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	<title>Comments on: Reaction to Abbott&#039;s parental leave plan</title>
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		<title>By: David Irving (no relation)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/reaction-to-abbotts-parental-leave-plan/#comment-103094</link>
		<dc:creator>David Irving (no relation)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 02:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul @ 54, that ABC piece was a hoot!

Bishop clearly hasn&#039;t yet realised there has been a fairly recent change of govt, and, for the first time ever, Barnaby Joist has declined to talk about something when he&#039;s not across the detail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul @ 54, that ABC piece was a hoot!</p>
<p>Bishop clearly hasn&#8217;t yet realised there has been a fairly recent change of govt, and, for the first time ever, Barnaby Joist has declined to talk about something when he&#8217;s not across the detail.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/reaction-to-abbotts-parental-leave-plan/#comment-103093</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patricia WA, did you notice the comment Mark made in reply to John Passant@44 about the Labor scheme?

&lt;blockquote&gt;a range of other payments and transfers effectively extend the period of paid leave to six months.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia WA, did you notice the comment Mark made in reply to John Passant@44 about the Labor scheme?</p>
<blockquote><p>a range of other payments and transfers effectively extend the period of paid leave to six months.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/reaction-to-abbotts-parental-leave-plan/#comment-103092</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patricia @ 56 - I think most in the government would like extending the parental leave to six months. What they won&#039;t like is being seen as being forced to do that because of Abbott. So I would not be surprised at all if they oppose the extension giving cost as a reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricia @ 56 &#8211; I think most in the government would like extending the parental leave to six months. What they won&#8217;t like is being seen as being forced to do that because of Abbott. So I would not be surprised at all if they oppose the extension giving cost as a reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia WA</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/reaction-to-abbotts-parental-leave-plan/#comment-103091</link>
		<dc:creator>Patricia WA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Acceding to the various proposed amendments, however, delivers the initiative to parties and interests whose genuine commitment to parental support is questionable to say the least.&quot;

Katz, do you think Labor would really be heartbroken if they had to extend it to six months? We always see these things through our own rosy or blue tinged specs of course, but I thought yesterday&#039;s unusual parade of Labor heavies condemning Abbot was just theatre and with Bob Brown coming in to give Tony a bit of moral support it seemed so farcical that one feels it had to be a set up.   Tony is well and truly wedged into passing the legislation and possibly even supporting the Greens with their preferred six months amendment.

Watching how strong Julia G and the government are on the community services sector wage claim I can&#039;t imagine them really not wanting the full six months.  Three looked modest and responsible, of course, but it was under criticism from the left generally for not being enough. Tony has stepped in and really been helpful to the cause, and of course copped a lot of flak for inconsistency and high handedness, to say nothing of p.ing off the business sector.

If six months gets through I can see smiles and high fives all round the cabinet table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Acceding to the various proposed amendments, however, delivers the initiative to parties and interests whose genuine commitment to parental support is questionable to say the least.&#8221;</p>
<p>Katz, do you think Labor would really be heartbroken if they had to extend it to six months? We always see these things through our own rosy or blue tinged specs of course, but I thought yesterday&#8217;s unusual parade of Labor heavies condemning Abbot was just theatre and with Bob Brown coming in to give Tony a bit of moral support it seemed so farcical that one feels it had to be a set up.   Tony is well and truly wedged into passing the legislation and possibly even supporting the Greens with their preferred six months amendment.</p>
<p>Watching how strong Julia G and the government are on the community services sector wage claim I can&#8217;t imagine them really not wanting the full six months.  Three looked modest and responsible, of course, but it was under criticism from the left generally for not being enough. Tony has stepped in and really been helpful to the cause, and of course copped a lot of flak for inconsistency and high handedness, to say nothing of p.ing off the business sector.</p>
<p>If six months gets through I can see smiles and high fives all round the cabinet table.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/reaction-to-abbotts-parental-leave-plan/#comment-103090</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I would say to Julie Bishop is, that Mr. Rudd is very, very polite, under the circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I would say to Julie Bishop is, that Mr. Rudd is very, very polite, under the circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/reaction-to-abbotts-parental-leave-plan/#comment-103089</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And here&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/03/11/2842808.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the latest &lt;/a&gt;from the &lt;del datetime=&quot;2010-03-11T01:20:52+00:00&quot;&gt;Purple Priest &lt;/del&gt;Mad Monk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And here&#8217;s <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/03/11/2842808.htm" rel="nofollow">the latest </a>from the <del datetime="2010-03-11T01:20:52+00:00">Purple Priest </del>Mad Monk</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/reaction-to-abbotts-parental-leave-plan/#comment-103088</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schubert makes the mistake of allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good.

