Tim Dunlop’s regular readers at Road to Surfdom might have noticed that he’s been having some server problems lately. Tim accepted an offer from leading right wing blogger Tim Blair to have a brief sojourn at his place. Tim’s now back at his own joint, though his archives haven’t yet been recovered and the site design has changed. It’ll be interesting to read Tim’s reflections on his time among the death beasts, which will be forthcoming soon. One thing I noticed was that few of Tim’s regular commenters made the journey with him, and the comments threads on his posts were largely inhabited by small b blairites. Never the twain shall meet?
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As much as I admire and like Tim Dunlop, having to visit him at THAT site is too much of an ask.
I look forward to RTS when it’s operating again.
As much as I admire and like Tim Dunlop, having to visit him at THAT site is too much of an ask.
I look forward to RTS when it’s operating again.
Ron, RTS is up and running now with a few posts.
Ron, RTS is up and running now with a few posts.
I didn’t even know he was at TB’s site until I read it on Surfdom today. Did I miss the announcement? I don’t think I made of stern enough stuff to start commenting there though.
I didn’t even know he was at TB’s site until I read it on Surfdom today. Did I miss the announcement? I don’t think I made of stern enough stuff to start commenting there though.
I think it was mentioned on a comments thread here, Amanda, but I can’t remember which one.
I think it was mentioned on a comments thread here, Amanda, but I can’t remember which one.
Unloyal bitch that I am, I must confess to skimming over *a couple* of your eight thousands threads. That’ll learn me good.
Unloyal bitch that I am, I must confess to skimming over *a couple* of your eight thousands threads. That’ll learn me good.
It’s here, Amanda, if you want to catch up on your required reading.
It’s here, Amanda, if you want to catch up on your required reading.
I was curious as to how Andrea would apply her eviction policy to Tim D’s posts. It was a shame that things didn’t get nasty enough to find out.
I was curious as to how Andrea would apply her eviction policy to Tim D’s posts. It was a shame that things didn’t get nasty enough to find out.
It seems that Blair’s readers have become accustomed to coating anyone named “Tim” with feverish and drooling adulation.
As a result, Tim D seemed to have quite a good time of it while at Blair’s place. All in all it was quite surprising that the knives were not stuck in at every opportunity. Perhaps Tim D has rescued some bat-winged monkeys from the dark side.
It seems that Blair’s readers have become accustomed to coating anyone named “Tim” with feverish and drooling adulation.
As a result, Tim D seemed to have quite a good time of it while at Blair’s place. All in all it was quite surprising that the knives were not stuck in at every opportunity. Perhaps Tim D has rescued some bat-winged monkeys from the dark side.
Or perhaps your stereotyping of tim’s commenters is not reality-based.
Or perhaps your stereotyping of tim’s commenters is not reality-based.
Amanda comments above: “I didn?Äôt even know he was at TB?Äôs site until I read it on Surfdom today. Did I miss the announcement?”
For some reason — hate, fear, envy, whatever — Tim Dunlop’s fellow Aussie lefty bloggers failed to promote his brief period of posting at Tim Blair’s.
See http://rwdb.blogspot.com/2005/04/unheralded-return-of-lefty-blogger-tim.html
Amanda comments above: “I didn?Äôt even know he was at TB?Äôs site until I read it on Surfdom today. Did I miss the announcement?”
For some reason — hate, fear, envy, whatever — Tim Dunlop’s fellow Aussie lefty bloggers failed to promote his brief period of posting at Tim Blair’s.
See http://rwdb.blogspot.com/2005/04/unheralded-return-of-lefty-blogger-tim.html
J F, I’ve got a high regard for Tim. The last I heard of his blog troubles was an email from him, and as you might recall I posted at his request a notice that his server was totally down in case any of his readers also read LP (a high probability). I saw Kim’s comment which I linked to above on the weekend and was of a mind to check out his posts at Tim Blair’s this morning and post something drawing people’s attention to it. I wasn’t at the computer much over the weekend or yesterday. Then I got an email from Tim which prompted this post.
