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	<title>Comments on: Feminism conquers the Liberal Party</title>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/09/feminism-conquers-the-liberal-party/#comment-102791</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you trying to crush an honest businessman with intellectual property costs Andrew? Road to serfdom, piles of skulls, etc. etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you trying to crush an honest businessman with intellectual property costs Andrew? Road to serfdom, piles of skulls, etc. etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/09/feminism-conquers-the-liberal-party/#comment-102790</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure you&#039;ll make a motza from it Liam, and am equally sure you&#039;ll sling me a percentage of your earnings therefrom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ll make a motza from it Liam, and am equally sure you&#8217;ll sling me a percentage of your earnings therefrom.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/09/feminism-conquers-the-liberal-party/#comment-102789</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 03:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yobbo: the LDP likes the idea of business but hates the reality of it, a bit like the relationship of Trotskyites and Maoists to working people&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Just so you know, Andrew, I&#039;m stealing that line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yobbo: the LDP likes the idea of business but hates the reality of it, a bit like the relationship of Trotskyites and Maoists to working people</p></blockquote>
<p>Just so you know, Andrew, I&#8217;m stealing that line.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/09/feminism-conquers-the-liberal-party/#comment-102788</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 02:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have to agree on both counts, DI. The road back to office for the Liberals lies over both their dead bodies, never mind Rudd&#039;s and Gillard&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have to agree on both counts, DI. The road back to office for the Liberals lies over both their dead bodies, never mind Rudd&#8217;s and Gillard&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: David Irving (no relation)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/09/feminism-conquers-the-liberal-party/#comment-102787</link>
		<dc:creator>David Irving (no relation)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With luck, Andrew E @ 81, the next Lib PM won&#039;t have to deal with Abbott because he&#039;ll be dead (or at least retired) by then. OTOH, I think the next Liberal PM will have to drive a stake through Minchin&#039;s heart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With luck, Andrew E @ 81, the next Lib PM won&#8217;t have to deal with Abbott because he&#8217;ll be dead (or at least retired) by then. OTOH, I think the next Liberal PM will have to drive a stake through Minchin&#8217;s heart.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/09/feminism-conquers-the-liberal-party/#comment-102786</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katz@26:

The idea of this policy is to secure votes before an election. After a Coalition election win, the new government will be under pressure to cut expenditure - and an unfunded $3b program which hasn&#039;t been implemented would be first on the chopping block.

As &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewelder.blogspot.com/2010/03/near-fossil-creek-tony-abbott-has-set.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;ve said elsewhere&lt;/a&gt;, this is the moment from which to trace the decline of Abbott. This proposal is so outlandish, so badly thought out and so out of kilter with other policies (particularly economic ones) that it simply has no credibility.

Think of it as the equivalent of Medicare Gold - some people thought that sounded good at the time but it had no credibility, nobody changed their vote over it and nobody missed it when it was quietly buried.

It is also consistent with the badly thought out brain-farts that Abbott has exhibited throughout his career. During the Howard government, Abbott would come out with &quot;ideas&quot; that directly contradicted the actions of ministers (Amanda Vanstone was a particular target); because he was Howard&#039;s pet they just had to suck it up. Both Nelson and Turnbull as leaders faced this too, having to declare through gritted teeth that &quot;Mr Abbott is entitled to his opinion&quot;. The next Liberal Prime Minister is going to have to tell Tony Abbott to fuck off.

When you talk about &quot;deep divisions&quot;, remember that the Libs are on their third leader since the last election. Abbott could propose to invade New Zealand and they&#039;d have to keep stumm. You can expect a flurry of denials afterwards, lots of named and unnamed &quot;senior Coalition sources&quot; saying &quot;I tried to tell Tony it was a bad idea but he wouldn&#039;t listen ...&quot;. I strongly doubt any such dissent will be in evidence beforehand.

