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		<title>By: anthony nolan</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. I&#039;m a Pastafarian then and off to the Drum to advance the cause ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. I&#8217;m a Pastafarian then and off to the Drum to advance the cause ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/02/28/lead-buried/#comment-100688</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 23:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/02/28/lead-buried/comment-page-2/#comment-861844&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@anthony nolan&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Maybe it is time that we came up with an AGW equivalent of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster:&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Umm - the CotFSM is already an AGW church.    &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster#Pirates_and_global_warming&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;There&#039;s a graph and everything.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/02/28/lead-buried/comment-page-2/#comment-861844" rel="nofollow">@anthony nolan</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Maybe it is time that we came up with an AGW equivalent of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster:</p></blockquote>
<p>Umm &#8211; the CotFSM is already an AGW church.    <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster#Pirates_and_global_warming" rel="nofollow">There&#8217;s a graph and everything.</a></p>
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		<title>By: anthony nolan</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/02/28/lead-buried/#comment-100687</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it is time that we came up with an AGW equivalent of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster

And then demanded equal time on the ABC and other fora for our views in the interests of balance.

It clearly needn&#039;t have any relationship to real science. In fact, the less the better. I actually think that AGW data is a scientologist plot. Perhaps we can get some senators to raise the matter in Parliament.

Any better suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it is time that we came up with an AGW equivalent of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster</a></p>
<p>And then demanded equal time on the ABC and other fora for our views in the interests of balance.</p>
<p>It clearly needn&#8217;t have any relationship to real science. In fact, the less the better. I actually think that AGW data is a scientologist plot. Perhaps we can get some senators to raise the matter in Parliament.</p>
<p>Any better suggestions?</p>
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		<title>By: rosie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/02/28/lead-buried/#comment-100686</link>
		<dc:creator>rosie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who might be interested in the intricacies of comment moderation at the ABC, there are two separate moderation teams. The ABC personality analysis stuff gets moderated in the Brisbane News Online office, and the Unleashed stuff that&#039;s commissioned from outside the ABC (which includes Hamilton&#039;s pieces and Moran, Switzer, etc) gets done by the moderators who moderated Unleashed before it came under the Drum banner. I believe they&#039;re in Tasmania? So that may explain some of the apparent inconsistencies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who might be interested in the intricacies of comment moderation at the ABC, there are two separate moderation teams. The ABC personality analysis stuff gets moderated in the Brisbane News Online office, and the Unleashed stuff that&#8217;s commissioned from outside the ABC (which includes Hamilton&#8217;s pieces and Moran, Switzer, etc) gets done by the moderators who moderated Unleashed before it came under the Drum banner. I believe they&#8217;re in Tasmania? So that may explain some of the apparent inconsistencies.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Jones</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/02/28/lead-buried/#comment-100685</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 06:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like scientists to boycott the ABC until they sign a pledge to follow their charter to the letter.

I&#039;d also like all media treated with utmost suspicion to:
1. taping of all inteviews to test veracity of &quot;quotes&quot;
and
2. preference to all journos who do a checkback
3. All journos who verbal or repeated pseudo-scientific claims to be given one opportunity to retract or be black-balled (no interviews)
4. Some media outlets to be banned permanently until they pledge to abandon their war on science (established through organised violations of 3 at the editorial level)

Pseudoscience (e.g., climate denialism) would have to be established at the peak scientific body level and only the most egregious examples chosen to allow genuine scientific disagreements and differences in interpretation to survive. A register of such examples would need to be made public.

Therefore I would not expect anything like this to get up (cannot see any peak scientific body acting in its own interest in such a risky way).