So in my case, it’s neither fear, envy or hate but lack of time.
I don’t think there’s much competitiveness among Australian lefty bloggers at all in fact – we all keep in touch via email (as I do with some righty bloggers).
I did notice tim’s commenters were civil to Tim, and good on them. Tim normally cops a bit of a spray from RWDBs at his own site. I wonder why the difference?
J F, I’ve got a high regard for Tim. The last I heard of his blog troubles was an email from him, and as you might recall I posted at his request a notice that his server was totally down in case any of his readers also read LP (a high probability). I saw Kim’s comment which I linked to above on the weekend and was of a mind to check out his posts at Tim Blair’s this morning and post something drawing people’s attention to it. I wasn’t at the computer much over the weekend or yesterday. Then I got an email from Tim which prompted this post.
So in my case, it’s neither fear, envy or hate but lack of time.
I don’t think there’s much competitiveness among Australian lefty bloggers at all in fact – we all keep in touch via email (as I do with some righty bloggers).
I did notice tim’s commenters were civil to Tim, and good on them. Tim normally cops a bit of a spray from RWDBs at his own site. I wonder why the difference?
EP, I wouldn’t think any description of any human as a “bat-winged monkey” could be termed “reality-based”.
EP, I wouldn’t think any description of any human as a “bat-winged monkey” could be termed “reality-based”.
In my experience, “hate, fear, envy,” are rarely manifested in the blogosphere as the absence of comment.
And well some did notice Tim’s very brief stay, and some didn’t. Not everyone operates in the tight “on message” circle jerk of mutual self-promotion and self-congratulation that you seem familar with, Becky boy.
(Cue chorus: “No we don’t. We’re all individuals.”)
In my experience, “hate, fear, envy,” are rarely manifested in the blogosphere as the absence of comment.
And well some did notice Tim’s very brief stay, and some didn’t. Not everyone operates in the tight “on message” circle jerk of mutual self-promotion and self-congratulation that you seem familar with, Becky boy.
(Cue chorus: “No we don’t. We’re all individuals.”)
I assume you’re referring to the Bahnisch-Quiggin-Lambert circle jerk, which is, in any event, a daisy chain.
Your reactions are very defensive, boys.
Dunlop was snubbed, there’s no getting around it.
I assume you’re referring to the Bahnisch-Quiggin-Lambert circle jerk, which is, in any event, a daisy chain.
Your reactions are very defensive, boys.
Dunlop was snubbed, there’s no getting around it.
Is this a variation on the usual RWDB ‘you must post on (x) this week or be condemned as traitorous’ line? With a twist?
Is this a variation on the usual RWDB ‘you must post on (x) this week or be condemned as traitorous’ line? With a twist?
It must be, Liam. And no, JF, Tim wasn’t snubbed.
It must be, Liam. And no, JF, Tim wasn’t snubbed.
“Your reactions are very defensive, boys.”
Oh that old chestnut. So now can we can look forward to you recycling through the rest of the playbook
http://notesonrhetoric.blogspot.com/
as yer little flame flickers out here?
Fahcrissake Beck, left yer game. If yer gonna troll, at least try something that’s not some quarterarsed-assumption that really only reveals how you view the world, eg:”fear, hate, envy, snubbing.”
There’s nothing like a good flame war, and so far this is nothing like a good flame war.
“Your reactions are very defensive, boys.”
Oh that old chestnut. So now can we can look forward to you recycling through the rest of the playbook
http://notesonrhetoric.blogspot.com/
as yer little flame flickers out here?
Fahcrissake Beck, left yer game. If yer gonna troll, at least try something that’s not some quarterarsed-assumption that really only reveals how you view the world, eg:”fear, hate, envy, snubbing.”
There’s nothing like a good flame war, and so far this is nothing like a good flame war.
