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	<title>Comments on: Abbott will stand on Monday</title>
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		<title>By: Zorronsky</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/27/abbott-will-challenge/#comment-123709</link>
		<dc:creator>Zorronsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Kevin Andrews on MTP, he&#039;s still in the leadership contest and as a denier [vigorous nodding as the question was put to him] believes they have the overwhelming majority of voters on side. [Galaxy poll] Outright laughter by the panel not shown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Kevin Andrews on MTP, he&#8217;s still in the leadership contest and as a denier [vigorous nodding as the question was put to him] believes they have the overwhelming majority of voters on side. [Galaxy poll] Outright laughter by the panel not shown.</p>
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		<title>By: keIThY</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/27/abbott-will-challenge/#comment-123708</link>
		<dc:creator>keIThY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 19:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bottoms up people: ThiS iS (Liberal Party) hisTorY iN The MaKinG!!! lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bottoms up people: ThiS iS (Liberal Party) hisTorY iN The MaKinG!!! lol</p>
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		<title>By: Fran in a Daggett moment ...</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran in a Daggett moment ...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK CS@110

I missed your post from two days ago but as you said it first I suppose it&#039;s right for you to claim IP on Bolt as an a-p. I&#039;m going to claim for Turnbull working in concert with him though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK CS@110</p>
<p>I missed your post from two days ago but as you said it first I suppose it&#8217;s right for you to claim IP on Bolt as an a-p. I&#8217;m going to claim for Turnbull working in concert with him though.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/27/abbott-will-challenge/#comment-123706</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew E,

In 1996, Howard was about to get them into office. Whoever wins on Tuesday is not about to get anybody into office.

I don&#039;t care. Just wondering, is all. And its just as interesting as who won&#039;t be in. Like all the people that left, for starters. Turnbull has never struck me as the forgiving kind.

But either way, who ever wins will probably wish they didn&#039;t about a week later.

I want to see Minchin win it. It would be like putting Karl Rove in the spotlight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew E,</p>
<p>In 1996, Howard was about to get them into office. Whoever wins on Tuesday is not about to get anybody into office.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care. Just wondering, is all. And its just as interesting as who won&#8217;t be in. Like all the people that left, for starters. Turnbull has never struck me as the forgiving kind.</p>
<p>But either way, who ever wins will probably wish they didn&#8217;t about a week later.</p>
<p>I want to see Minchin win it. It would be like putting Karl Rove in the spotlight.</p>
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		<title>By: Ootz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/27/abbott-will-challenge/#comment-123705</link>
		<dc:creator>Ootz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you recon Tony would get &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.abc.net.au/events/2009/11/conspiracies-and-the-ipcc.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt;? Or is he another ALP troll DagFran?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you recon Tony would get <a href="http://blogs.abc.net.au/events/2009/11/conspiracies-and-the-ipcc.html" rel="nofollow">this</a>? Or is he another ALP troll DagFran?</p>
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		<title>By: su</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/27/abbott-will-challenge/#comment-123704</link>
		<dc:creator>su</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 11:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Blue Monday cassock remix would totally suit Katz&#039;s mortification vid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Blue Monday cassock remix would totally suit Katz&#8217;s mortification vid.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/27/abbott-will-challenge/#comment-123703</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Tony Abbott has not laid a glove on Labor – Jenny Macklin should have been an ex-Minister by now, she’s useless.&quot;

To be fair to Tony she stole all his creepy ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tony Abbott has not laid a glove on Labor – Jenny Macklin should have been an ex-Minister by now, she’s useless.&#8221;</p>
<p>To be fair to Tony she stole all his creepy ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Strocchi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Strocchi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/27/abbott-will-challenge/#comment-840113&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Leinad@#108&lt;/a&gt; Nov 28th, 2009 at 4:33 pm said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Assuming that’s correct (and how couldn’t it be when Jack and I agree on something?) I’m guessing its too much to hope for that the commentariat would learn something from it and pay a litte more attention to how the debate plays outside their warrens in C-town.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

The MSM commentariat feed off the horse-race narrative of politics, based on a specious he-said, she-said form of balance spiced up with some agenda-driven insider sourcing.

Of course leadership contests, which play to human beings gossipy obsession with high-status positions, completely swamp all broader considerations of politics, let alone policy. Hence we have the spectacle of Peter van Onselen, once a good political scientist now rapidly degenerating to hack.

To get ahead of the curve the competent analyst needs to crunch numbers or at least do some Back of the Envelope calculations and interpret them with a healthy dose of standard theory. He also needs to make predictions and constantly review them in the light of evidence. This just does not make for good copy or feed the inflated egos of by-lined leaders.

The delusionist blogitariat gets the worst of both worlds since it relies on retailed conspiracy theories to stoke the fires of public interest, together with a completely bogus form of science to add a thin veneer of respectability.

But it obviously sells, going by the meteoric career of Comrade Bolt and his grass roots revolt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/27/abbott-will-challenge/#comment-840113" rel="nofollow">Leinad@#108</a> Nov 28th, 2009 at 4:33 pm said:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Assuming that’s correct (and how couldn’t it be when Jack and I agree on something?) I’m guessing its too much to hope for that the commentariat would learn something from it and pay a litte more attention to how the debate plays outside their warrens in C-town.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>The MSM commentariat feed off the horse-race narrative of politics, based on a specious he-said, she-said form of balance spiced up with some agenda-driven insider sourcing.</p>
<p>Of course leadership contests, which play to human beings gossipy obsession with high-status positions, completely swamp all broader considerations of politics, let alone policy. Hence we have the spectacle of Peter van Onselen, once a good political scientist now rapidly degenerating to hack.</p>
<p>To get ahead of the curve the competent analyst needs to crunch numbers or at least do some Back of the Envelope calculations and interpret them with a healthy dose of standard theory. He also needs to make predictions and constantly review them in the light of evidence. This just does not make for good copy or feed the inflated egos of by-lined leaders.</p>
<p>The delusionist blogitariat gets the worst of both worlds since it relies on retailed conspiracy theories to stoke the fires of public interest, together with a completely bogus form of science to add a thin veneer of respectability.</p>
<p>But it obviously sells, going by the meteoric career of Comrade Bolt and his grass roots revolt.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/27/abbott-will-challenge/#comment-123701</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I&#039;m with those above thinking that Turnbull will win. His liabilities are his strengths this time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I&#8217;m with those above thinking that Turnbull will win. His liabilities are his strengths this time around.</p>
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		<title>By: carbonsink</title>
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		<dc:creator>carbonsink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FIADM @ 110: I &lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/26/tony-abbott-resigns-from-liberal-frontbench/#comment-839390&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;figured this out&lt;/a&gt; two days ago:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Climate denialism contributed to Howard’s demise, and now climate denialism is splitting the Liberal Party in two.

I’ve worked it out. Bolt is still an ALP man!

Andrew Bolt you are brilliant, just brilliant! You’ve split the Liberal Party over climate denialism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FIADM @ 110: I <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/11/26/tony-abbott-resigns-from-liberal-frontbench/#comment-839390" rel="nofollow">figured this out</a> two days ago:</p>
<blockquote><p>Climate denialism contributed to Howard’s demise, and now climate denialism is splitting the Liberal Party in two.</p>
<p>I’ve worked it out. Bolt is still an ALP man!</p>
<p>Andrew Bolt you are brilliant, just brilliant! You’ve split the Liberal Party over climate denialism.</p></blockquote>
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