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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/19/saturday-salon-220/#comment-117251</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 01:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>murph, I heard that report, as well, and found it most interesting. It was Mark Lynas, attached to the Maldives delegation, who leaked the story. The link to his original article in The Guardian is below.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/22/copenhagen-climate-change-mark-lynas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>murph, I heard that report, as well, and found it most interesting. It was Mark Lynas, attached to the Maldives delegation, who leaked the story. The link to his original article in The Guardian is below.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/22/copenhagen-climate-change-mark-lynas" rel="nofollow">http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/dec/22/copenhagen-climate-change-mark-lynas</a></p>
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		<title>By: murph the surf.</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/19/saturday-salon-220/#comment-117250</link>
		<dc:creator>murph the surf.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 00:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was fascinated by the description given of the final rounds of the negotiations at Copenhagen.
This was the report of an ABC correspondent.
 In the room were Obama and Rudd and other PMs and Presidents but the chinese were represented by a middle level negotiator from the Foreign Affairs ?( which department is unclear).
While our leaders attempted to finalise a deal the chinese negotiator would have to leave the room and call his superiors before he could proceed.
President Wen was not present at any stage.
Is this as the reporter thought a blast of the new reality - we can wait while the chinese decide?
Or has this been over-interpreted by xenophobic and parochial  foreign devils eager to cast blame on the victims of the historic inequalities regarding CO2 pollution?
I&#039;m curious to hear the opinions of experienced sinophiles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was fascinated by the description given of the final rounds of the negotiations at Copenhagen.<br />
This was the report of an ABC correspondent.<br />
 In the room were Obama and Rudd and other PMs and Presidents but the chinese were represented by a middle level negotiator from the Foreign Affairs ?( which department is unclear).<br />
While our leaders attempted to finalise a deal the chinese negotiator would have to leave the room and call his superiors before he could proceed.<br />
President Wen was not present at any stage.<br />
Is this as the reporter thought a blast of the new reality &#8211; we can wait while the chinese decide?<br />
Or has this been over-interpreted by xenophobic and parochial  foreign devils eager to cast blame on the victims of the historic inequalities regarding CO2 pollution?<br />
I&#8217;m curious to hear the opinions of experienced sinophiles.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Merry Christmas  j_p_z@18. The vid of Tarzan,Tonto &amp; Frankenstein is a crackup and I sent it on. For those who missed it....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ubem25WyN8&amp;NR=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merry Christmas  j_p_z@18. The vid of Tarzan,Tonto &amp; Frankenstein is a crackup and I sent it on. For those who missed it&#8230;.<br />
<span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/19/saturday-salon-220/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/5Ubem25WyN8/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Fran Barlow</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2009/12/19/saturday-salon-220/#comment-117248</link>
		<dc:creator>Fran Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 03:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As above I saw &lt;i&gt;Avatar&lt;/i&gt; last night.

One of the most perverse reactions was from &lt;i&gt;Andrew Blot&lt;/i&gt; who in his now familar rants claimed that it was green propaganda while asserting that it would finally mark the end of environmentalism.

&lt;blockquote&gt;MOST people will date the death of the great global warming scare not from the Copenhagen fiasco - boring! - but from Avatar.

It won’t be the world’s most expensive warmist conference but the world’s most expensive movie that will stick in most memories as the precise point at which the green faith started to shrivel from sheer stupidity.

Avatar, in fact, is the warmist dream filmed in 3D. Staring through your glasses at James Cameron’s spectacular $400 million creation, you can finally see where this global warming cult was going.

And you can see, too, everything that will now slowly pull it back to earth.

December 2009. Note it down. The beginning of the end, even as Avatar becomes possibly the biggest-grossing film in history. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

For me, this convinces me that whatever Blot once was, he is now completely unhinged -- a psychopath. No properly socialised person who saw the film could use it as a springboard for embracing the filth merchant cause, and Blot is, after all, writing this because he fears just the opposite. His blog groupies weren&#039;t slow to express this tension. For Blot now though, it&#039;s like someone with reflexive OCD. He sees red where others see green and he can&#039;t not vent about it. Those indigenes on &lt;i&gt;Pandora&lt;/i&gt; were metaphorically sticking him and his groupies through the heart with every arrow and spear they drove into the invading terrestrial hordes. With this latest piece, Blot at least has dropped the fiction that opposition to mitigation is not part of a broader disgust for things environmental and a preference for rape and pillage.