Yobbo: the LDP likes the idea of business but hates the reality of it, a bit like the relationship of Trotskyites and Maoists to working people. Maybe they&#039;ll get one Senate seat, maybe they won&#039;t - the point is that they&#039;ll be like the dog chasing the car, lots of noise and focus won&#039;t translate into operational competence. Using Fielding as a model for anything is unutterably sad, notwithstanding the idea that a fully equipped Senator costs at least a million taxpayer dollars each year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katz@26:</p>
<p>The idea of this policy is to secure votes before an election. After a Coalition election win, the new government will be under pressure to cut expenditure &#8211; and an unfunded $3b program which hasn&#8217;t been implemented would be first on the chopping block.</p>
<p>As <a href="http://andrewelder.blogspot.com/2010/03/near-fossil-creek-tony-abbott-has-set.html" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;ve said elsewhere</a>, this is the moment from which to trace the decline of Abbott. This proposal is so outlandish, so badly thought out and so out of kilter with other policies (particularly economic ones) that it simply has no credibility.</p>
<p>Think of it as the equivalent of Medicare Gold &#8211; some people thought that sounded good at the time but it had no credibility, nobody changed their vote over it and nobody missed it when it was quietly buried.</p>
<p>It is also consistent with the badly thought out brain-farts that Abbott has exhibited throughout his career. During the Howard government, Abbott would come out with &#8220;ideas&#8221; that directly contradicted the actions of ministers (Amanda Vanstone was a particular target); because he was Howard&#8217;s pet they just had to suck it up. Both Nelson and Turnbull as leaders faced this too, having to declare through gritted teeth that &#8220;Mr Abbott is entitled to his opinion&#8221;. The next Liberal Prime Minister is going to have to tell Tony Abbott to fuck off.</p>
<p>When you talk about &#8220;deep divisions&#8221;, remember that the Libs are on their third leader since the last election. Abbott could propose to invade New Zealand and they&#8217;d have to keep stumm. You can expect a flurry of denials afterwards, lots of named and unnamed &#8220;senior Coalition sources&#8221; saying &#8220;I tried to tell Tony it was a bad idea but he wouldn&#8217;t listen &#8230;&#8221;. I strongly doubt any such dissent will be in evidence beforehand.</p>
<p>Yobbo: the LDP likes the idea of business but hates the reality of it, a bit like the relationship of Trotskyites and Maoists to working people. Maybe they&#8217;ll get one Senate seat, maybe they won&#8217;t &#8211; the point is that they&#8217;ll be like the dog chasing the car, lots of noise and focus won&#8217;t translate into operational competence. Using Fielding as a model for anything is unutterably sad, notwithstanding the idea that a fully equipped Senator costs at least a million taxpayer dollars each year.</p>
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		<title>By: David Irving (no relation)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/09/feminism-conquers-the-liberal-party/#comment-102785</link>
		<dc:creator>David Irving (no relation)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but it&#039;s aved a lot of trees, Paul @ 79.

I hate to think how many hactares of forest I&#039;ve despoiled by fucking up the Senate &lt;strike&gt;Bedsheet&lt;/strike&gt;Ballot when I try to fill in every square ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but it&#8217;s aved a lot of trees, Paul @ 79.</p>
<p>I hate to think how many hactares of forest I&#8217;ve despoiled by fucking up the Senate <strike>Bedsheet</strike>Ballot when I try to fill in every square &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/09/feminism-conquers-the-liberal-party/#comment-102784</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s one of the baleful consequences of the above-the-line option for Senate voting introduced by the Hawke Government in 1984 and misused by the Labor Party at that year&#039;s election and several times since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s one of the baleful consequences of the above-the-line option for Senate voting introduced by the Hawke Government in 1984 and misused by the Labor Party at that year&#8217;s election and several times since.</p>
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		<title>By: Yobbo</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/09/feminism-conquers-the-liberal-party/#comment-102783</link>
		<dc:creator>Yobbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s really not that rare Sam. All you need to be elected to the Senate is 2% of the vote and some good preference deals. Nick Xenophon was elected to SA upper house with 2.9% also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s really not that rare Sam. All you need to be elected to the Senate is 2% of the vote and some good preference deals. Nick Xenophon was elected to SA upper house with 2.9% also.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/09/feminism-conquers-the-liberal-party/#comment-102782</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Newsflash: dorky man dressed as beer bottle seen in vicinity of Tuntable Falls, NSW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newsflash: dorky man dressed as beer bottle seen in vicinity of Tuntable Falls, NSW.</p>
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