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		<title>By: Pinguthepenguin</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/coalition-shows-it-doesnt-care-about-equal-pay-for-women/#comment-103178</link>
		<dc:creator>Pinguthepenguin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What point was that? I missed it amongst the trolling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What point was that? I missed it amongst the trolling.</p>
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		<title>By: David Irving (no relation)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/coalition-shows-it-doesnt-care-about-equal-pay-for-women/#comment-103177</link>
		<dc:creator>David Irving (no relation)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Point well missed, desipis, by a country mile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Point well missed, desipis, by a country mile.</p>
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		<title>By: desipis</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/coalition-shows-it-doesnt-care-about-equal-pay-for-women/#comment-103176</link>
		<dc:creator>desipis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;my Latin isn’t up to understanding the significance of your nom de plume&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Like most internet nicknames, its the echo of a crazy idea from a time long ago, with a twist of bad translation, that stubbornly decided to stick.

&lt;blockquote&gt;...too busy getting a technical education and performing at a far higher standard than the languid possessors of penises.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do you want a gold star sticker or a smiley face stamp?

&lt;blockquote&gt;Over the past 40 years, men [I use the term advisedly] have been relieved of the need to marry in order to get regular sex.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Interestingly enough, so have women.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Women are starting to rear children without the security or financial input of the sperm donor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good for them.

&lt;blockquote&gt;You could argue that as women have the more onerous social responsibility that they should be paid more than men.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Or you could argue that we should move towards equality and get men more involved with raising children, by embracing shared parenting and countering the perception that men are bad at it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;I can see the day when the second tier fellows won’t pass on their genes as women will select their sperm donor in the same way cattle breeders select the donor sperm for their herds.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And men will find a high end egg donor and a surrogate womb to have their children.

&lt;blockquote&gt;As 40% of Australian marriages end in divorce it makes sense to select a sperm donor with the most desirable attributes rather than pairing up with a second rate fella who buggers off after 7 years leaving mum to rear the kids.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

With women like you who see men as nothing more than their own personal wage slave I&#039;m not surprised that so many end so badly.

Exactly what your &quot;bbb-but women have kids!&quot; non-argument or your misandrous comments have to do with an equal pay for equal work discussion I&#039;m not sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>my Latin isn’t up to understanding the significance of your nom de plume</p></blockquote>
<p>Like most internet nicknames, its the echo of a crazy idea from a time long ago, with a twist of bad translation, that stubbornly decided to stick.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;too busy getting a technical education and performing at a far higher standard than the languid possessors of penises.</p></blockquote>
<p>Do you want a gold star sticker or a smiley face stamp?</p>
<blockquote><p>Over the past 40 years, men [I use the term advisedly] have been relieved of the need to marry in order to get regular sex.</p></blockquote>
<p>Interestingly enough, so have women.</p>
<blockquote><p>Women are starting to rear children without the security or financial input of the sperm donor.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good for them.</p>
<blockquote><p>You could argue that as women have the more onerous social responsibility that they should be paid more than men.</p></blockquote>
<p>Or you could argue that we should move towards equality and get men more involved with raising children, by embracing shared parenting and countering the perception that men are bad at it.</p>
<blockquote><p>I can see the day when the second tier fellows won’t pass on their genes as women will select their sperm donor in the same way cattle breeders select the donor sperm for their herds.</p></blockquote>
<p>And men will find a high end egg donor and a surrogate womb to have their children.</p>
<blockquote><p>As 40% of Australian marriages end in divorce it makes sense to select a sperm donor with the most desirable attributes rather than pairing up with a second rate fella who buggers off after 7 years leaving mum to rear the kids.</p></blockquote>
<p>With women like you who see men as nothing more than their own personal wage slave I&#8217;m not surprised that so many end so badly.</p>
<p>Exactly what your &#8220;bbb-but women have kids!&#8221; non-argument or your misandrous comments have to do with an equal pay for equal work discussion I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
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		<title>By: billie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/coalition-shows-it-doesnt-care-about-equal-pay-for-women/#comment-103175</link>
		<dc:creator>billie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 11:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>desipis - my Latin isn&#039;t up to understanding the significance of your nom de plume - too busy getting a technical education and performing at a far higher standard than the languid possessors of penises.
Over the past 40 years, men [I use the term advisedly] have been relieved of the need to marry in order to get regular sex.  Women are starting to rear children without the security or financial input of the sperm donor.  You could argue that as women have the more onerous social responsibility that they should be paid more than men.  I can see the day when the second tier fellows won&#039;t pass on their genes as women will select their sperm donor in the same way cattle breeders select the donor sperm for their herds.  As 40% of Australian marriages end in divorce it makes sense to select a sperm donor with the most desirable attributes rather than pairing up with a second rate fella who buggers off after 7 years leaving mum to rear the kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>desipis &#8211; my Latin isn&#8217;t up to understanding the significance of your nom de plume &#8211; too busy getting a technical education and performing at a far higher standard than the languid possessors of penises.<br />
Over the past 40 years, men [I use the term advisedly] have been relieved of the need to marry in order to get regular sex.  Women are starting to rear children without the security or financial input of the sperm donor.  You could argue that as women have the more onerous social responsibility that they should be paid more than men.  I can see the day when the second tier fellows won&#8217;t pass on their genes as women will select their sperm donor in the same way cattle breeders select the donor sperm for their herds.  As 40% of Australian marriages end in divorce it makes sense to select a sperm donor with the most desirable attributes rather than pairing up with a second rate fella who buggers off after 7 years leaving mum to rear the kids.</p>
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		<title>By: Angharad</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/coalition-shows-it-doesnt-care-about-equal-pay-for-women/#comment-103174</link>
		<dc:creator>Angharad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 10:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desipis @65

