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10 responses to “ASIO gets wider remit, to furious debate…only kidding”

  1. Paul Burns

    Does this mean we can spy on the United States? :)

  2. Zorronsky

    It’s the globalisation of intelligence agencies that I’ve observed for many years that concerns me.
    Seems to be an international club that is exclusive of national executive control.
    Abu Ghraib comes to mind as an example of how these organisations can unite against the explicit policies of the nations they represent.

  3. akn

    I guess it is an attempt to legitimize existing practices. Heaven knows the spooks already are a law unto themselves.

  4. dave

    I surprised that Tony Abbott hasn’t called for greater scrutiny of this particular bill, holding the government to account and all that.

    At least we can still read the laws that give the spies new power.

  5. quokka

    Talking about “intelligence” services, remember this gem?

    http://everything2.com/title/ASIS+Raid+in+Sheraton+Hotel+Melbourne

  6. Occam's Blunt Razor

    What about ASIS? Do they miss out on the fun?

  7. Doug

    Just when you get used to Tony saying No to everything he goes and confuses you by agreeing with the Government.

  8. akn

    quokka: there was, about the same time, also an ASIS raid on an oil rig in Bass Strait; it was an exercise in securing vital resources old chap and scared the oil rig workers witless at the time. Someone forgot to phone ahead. Or maybe they didn’t give a shit anyway. Giving these clowns more power will certainly be amusing to watch.

  9. Glenn Condell

    ‘One possibility is this section is to deal with China’s rather blatant, often relatively unsophisticated, but still effective attempts at economic espionage.’

    Perhaps, but what exactly would result from such a discovery? Front page outrage and the Ambassador summoned to the Lodge for a close-up view of the coals? Or a quiet chat with said Ambassador in order to plead with them to stop, or we’ll, we’ll… something.

    Even more intriguing, what if the economic terrorists turned out to be Mossad or CIA? Do we put our foot down then, and what is to stop them from laughing at us?

    Just hypotheticals of course. They wouldn’t do that to ‘low-hanging fruit’ like us, would they?

  10. Christina Carabini

    Similarly the concept of a foreign power has been redefined currently it applies to a foreign government an entity that is directed or controlled by a foreign government or governments or a foreign political organisation . Under the bill it will become people organisations and governments outside Australia ..That s pretty damn broad..Bascially anyone who organises in groups to campaign about political and social issues such as antiwar activists environmental activists refugee advocates anti-censorship activists anyone who communicates with others overseas to campaign against Australian government policy will be able to be targeted by ASIO under these new laws. .Crikey suggests that groups without a specific political agenda such as Wikileaks and online lulz masters Anonymous may also be targets.

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