great reply.

Changing world where words and reason count for nothing when people like Spencer want plain justice.
Then the system and others are offended when a person jumps up and down at the injustice.
For me i see defensive behavior on the part of the “system” instead of negotiation and the pursuit of justice.

When nothing works all you have left to do is jump up and down?
System clearly fails to provide justice, accountability and a fair go for those who are not rich and well-connected.

Half

WTF?

PSS In #321 I made comments about you that go against your credit as person who is likely to use truth in debate. I shall tell you that when you who make a statement:- To quote you “Spencer increasingly appears to be a troubled but typical vexatious complainant.” The use of the word ‘but’ divides the sentance into two parts divided by the word ‘but’. Socialists, apologists, and ‘it should not food on the lowlands’ people use this word ‘but’ as a contradiction to truth.
Truth does not exist for the likes of you. If it did you would have responded to my criticism of your lack of foundation in your #321 statement.

Had you listened to Peter Spencer’s last verbal transmission even you may not have claimed him as ‘Vexatious’. You will find no other to agree with you. Even describing Peter as “typical” has as much sense as describing Ramboo as ‘typical.’

Now that you have taken up the name ‘Sceptic’ I sincerely hope the Climate Change Sceptics will change their name to Climate Change Realists (or Actualists) as you demolished any credibility that the unfortunate word ‘Sceptic’ may had had.

So amongst you appauling advice to me by yourself about how I should conduct myself with regard to Peter Spencer I have seriously looked for something of value. After all I called and begged for advice. Peter endeavours to extort nothing. Peter is the one who has been extorted. I agree that there are aspects of desparation in the whole circumstance. As there is no extortion attempt the desparation aspect can only refer to the current horror. It is truely pathetic how a man such as Bob Carr with the credientials that he has and the cemetary that he has in his wardrobe could have the pathetic people of NSW vote him in to enact such Nationalisation Leglislation.

I am a member of Sea Sheperd (Interventionists), I feed fish, I don’t eat them. So I have the credit to ask you this. Do you refer to an anti-whaler person as a “Complainant” or as a “Protester”?

Seriously that is a rhetorical question on my part. As you do call them protestors. I also refer to Peter Spencer as a Protestor. You call him a ‘complainant’ So you can see that I hold you with the same contempt that I hold for Bob Carr. (And his supporters and appologists. That contempt also extends to Rudd and Turnbull and their supporters).

And then you blatently and with malice aforethought refer to me as being part of a groupe of supporters who are “frauds, brigands and charlatans”.

Carr & Kyoto, Rudd and Turnbull supported by Heffernan have been party to the fraud of removing Peter’s control over his ‘own’ land. A rip-off is only a rip-off if it compulsory. A bandit and highwayman a robber and a looter is what Robin Hood is. Robin Hood took from the rich, bribed the poor and partied with the rest. Sums up Rudd well. Bob Carr laughed like a charlatan (See him on youtude) as with slight of hand he rudded (robbed) NSW landholders, with consent of the likes of Heffenan.

See also below open Email letter from Professor of Public Law Suri Ratnapala dated 3rd December 2009 http://loveforlife.com.au/content/09/12/03/peter-spencer-hunger-strike-driven-drastic-measures-australian-government-and-banks.

“Dear Peter,

I am in the US and then in Europe until the end of February on my sabbatical. I sincerely hope that you will not come to any harm and that the authorities will meet your just terms.

Your cause is the cause of many thousands of honest and productive persons on whose lives and labour the prosperity of Australia was built and whose property the government has now stolen.

Your cause is the cause of every Australian who cares about the rule of law, constitutional government and political morality.

Your cause is the cause of every decent human being who values fair play. Your cause is Australia’s cause.

I look forward to contributing to your cause when I return to Australia.

Hoping that you will have a Happy Christmas,

Kind regards,

Suri

Suri Ratnapala, LLB; LLM; PhD
Professor of Public Law
Centre for Public, International & Comparative Law
T C Beirne School of Law
University of Queensland
CRICOS Provider No 00025B”

I mean, isn’t that what his parents did, which was supposedly his motivation for acquiring so much marginal land in such an environmentally sensitive area?

The follow quote, Tree clearing laws infringe rights, by well known civil libertian, Terry O’Gorman, was made in 2003 just before the Qld vegetation management laws were passed.

But the President of the Australian Council for Civil Liberties,says the laws take away some basic rights of landholders.

He says it includes allowing Government officials to obtain criminal histories and enter properties without consent, and also takes away the long standing defence, of an honest and reasonable mistake.

“We acknowledge that there is a problem with illegal tree clearing, but you don’t deal with a serious problem by throwing fundamental civil liberties principals out the window, so it clearly is the thin edge of the wedge and we’re asking the country members from both the government and the national party to stand up and be counted and defeat these objectional parts of the bill.”