Comments on: PNG's LNG http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Mon, 13 Feb 2012 20:52:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Eric Hela http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/#comment-115807 Eric Hela Sun, 17 Jan 2010 05:39:52 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=11498#comment-115807 The PNG politicians aspecially the politicians from new Hela Province, the home province of the LNG project have hijacked the Licensed Based Benefit Sharing Agreement to their benefit and benefit of very few landowner leaders. For the Angore project, one of the 4 project PRL sites, the frastrated leaders tore the agreement at the time of the agreement so there is no agreement in place. In sum, the politicians and the developer will force the project but there will be more resistance on the ground and the fat dogs in Waigani -the National Parliament of PNG, will get fatter will people continue to fight for thier right. The PNG politicians aspecially the politicians from new Hela Province, the home province of the LNG project have hijacked the Licensed Based Benefit Sharing Agreement to their benefit and benefit of very few landowner leaders. For the Angore project, one of the 4 project PRL sites, the frastrated leaders tore the agreement at the time of the agreement so there is no agreement in place. In sum, the politicians and the developer will force the project but there will be more resistance on the ground and the fat dogs in Waigani -the National Parliament of PNG, will get fatter will people continue to fight for thier right.

]]> By: Nana Levu http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/#comment-115806 Nana Levu Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:48:56 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=11498#comment-115806 Train up PNG nationals! Right. Exxon want to get in and out before PNG nationals wake up to how exploited they are. Look what happened to Bougainville Copper when they trained up Francis Ona to be a surveyor. Train up PNG nationals! Right. Exxon want to get in and out before PNG nationals wake up to how exploited they are. Look what happened to Bougainville Copper when they trained up Francis Ona to be a surveyor.

]]> By: deconst http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/#comment-115805 deconst Thu, 10 Dec 2009 00:21:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=11498#comment-115805 It feels somewhat like Nauru and phosphate mining. I can't see this LNG project as is doing much to relieve poverty in that country.   Just off the top of my head, if there was a commitment to set up educational facilities in Port Moresby and other large towns to train up staff - from the very basis of high school education through to tertiary level - instead of importing them from overseas, it would probably be a lot better for the country. It feels somewhat like Nauru and phosphate mining. I can’t see this LNG project as is doing much to relieve poverty in that country.
 
Just off the top of my head, if there was a commitment to set up educational facilities in Port Moresby and other large towns to train up staff – from the very basis of high school education through to tertiary level – instead of importing them from overseas, it would probably be a lot better for the country.

]]> By: Nana Levu http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/#comment-115804 Nana Levu Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:43:32 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=11498#comment-115804 OilSearch has had a long time committment to PNG so I hope they can act as an advocate to reign in Exxon's polluting practices. Exxon Mobil's Baytown refinery, the largest in the nation (US), got the company's biggest fine — about $500,000. It included 23 offenses, including a 17½-hour release that included 5 tons of sulfur dioxide, a half-ton of ammonia, more than 130 tons of carbon monoxide and 900 pounds of hydrogen cyanide. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6754870.html OilSearch has had a long time committment to PNG so I hope they can act as an advocate to reign in Exxon’s polluting practices.

Exxon Mobil’s Baytown refinery, the largest in the nation (US), got the company’s biggest fine — about $500,000. It included 23 offenses, including a 17½-hour release that included 5 tons of sulfur dioxide, a half-ton of ammonia, more than 130 tons of carbon monoxide and 900 pounds of hydrogen cyanide. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6754870.html

]]> By: Steve 1 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/#comment-115803 Steve 1 Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:18:51 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=11498#comment-115803 A massive increase of wealth for a nation like PNG is likely create massive problems for them, opposed to the massive problems they currently face. There's an old saying, "Rich or Poor, Rich is Better". The opportunity to deal with the problems of corruption, environmental degradation, violence towards women, improving educational opportunities, health services can come about when financial viability is achieved. as we see in so many third world and emerging nations around the world, unless you have good govenance, the rule of law and an equitable distribution of wealth, it can all end disastrously for the people. I am a cup half full person so hopefully PNG can take this opportunity and make the life of their people a whole lot better than it is now. A massive increase of wealth for a nation like PNG is likely create massive problems for them, opposed to the massive problems they currently face. There’s an old saying, “Rich or Poor, Rich is Better”. The opportunity to deal with the problems of corruption, environmental degradation, violence towards women, improving educational opportunities, health services can come about when financial viability is achieved. as we see in so many third world and emerging nations around the world, unless you have good govenance, the rule of law and an equitable distribution of wealth, it can all end disastrously for the people. I am a cup half full person so hopefully PNG can take this opportunity and make the life of their people a whole lot better than it is now.

]]> By: pablo http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/#comment-115802 pablo Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:49:52 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=11498#comment-115802 I can see the spectre of Bourgainville copper in this if the PNG 'big men' don't get it right in terms already discussed. Whether the PNG highlanders understand the terms of a Timor style fund will be an interesting question. I was surprised by the very low percentage of children who attend any sort of schooling in PNG. I can see the spectre of Bourgainville copper in this if the PNG ‘big men’ don’t get it right in terms already discussed. Whether the PNG highlanders understand the terms of a Timor style fund will be an interesting question. I was surprised by the very low percentage of children who attend any sort of schooling in PNG.

]]> By: Ute Man http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/#comment-115801 Ute Man Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:23:07 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=11498#comment-115801 So, the feds consider this a peak oil play, without acknowledging peak oil as a strategic threat? Clearly the chinese take the idea pretty seriously if they're investing in gas wells that will be lucky to last 10 years. So, the feds consider this a peak oil play, without acknowledging peak oil as a strategic threat? Clearly the chinese take the idea pretty seriously if they’re investing in gas wells that will be lucky to last 10 years.

]]> By: wbb http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/#comment-115800 wbb Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:15:17 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=11498#comment-115800 We worry about China developing the project because they can then set terms on the purchase of the LNG. We'd hate to see that - as we want to charge them top dollar for our own LNG. We worry about China developing the project because they can then set terms on the purchase of the LNG. We’d hate to see that – as we want to charge them top dollar for our own LNG.

]]> By: Robert Merkel http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/#comment-115799 Robert Merkel Wed, 09 Dec 2009 12:05:13 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=11498#comment-115799 Strategic reasons, Ute Man. I think the Australian government would very much prefer it if PNG continued to see us as their friendly regional power, rather than looking first to Beijing. There may be an element of paranoia in such an attitude, but only an element. Strategic reasons, Ute Man.

I think the Australian government would very much prefer it if PNG continued to see us as their friendly regional power, rather than looking first to Beijing.

There may be an element of paranoia in such an attitude, but only an element.

]]> By: Ute Man http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/09/pngs-lng/#comment-115798 Ute Man Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:49:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/?p=11498#comment-115798 Why would we worry about the chinese developing gas projects in PNG? Domestic politics? Why would we worry about the chinese developing gas projects in PNG? Domestic politics?

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