</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/26/propositions-on-the-liberal-right-week-of-fail/comment-page-3/#comment-839904</link>
		<dc:creator>Ute Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 09:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wuz bein agreeable Joe2 - Mal might be the best of a bad bunch, but he&#039;s still a turd.  Better than a total C.H.U.D. like Minchin or Abbort, but a turd all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wuz bein agreeable Joe2 &#8211; Mal might be the best of a bad bunch, but he&#8217;s still a turd.  Better than a total C.H.U.D. like Minchin or Abbort, but a turd all the same.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 07:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;THIS&quot;@104, Ute Man

WHAT?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;THIS&#8221;@104, Ute Man</p>
<p>WHAT?</p>
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		<title>By: barry Rutherford</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/26/propositions-on-the-liberal-right-week-of-fail/comment-page-3/#comment-839869</link>
		<dc:creator>barry Rutherford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:39:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As of today only Ian Macfarlane &amp; Malcolm Turnbull have displayed any credibility from the Opposition by honouring the ammended agreement they with the Govt on the CPRS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As of today only Ian Macfarlane &amp; Malcolm Turnbull have displayed any credibility from the Opposition by honouring the ammended agreement they with the Govt on the CPRS</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Macknay</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/26/propositions-on-the-liberal-right-week-of-fail/comment-page-3/#comment-839866</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Macknay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 06:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This stuff about buckets of emails from Liberal rusted-ons saying they&#039;ll never vote Liberal again if it passes the CPRS is pure tosh. Where are their preferences gonna go? Labor? It&#039;s just the Liberal rightists talking up their game to try to scare the weaker moderates into rolling Turnbull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This stuff about buckets of emails from Liberal rusted-ons saying they&#8217;ll never vote Liberal again if it passes the CPRS is pure tosh. Where are their preferences gonna go? Labor? It&#8217;s just the Liberal rightists talking up their game to try to scare the weaker moderates into rolling Turnbull.</p>
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		<title>By: hazym</title>
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		<dc:creator>hazym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 03:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes, it is time to just do the right thing. Its all very well to yak about what the political implications are, who&#039;ll get a poll bounce and who won&#039;t, who win/loose the next election etc etc. But sometimes people just have to do the right thing, not the political thing. 

Now true enough the Libs have been dragged kicking and screaming to this, but they are there now. For the right thing is to reject this tax on the basis that its a tax that won&#039;t achieve what it seeks to achieve and will cause untold pain to ordinary Australians for years to come. Rudd may claim that he&#039;s trying to save the GBR or stop Melb bush-fires or whatever the latest hyperbole is, but the fact is this tax and these derisory reductions in so-called carbon pollution will do nothing other than increase the tax burden on Australians. And as the whole climate change myth unravels, the need for all this evaporates as is plain for all to see except those who are so committed to the faith as to simply refuse to acknowledge the significance of climategate.

The Libs will pay a hefty price for this week. But in a decades time, Minchin et al will be able to stand back and say that they were on the correct side of history if not the correct side of the politics.And sometimes that&#039;s the place to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes, it is time to just do the right thing. Its all very well to yak about what the political implications are, who&#8217;ll get a poll bounce and who won&#8217;t, who win/loose the next election etc etc. But sometimes people just have to do the right thing, not the political thing. </p>
<p>Now true enough the Libs have been dragged kicking and screaming to this, but they are there now. For the right thing is to reject this tax on the basis that its a tax that won&#8217;t achieve what it seeks to achieve and will cause untold pain to ordinary Australians for years to come. Rudd may claim that he&#8217;s trying to save the GBR or stop Melb bush-fires or whatever the latest hyperbole is, but the fact is this tax and these derisory reductions in so-called carbon pollution will do nothing other than increase the tax burden on Australians. And as the whole climate change myth unravels, the need for all this evaporates as is plain for all to see except those who are so committed to the faith as to simply refuse to acknowledge the significance of climategate.</p>
<p>The Libs will pay a hefty price for this week. But in a decades time, Minchin et al will be able to stand back and say that they were on the correct side of history if not the correct side of the politics.And sometimes that&#8217;s the place to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DI(NR said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Trouble is, Fran, the buggers’ll write back to you.

I sent Fielding an email a while ago (probably accusing him of being an idiot, or something) and I’m still getting his fucking newsletter.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And what&#039;s wrong with that? Tell him you&#039;ve moved and he&#039;s bothering someone and Ask to have him email it to you at your special new email address. I created a dummy email account for just this purpose. 

