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	<title>Comments on: May Day, Paul Lucas, Australian Labor and class politics</title>
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		<title>By: Moz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/05/03/may-day-paul-lucas-australian-labor-and-class-politics/#comment-13193</link>
		<dc:creator>Moz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 10:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DavidG@20: I&#039;m a white colonial middle-class anarchist. Thanks for asking.

(credit to Shona Laing for the concept)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DavidG@20: I&#8217;m a white colonial middle-class anarchist. Thanks for asking.</p>
<p>(credit to Shona Laing for the concept)</p>
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		<title>By: Moz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/05/03/may-day-paul-lucas-australian-labor-and-class-politics/#comment-56861</link>
		<dc:creator>Moz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 10:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DavidG@20: I&#039;m a white colonial middle-class anarchist. Thanks for asking.

(credit to Shona Laing for the concept)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DavidG@20: I&#8217;m a white colonial middle-class anarchist. Thanks for asking.</p>
<p>(credit to Shona Laing for the concept)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/05/03/may-day-paul-lucas-australian-labor-and-class-politics/#comment-13192</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 09:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@21 - Nickws, yep, those revisionists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@21 &#8211; Nickws, yep, those revisionists.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 09:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@21 - Nickws, yep, those revisionists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@21 &#8211; Nickws, yep, those revisionists.</p>
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		<title>By: Spana</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/05/03/may-day-paul-lucas-australian-labor-and-class-politics/#comment-13191</link>
		<dc:creator>Spana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 09:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems there may be some splits in the ALP ranks judging by the news today. A few MPs urging a rethink on privatisation. Perhaps there are a few nervous ALP MPs who fear what is looking like a real threat and that is an ALP defeat. Perhaps there will be some more rumblings about Bligh and a move on her leadership. Who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems there may be some splits in the ALP ranks judging by the news today. A few MPs urging a rethink on privatisation. Perhaps there are a few nervous ALP MPs who fear what is looking like a real threat and that is an ALP defeat. Perhaps there will be some more rumblings about Bligh and a move on her leadership. Who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Spana</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/05/03/may-day-paul-lucas-australian-labor-and-class-politics/#comment-56859</link>
		<dc:creator>Spana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 09:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems there may be some splits in the ALP ranks judging by the news today. A few MPs urging a rethink on privatisation. Perhaps there are a few nervous ALP MPs who fear what is looking like a real threat and that is an ALP defeat. Perhaps there will be some more rumblings about Bligh and a move on her leadership. Who knows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems there may be some splits in the ALP ranks judging by the news today. A few MPs urging a rethink on privatisation. Perhaps there are a few nervous ALP MPs who fear what is looking like a real threat and that is an ALP defeat. Perhaps there will be some more rumblings about Bligh and a move on her leadership. Who knows.</p>
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		<title>By: Nickws</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/05/03/may-day-paul-lucas-australian-labor-and-class-politics/#comment-13190</link>
		<dc:creator>Nickws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 08:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I really hope this is the beginning of the unions breaking with the ALP and seeing them for what they are. Careerists who go from young labor to staffer to MP to sell out MP.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For all you middle class radicals who don&#039;t know your(?) social history, Spana&#039;s rhetoric is a variation on traditional Labor Movement discontent. I&#039;m not passing judgment.
Though personally I would like to keep a major progressive electoral force in this country for the 21st century that wasn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;to the Right of the US Democrats party organisation&lt;/em&gt;. I always thought the late John Button was woefully wrongheaded in sugesting the ALP should disaffiliate from the union movement, as he really was earnest in that belief and not just letting off steam.

I can&#039;t fathom why anyone who says they want the best for either party or union movement would be serious about that.

Anyway, where is our high profile Labour Day march in Victoria? It&#039;s just another Carlton arts and craft fair down here.

Interesting that Labour Day in Victoria was originally held in May for purely organic, local reasons---the first eight-hour day ruling was passed during that month by the colonial government. I see your Queensland Labour Day was originally in March, then was moved to May 1st to conform with the Yurpean&#039;s event (ironically our Labour Day was moved in the other direction, from May to March.)