And before anyone complains about freedom of speech, it&#039;s freedom not to speak because what you say will not be reported accurately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like scientists to boycott the ABC until they sign a pledge to follow their charter to the letter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like all media treated with utmost suspicion to:<br />
1. taping of all inteviews to test veracity of &#8220;quotes&#8221;<br />
and<br />
2. preference to all journos who do a checkback<br />
3. All journos who verbal or repeated pseudo-scientific claims to be given one opportunity to retract or be black-balled (no interviews)<br />
4. Some media outlets to be banned permanently until they pledge to abandon their war on science (established through organised violations of 3 at the editorial level)</p>
<p>Pseudoscience (e.g., climate denialism) would have to be established at the peak scientific body level and only the most egregious examples chosen to allow genuine scientific disagreements and differences in interpretation to survive. A register of such examples would need to be made public.</p>
<p>Therefore I would not expect anything like this to get up (cannot see any peak scientific body acting in its own interest in such a risky way).</p>
<p>And before anyone complains about freedom of speech, it&#8217;s freedom not to speak because what you say will not be reported accurately.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/02/28/lead-buried/#comment-100684</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another good article from Bernard Keane. He seem to be just about the only journo awake to what&#039;s going on at the ABC and its gradual self-destruction as a quality, independent news organisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another good article from Bernard Keane. He seem to be just about the only journo awake to what&#8217;s going on at the ABC and its gradual self-destruction as a quality, independent news organisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/02/28/lead-buried/#comment-100683</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt;: [by Mark] &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/03/02/balance-without-judgement-your-abc/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bernard Keane&lt;/a&gt; takes aim at the ABC&#039;s &quot;balance without judgement&quot; and rebuts Moran and Tom Switzer&#039;s &lt;i&gt;Drum&lt;/i&gt; post today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Update</b>: [by Mark] <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/2010/03/02/balance-without-judgement-your-abc/" rel="nofollow">Bernard Keane</a> takes aim at the ABC&#8217;s &#8220;balance without judgement&#8221; and rebuts Moran and Tom Switzer&#8217;s <i>Drum</i> post today.</p>
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		<title>By: Ootz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/02/28/lead-buried/#comment-100682</link>
		<dc:creator>Ootz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 04:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Duke@65 embarrassing effort. I love the pic though, how did that get in? Is that J Greens tongue in cheek? Might be doing us all a favor to drag these characters into &#039;neutral ground&#039; so they can expose themselves for the gaggle of geese they really are. By the looks it is quite a civilised turkey shoot. Even the likes of Andrew Glikson, wearing khaki, gum boots and gloves, is wielding his double action.

And as for the Quad, agree Gummo T, fair shake of the sauce bottle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Duke@65 embarrassing effort. I love the pic though, how did that get in? Is that J Greens tongue in cheek? Might be doing us all a favor to drag these characters into &#8216;neutral ground&#8217; so they can expose themselves for the gaggle of geese they really are. By the looks it is quite a civilised turkey shoot. Even the likes of Andrew Glikson, wearing khaki, gum boots and gloves, is wielding his double action.</p>
<p>And as for the Quad, agree Gummo T, fair shake of the sauce bottle!</p>
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		<title>By: josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 02:10:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whenever I feel the slightest doubt about the reality of AGW, I find the arguments put forward by the best and brightest in the &quot;CRU Truth&quot; camp restores my pessimism. Seriously, if this is the best critique of mainstream scientific opinion they can come up with, it must be pretty rock solid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whenever I feel the slightest doubt about the reality of AGW, I find the arguments put forward by the best and brightest in the &#8220;CRU Truth&#8221; camp restores my pessimism. Seriously, if this is the best critique of mainstream scientific opinion they can come up with, it must be pretty rock solid.</p>
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		<title>By: David Irving (no relation)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/02/28/lead-buried/#comment-100680</link>
		<dc:creator>David Irving (no relation)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t normally bother either, Mark, but I was irritiated enough with Kelly&#039;s idiocy to comment (at that point, I don&#039;t think there were any other comments up), then vain enough to go back after a suitable interval to see if my barb had struck home. Clearly it had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t normally bother either, Mark, but I was irritiated enough with Kelly&#8217;s idiocy to comment (at that point, I don&#8217;t think there were any other comments up), then vain enough to go back after a suitable interval to see if my barb had struck home. Clearly it had.</p>
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