Messing with the heads of these sociopaths and morons helps get me through the day. I feel as if I&#039;m doing my bit to send them over the edge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DI(NR said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Trouble is, Fran, the buggers’ll write back to you.</p>
<p>I sent Fielding an email a while ago (probably accusing him of being an idiot, or something) and I’m still getting his fucking newsletter.</p></blockquote>
<p>And what&#8217;s wrong with that? Tell him you&#8217;ve moved and he&#8217;s bothering someone and Ask to have him email it to you at your special new email address. I created a dummy email account for just this purpose. </p>
<p>Messing with the heads of these sociopaths and morons helps get me through the day. I feel as if I&#8217;m doing my bit to send them over the edge.</p>
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		<title>By: Leinad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leinad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Joe takes the leadership he will become the Liberal Beazley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Joe takes the leadership he will become the Liberal Beazley.</p>
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		<title>By: Island View</title>
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		<dc:creator>Island View</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to a few of the comments, the Party Room meeting on Monday will be fascinating as they will all have the latest Newspoll in front of them and which, I&#039;m sure, will show a big bounce for Trunbull and a below 30% number for the party.

I&#039;ll be able to hear the hand wringing all the way up here in Townsville</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to a few of the comments, the Party Room meeting on Monday will be fascinating as they will all have the latest Newspoll in front of them and which, I&#8217;m sure, will show a big bounce for Trunbull and a below 30% number for the party.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be able to hear the hand wringing all the way up here in Townsville</p>
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		<title>By: nasking</title>
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		<dc:creator>nasking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I wrote on Gutter Trash:

...for all we know this could be a long performance piece to try and bring in the Messiah Joe in order to make him look like a saviour, preaching: 

“happily unite under me dear friends &amp; believers...we are a broad church”.

Think of the name he gave his latest new born. 

Labor better be PREPARED. Media, Senate and such.

I’m not bothering to watch Sky News or read the News Ltd. papers &amp; blogs cause this is also part of a plan to make moolah &amp; increase ratings to attract ads I imagine. The Empire likes to be Kingmakers. They’re getting antsy.

Dya think there is any coincidence that Foxtel expands and adds local Sky News at this very point? And adds Peter Van Stressful to their Sky lineup. And The Punch stuff as well. 

Nah.

It’s just like Murdoch got the Dow Jones &amp; Wall Street Journal on the eve of the global downturn &amp; US election? 

It’s a blitzkrieg...again. 

N’</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I wrote on Gutter Trash:</p>
<p>&#8230;for all we know this could be a long performance piece to try and bring in the Messiah Joe in order to make him look like a saviour, preaching: </p>
<p>“happily unite under me dear friends &amp; believers&#8230;we are a broad church”.</p>
<p>Think of the name he gave his latest new born. </p>
<p>Labor better be PREPARED. Media, Senate and such.</p>
<p>I’m not bothering to watch Sky News or read the News Ltd. papers &amp; blogs cause this is also part of a plan to make moolah &amp; increase ratings to attract ads I imagine. The Empire likes to be Kingmakers. They’re getting antsy.</p>
<p>Dya think there is any coincidence that Foxtel expands and adds local Sky News at this very point? And adds Peter Van Stressful to their Sky lineup. And The Punch stuff as well. </p>
<p>Nah.</p>
<p>It’s just like Murdoch got the Dow Jones &amp; Wall Street Journal on the eve of the global downturn &amp; US election? </p>
<p>It’s a blitzkrieg&#8230;again. </p>
<p>N’</p>
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		<title>By: Ute Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ute Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe2 wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;One speech, Mal develops half a testicle and many people have gone gah-gah. Since taking over, as leader, he has done just one thing to rock the conservative Minchin boat. Indeed, his support of playing out the asylum seeker fear card, ad infinitum, is a greater indication of his opportunist and cruel nature than his bungled attempt to stitch up a coup via the muddleheaded Grech.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;THIS&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe2 wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>One speech, Mal develops half a testicle and many people have gone gah-gah. Since taking over, as leader, he has done just one thing to rock the conservative Minchin boat. Indeed, his support of playing out the asylum seeker fear card, ad infinitum, is a greater indication of his opportunist and cruel nature than his bungled attempt to stitch up a coup via the muddleheaded Grech.</p></blockquote>
<p><strong>THIS</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 02:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert M wrote

&quot;....they’re descending into violent recriminations now; at some point Labor calls an election, and (fingers crossed) destroys them on the basis that they are a rabble…and they then descend into further violent post-election recriminations.&quot;

ummm, to adapt Clarke &amp; Dawe, those&#039;d be the post-election recriminations you have immediately after the current round of post-election (and pre-election) recriminations, eh?

Note to self: in the midst of recriminations, it&#039;s always important to know exactly which round of recriminations the current ones belong to.

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert M wrote</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.they’re descending into violent recriminations now; at some point Labor calls an election, and (fingers crossed) destroys them on the basis that they are a rabble…and they then descend into further violent post-election recriminations.&#8221;</p>
<p>ummm, to adapt Clarke &amp; Dawe, those&#8217;d be the post-election recriminations you have immediately after the current round of post-election (and pre-election) recriminations, eh?</p>
<p>Note to self: in the midst of recriminations, it&#8217;s always important to know exactly which round of recriminations the current ones belong to.<br />
 <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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