&lt;blockquote&gt;It was really the revisionists in the German SDP who believed that a majority of the population being working class (in the sense of being on one side of relations of production) would necessarily translate into anything in the political and social realms.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mark, these revisionists you mention are the 1860s ones, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I really hope this is the beginning of the unions breaking with the ALP and seeing them for what they are. Careerists who go from young labor to staffer to MP to sell out MP.</p></blockquote>
<p>For all you middle class radicals who don&#8217;t know your(?) social history, Spana&#8217;s rhetoric is a variation on traditional Labor Movement discontent. I&#8217;m not passing judgment.<br />
Though personally I would like to keep a major progressive electoral force in this country for the 21st century that wasn&#8217;t <em>to the Right of the US Democrats party organisation</em>. I always thought the late John Button was woefully wrongheaded in sugesting the ALP should disaffiliate from the union movement, as he really was earnest in that belief and not just letting off steam.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t fathom why anyone who says they want the best for either party or union movement would be serious about that.</p>
<p>Anyway, where is our high profile Labour Day march in Victoria? It&#8217;s just another Carlton arts and craft fair down here.</p>
<p>Interesting that Labour Day in Victoria was originally held in May for purely organic, local reasons&#8212;the first eight-hour day ruling was passed during that month by the colonial government. I see your Queensland Labour Day was originally in March, then was moved to May 1st to conform with the Yurpean&#8217;s event (ironically our Labour Day was moved in the other direction, from May to March.)</p>
<blockquote><p>It was really the revisionists in the German SDP who believed that a majority of the population being working class (in the sense of being on one side of relations of production) would necessarily translate into anything in the political and social realms.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mark, these revisionists you mention are the 1860s ones, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Nickws</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/05/03/may-day-paul-lucas-australian-labor-and-class-politics/#comment-56858</link>
		<dc:creator>Nickws</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 08:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I really hope this is the beginning of the unions breaking with the ALP and seeing them for what they are. Careerists who go from young labor to staffer to MP to sell out MP.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

For all you middle class radicals who don&#039;t know your(?) social history, Spana&#039;s rhetoric is a variation on traditional Labor Movement discontent. I&#039;m not passing judgment.
Though personally I would like to keep a major progressive electoral force in this country for the 21st century that wasn&#039;t &lt;em&gt;to the Right of the US Democrats party organisation&lt;/em&gt;. I always thought the late John Button was woefully wrongheaded in sugesting the ALP should disaffiliate from the union movement, as he really was earnest in that belief and not just letting off steam.

I can&#039;t fathom why anyone who says they want the best for either party or union movement would be serious about that.

Anyway, where is our high profile Labour Day march in Victoria? It&#039;s just another Carlton arts and craft fair down here.

Interesting that Labour Day in Victoria was originally held in May for purely organic, local reasons---the first eight-hour day ruling was passed during that month by the colonial government. I see your Queensland Labour Day was originally in March, then was moved to May 1st to conform with the Yurpean&#039;s event (ironically our Labour Day was moved in the other direction, from May to March.)

&lt;blockquote&gt;It was really the revisionists in the German SDP who believed that a majority of the population being working class (in the sense of being on one side of relations of production) would necessarily translate into anything in the political and social realms.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Mark, these revisionists you mention are the 1860s ones, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I really hope this is the beginning of the unions breaking with the ALP and seeing them for what they are. Careerists who go from young labor to staffer to MP to sell out MP.</p></blockquote>
<p>For all you middle class radicals who don&#8217;t know your(?) social history, Spana&#8217;s rhetoric is a variation on traditional Labor Movement discontent. I&#8217;m not passing judgment.<br />
Though personally I would like to keep a major progressive electoral force in this country for the 21st century that wasn&#8217;t <em>to the Right of the US Democrats party organisation</em>. I always thought the late John Button was woefully wrongheaded in sugesting the ALP should disaffiliate from the union movement, as he really was earnest in that belief and not just letting off steam.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t fathom why anyone who says they want the best for either party or union movement would be serious about that.</p>
<p>Anyway, where is our high profile Labour Day march in Victoria? It&#8217;s just another Carlton arts and craft fair down here.</p>
<p>Interesting that Labour Day in Victoria was originally held in May for purely organic, local reasons&#8212;the first eight-hour day ruling was passed during that month by the colonial government. I see your Queensland Labour Day was originally in March, then was moved to May 1st to conform with the Yurpean&#8217;s event (ironically our Labour Day was moved in the other direction, from May to March.)</p>
<blockquote><p>It was really the revisionists in the German SDP who believed that a majority of the population being working class (in the sense of being on one side of relations of production) would necessarily translate into anything in the political and social realms.</p></blockquote>
<p>Mark, these revisionists you mention are the 1860s ones, right?</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/05/03/may-day-paul-lucas-australian-labor-and-class-politics/#comment-13189</link>
		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 07:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony, we are not anarchists now. We are merely programmed producers and consumers who enable the rich to get richer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, we are not anarchists now. We are merely programmed producers and consumers who enable the rich to get richer!</p>
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		<title>By: David G</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2010/05/03/may-day-paul-lucas-australian-labor-and-class-politics/#comment-56857</link>
		<dc:creator>David G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 07:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anthony, we are not anarchists now. We are merely programmed producers and consumers who enable the rich to get richer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anthony, we are not anarchists now. We are merely programmed producers and consumers who enable the rich to get richer!</p>
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