You assume sills in the sector are transferable to other sectors.  Your average child care worker or mental health caseworker doesn&#039;t have a whole lot of other options.

In my case, I&#039;m in a management role so the fair work case won&#039;t affect my salary.  I&#039;ve made a few attempts to change sectors, but on the whole, management experience in a charity is not rated very highly by those parts of the economy that pay better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Desipis @65</p>
<p>You assume sills in the sector are transferable to other sectors.  Your average child care worker or mental health caseworker doesn&#8217;t have a whole lot of other options.</p>
<p>In my case, I&#8217;m in a management role so the fair work case won&#8217;t affect my salary.  I&#8217;ve made a few attempts to change sectors, but on the whole, management experience in a charity is not rated very highly by those parts of the economy that pay better.</p>
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		<title>By: Drscroogemcduck</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/coalition-shows-it-doesnt-care-about-equal-pay-for-women/#comment-103173</link>
		<dc:creator>Drscroogemcduck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it is surprising that a programmer might get paid more than a superior. You wouldn&#039;t be surprised if a top surgeon was being paid more than his manager. The variance in programmer productivity is massive and this can cause some weird remuneration situations. Though funny seeing people complain about people lower in the org hierarchy getting paid more on a lefty site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it is surprising that a programmer might get paid more than a superior. You wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if a top surgeon was being paid more than his manager. The variance in programmer productivity is massive and this can cause some weird remuneration situations. Though funny seeing people complain about people lower in the org hierarchy getting paid more on a lefty site.</p>
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		<title>By: desipis</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/coalition-shows-it-doesnt-care-about-equal-pay-for-women/#comment-103172</link>
		<dc:creator>desipis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angharad@59,

Why do you work in that sector if there are better paying jobs elsewhere to be had?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angharad@59,</p>
<p>Why do you work in that sector if there are better paying jobs elsewhere to be had?</p>
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		<title>By: desipis</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/coalition-shows-it-doesnt-care-about-equal-pay-for-women/#comment-103171</link>
		<dc:creator>desipis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Labor surveys report that the difference between men and women’s pay has grown larger in Australia in the past 2 decades, even though there are more women in post secondary study than men. 58% of university students are women.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

A great example of a failure of progressive politics. They pick some simple but arbitrary measure of inequality attempting to apply a quick fix by contorting society to produce the arbitrary outcome they&#039;re chasing. Then when the results aren&#039;t what they expect (practical equality) because they didn&#039;t look for the root cause of the problem, they turn around and blame some sexist conspiracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Labor surveys report that the difference between men and women’s pay has grown larger in Australia in the past 2 decades, even though there are more women in post secondary study than men. 58% of university students are women.</p></blockquote>
<p>A great example of a failure of progressive politics. They pick some simple but arbitrary measure of inequality attempting to apply a quick fix by contorting society to produce the arbitrary outcome they&#8217;re chasing. Then when the results aren&#8217;t what they expect (practical equality) because they didn&#8217;t look for the root cause of the problem, they turn around and blame some sexist conspiracy.</p>
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		<title>By: billie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/coalition-shows-it-doesnt-care-about-equal-pay-for-women/#comment-103170</link>
		<dc:creator>billie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pingutthepenguin I apologise for including at least one company that has published pay bands.  I stand by my comments based on review of CVs.

Labor surveys report that the difference between men and women&#039;s pay has grown larger in Australia in the past 2 decades, even though there are more women in post secondary study than men.  58% of university students are women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pingutthepenguin I apologise for including at least one company that has published pay bands.  I stand by my comments based on review of CVs.</p>
<p>Labor surveys report that the difference between men and women&#8217;s pay has grown larger in Australia in the past 2 decades, even though there are more women in post secondary study than men.  58% of university students are women.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/coalition-shows-it-doesnt-care-about-equal-pay-for-women/#comment-103169</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 23:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marks, this is what Leslie Cannold has been pointing out. (Me as well, I might add ;-) ) This is where the rubber will hit the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marks, this is what Leslie Cannold has been pointing out. (Me as well, I might add <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) This is where the rubber will hit the road.</p>
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