It did occur to me though that in theory at least, a &lt;i&gt;&#039;true&#039;&lt;/i&gt; conservative might well object to Blot&#039;s piece along the following lines:
&lt;blockquote&gt;What&#039;s more conservative than wanting to protect your land against alien invaders, who want to rob you and trash your traditional culture and murder you? Wouldn&#039;t any true conservative side with the little people who just want to be left alone against greedy robber barons? Isn&#039;t respect for the dead and for the wisdom of the ages to be preferred to the mad grasp for power and self-gratification? What did the original sin in the Garden of Eden entail? &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Perhaps it&#039;s time for some of us to do a little &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)#Concern_troll&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;concern trolling&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/a&gt; over in the &lt;i&gt;Blotosphere&lt;/i&gt;. This he is going to find damned annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As above I saw <i>Avatar</i> last night.</p>
<p>One of the most perverse reactions was from <i>Andrew Blot</i> who in his now familar rants claimed that it was green propaganda while asserting that it would finally mark the end of environmentalism.</p>
<blockquote><p>MOST people will date the death of the great global warming scare not from the Copenhagen fiasco &#8211; boring! &#8211; but from Avatar.</p>
<p>It won’t be the world’s most expensive warmist conference but the world’s most expensive movie that will stick in most memories as the precise point at which the green faith started to shrivel from sheer stupidity.</p>
<p>Avatar, in fact, is the warmist dream filmed in 3D. Staring through your glasses at James Cameron’s spectacular $400 million creation, you can finally see where this global warming cult was going.</p>
<p>And you can see, too, everything that will now slowly pull it back to earth.</p>
<p>December 2009. Note it down. The beginning of the end, even as Avatar becomes possibly the biggest-grossing film in history. </p></blockquote>
<p>For me, this convinces me that whatever Blot once was, he is now completely unhinged &#8212; a psychopath. No properly socialised person who saw the film could use it as a springboard for embracing the filth merchant cause, and Blot is, after all, writing this because he fears just the opposite. His blog groupies weren&#8217;t slow to express this tension. For Blot now though, it&#8217;s like someone with reflexive OCD. He sees red where others see green and he can&#8217;t not vent about it. Those indigenes on <i>Pandora</i> were metaphorically sticking him and his groupies through the heart with every arrow and spear they drove into the invading terrestrial hordes. With this latest piece, Blot at least has dropped the fiction that opposition to mitigation is not part of a broader disgust for things environmental and a preference for rape and pillage.</p>
<p>It did occur to me though that in theory at least, a <i>&#8216;true&#8217;</i> conservative might well object to Blot&#8217;s piece along the following lines:</p>
<blockquote><p>What&#8217;s more conservative than wanting to protect your land against alien invaders, who want to rob you and trash your traditional culture and murder you? Wouldn&#8217;t any true conservative side with the little people who just want to be left alone against greedy robber barons? Isn&#8217;t respect for the dead and for the wisdom of the ages to be preferred to the mad grasp for power and self-gratification? What did the original sin in the Garden of Eden entail? </p></blockquote>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s time for some of us to do a little <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)#Concern_troll" rel="nofollow"><i>concern trolling</i></a> over in the <i>Blotosphere</i>. This he is going to find damned annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Been watching the second series of Upstairs and Downstairs. Better than the first. Though I suspect the series has a very conservative bent. Like the one radical in it goes from bohemian to socialist to little shopkeeper and is showing all the signs of turning into a super capitalist. Still, its fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Been watching the second series of Upstairs and Downstairs. Better than the first. Though I suspect the series has a very conservative bent. Like the one radical in it goes from bohemian to socialist to little shopkeeper and is showing all the signs of turning into a super capitalist. Still, its fun.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visually, Avatar is the most stunning movie I&#039;ve ever seen. Make sure you see it in 3D as well.

Now if Cameron had spent just a little time on the plot (Dances with Wolves merged with the Battle of Endor from Revenge of the Jedi) it could have been an overall brilliant movie. Even with quibbles about the plot, Avatar was surprisingly moving. Those tired old tropes were included for a reason - they still work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visually, Avatar is the most stunning movie I&#8217;ve ever seen. Make sure you see it in 3D as well.</p>
<p>Now if Cameron had spent just a little time on the plot (Dances with Wolves merged with the Battle of Endor from Revenge of the Jedi) it could have been an overall brilliant movie. Even with quibbles about the plot, Avatar was surprisingly moving. Those tired old tropes were included for a reason &#8211; they still work.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;romance...&lt;/blockquote&gt;
ick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>romance&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>ick!</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 09:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got back from watching &lt;i&gt;Avatar&lt;/i&gt;

Simply awesome! You have to see it. I won&#039;t spoil the stopry but bring your tissues.

Action, CGI, environmental and indigenous issues, romance ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got back from watching <i>Avatar</i></p>
<p>Simply awesome! You have to see it. I won&#8217;t spoil the stopry but bring your tissues.</p>
<p>Action, CGI, environmental and indigenous issues, romance &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Background, Fine:

The kitten is very traumatised, having been swung by the tail and slammed dunked by  so called humans, had her mother euthanased for being feral, and etc, and so, I would rather avoid a trip to the vet, given that&#039;s where she just came from, given that the vet agrees it would cause further trauma to return there, having been traumatised by all the baying canines, and only just getting used my place. But thanks for that.

However, good news, Oootz and David. No need for mind altering substances.  I have just called the Cat Society and lucky for me one of them is coming to have a chat to Blair and explain to her that she needs a manicure and would she mind very much, if she had a manicure, just a quick nail file, as it would be a great help to all of us if she acceded to this request.

That&#039;s what the Cat Society lady told me. She told me she would talk to the cat about it, see how the cat feels about it.

And now I&#039;m rather looking forward seeing how this pans out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Background, Fine:</p>
<p>The kitten is very traumatised, having been swung by the tail and slammed dunked by  so called humans, had her mother euthanased for being feral, and etc, and so, I would rather avoid a trip to the vet, given that&#8217;s where she just came from, given that the vet agrees it would cause further trauma to return there, having been traumatised by all the baying canines, and only just getting used my place. But thanks for that.</p>
<p>However, good news, Oootz and David. No need for mind altering substances.  I have just called the Cat Society and lucky for me one of them is coming to have a chat to Blair and explain to her that she needs a manicure and would she mind very much, if she had a manicure, just a quick nail file, as it would be a great help to all of us if she acceded to this request.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what the Cat Society lady told me. She told me she would talk to the cat about it, see how the cat feels about it.</p>
<p>And now I&#8217;m rather looking forward seeing how this pans out.</p>
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		<title>By: Ootz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ootz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 07:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got any of that Whiskey left Casey(for you and the cat)? Safest to use one of those pet grooming services though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got any of that Whiskey left Casey(for you and the cat)? Safest to use one of those pet grooming services though.</p>
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