Rudd has plainly wedged the Coalition into supporting policy that is anathema to a large segment of the conservative side of politics.

If Rudd refuses to compromise this wedging remains alive until the double dissolution and the possible joint session.

Barring a miracle, Labor will win a double dissolution election handsomely. With or without a joint sitting the original legislation will pass.

After the administrative mechanism is put in place it will be relatively simple to tinker with the parameters of entitlement and liability, etc.

Under those circumstances, parental support will become a permanent feature of Australia&#039;s political economy, just like Whitlam&#039;s Medibank/Medicare.

Acceding to the various proposed amendments, however, delivers the initiative to parties and interests whose genuine commitment to parental support is questionable to say the least.

Schubert should learn patience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schubert makes the mistake of allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good.</p>
<p>Rudd has plainly wedged the Coalition into supporting policy that is anathema to a large segment of the conservative side of politics.</p>
<p>If Rudd refuses to compromise this wedging remains alive until the double dissolution and the possible joint session.</p>
<p>Barring a miracle, Labor will win a double dissolution election handsomely. With or without a joint sitting the original legislation will pass.</p>
<p>After the administrative mechanism is put in place it will be relatively simple to tinker with the parameters of entitlement and liability, etc.</p>
<p>Under those circumstances, parental support will become a permanent feature of Australia&#8217;s political economy, just like Whitlam&#8217;s Medibank/Medicare.</p>
<p>Acceding to the various proposed amendments, however, delivers the initiative to parties and interests whose genuine commitment to parental support is questionable to say the least.</p>
<p>Schubert should learn patience.</p>
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		<title>By: Fran Barlow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fran Barlow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. It seems to me that amending the scheme as the Greens plus Xenophon and Fielding suggest would be a reasonable thing to do, so in that sense Mischa has a point.

That said, there&#039;s a lot more to ensuring that having a child and keeping your work options open than doing this. As was noted on Radio Natioanl this morining, Germany has a more generous scheme than proposed in Australia by far but there is little evidence that it is raising female participation in the workplace.

Quality childcare nearby, a comprehensive reintegration package at similar responsibility, flexibility etc are also issues that need to be addressed. It would be no bad thing if companies that could demonstrate something like best practice in workplace inclusion would get preference (all else being close to equal) in state-originating tenders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. It seems to me that amending the scheme as the Greens plus Xenophon and Fielding suggest would be a reasonable thing to do, so in that sense Mischa has a point.</p>
<p>That said, there&#8217;s a lot more to ensuring that having a child and keeping your work options open than doing this. As was noted on Radio Natioanl this morining, Germany has a more generous scheme than proposed in Australia by far but there is little evidence that it is raising female participation in the workplace.</p>
<p>Quality childcare nearby, a comprehensive reintegration package at similar responsibility, flexibility etc are also issues that need to be addressed. It would be no bad thing if companies that could demonstrate something like best practice in workplace inclusion would get preference (all else being close to equal) in state-originating tenders.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/03/10/reaction-to-abbotts-parental-leave-plan/#comment-103086</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/senate-obstruction-on-baby-leave-hype-and-poppycock-20100310-pz99.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&#039;s Mischa Schubert &lt;/a&gt;in the Age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/politics/senate-obstruction-on-baby-leave-hype-and-poppycock-20100310-pz99.html" rel="nofollow">Here&#8217;s Mischa Schubert </a>in the Age.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About a week or so ago (I can&#039;t find the piece so can&#039;t link to it) the bookies were tipping late August for some reason. Sooner he does it the better I reckon. My anger at the Libs, thar fool Fielding, and the ego-tripping  Xenophon is growing stronger by the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a week or so ago (I can&#8217;t find the piece so can&#8217;t link to it) the bookies were tipping late August for some reason. Sooner he does it the better I reckon. My anger at the Libs, thar fool Fielding, and the ego-tripping  Xenophon is growing stronger by the day.</p>
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