Jeez, are you guys keen to get the focus off the TD snub and on to me, or what?
To Nobby’s credit he at least showed TD the courtesy of putting in an appearance at TB’s — as usual, Nobby was nearly funny. Good on ya for trying so hard. (Hey Nobby, do some pirate talk for me, it’s so nearly funny.)
Okay guys, I’ll sign off here — the troll accusation reeks of desperation — and leave you with your guilt. Comrades, indeed.
Jeez, are you guys keen to get the focus off the TD snub and on to me, or what?
To Nobby’s credit he at least showed TD the courtesy of putting in an appearance at TB’s — as usual, Nobby was nearly funny. Good on ya for trying so hard. (Hey Nobby, do some pirate talk for me, it’s so nearly funny.)
Okay guys, I’ll sign off here — the troll accusation reeks of desperation — and leave you with your guilt. Comrades, indeed.
[JFB flounces]
[JFB flounces]
… into a beautiful red sunset.
… into a beautiful red sunset.
Oh wait Beck. Got another funny for yer. Amusing isn’t it how self-proclaimed RWDBs, so keen to extoll individual rights over the state, always think something must be wrong if people aren’t marching in lockstep.
Oh, he has flounced off hasn’t he? What a pussy.
Next time, don’t start anything you can’t finish, becky boy.
Oh wait Beck. Got another funny for yer. Amusing isn’t it how self-proclaimed RWDBs, so keen to extoll individual rights over the state, always think something must be wrong if people aren’t marching in lockstep.
Oh, he has flounced off hasn’t he? What a pussy.
Next time, don’t start anything you can’t finish, becky boy.
Thanks for taking the trouble, JF. See you over at Tim B’s.
Nabakov wrote: “There?Äôs nothing like a good flame war, and so far this is nothing like a good flame war.”
We’re not going to get one here. Every post is the same, and just about everyone sounds like just about everyone else. No-one’s gettin’ fat ‘cept Evil P (with apologies to the Mamas and Papas).
This is what’s going to kill the blogosphere if it’s not careful, or at least render it (more) irrelevant – circular self-congratulation and enthusiatic self-agreement, marred only by the violent shaking of hands.
Thanks for taking the trouble, JF. See you over at Tim B’s.
Nabakov wrote: “There?Äôs nothing like a good flame war, and so far this is nothing like a good flame war.”
We’re not going to get one here. Every post is the same, and just about everyone sounds like just about everyone else. No-one’s gettin’ fat ‘cept Evil P (with apologies to the Mamas and Papas).
This is what’s going to kill the blogosphere if it’s not careful, or at least render it (more) irrelevant – circular self-congratulation and enthusiatic self-agreement, marred only by the violent shaking of hands.
Rob, a bit of a pointless metablogging comment.
If you don’t want to agree, get arguing!
I thought you said tim’s place was boring for that reason as well.
We’ve had some pretty vigorous arguments over po/mo, religion, and other stuff (as well as some horrendous Homer puns) in recent days.
Your reading is very selective.
Would you like me to do a post on anarchism?
Rob, a bit of a pointless metablogging comment.
If you don’t want to agree, get arguing!
I thought you said tim’s place was boring for that reason as well.
We’ve had some pretty vigorous arguments over po/mo, religion, and other stuff (as well as some horrendous Homer puns) in recent days.
Your reading is very selective.
Would you like me to do a post on anarchism?
No, on Popper!
No, on Popper!
Mark, that is an unblair comment on your part.
I am dunlopped with this outrageous slur on my character as I am a VERY punny guy!
Mark, that is an unblair comment on your part.
I am dunlopped with this outrageous slur on my character as I am a VERY punny guy!
We need some way to distinguish Good Ron from Supercilious Ron. One of you blokes has to become Ronny, or some such – perhaps Bronnie for the latter.
We need some way to distinguish Good Ron from Supercilious Ron. One of you blokes has to become Ronny, or some such – perhaps Bronnie for the latter.
He’s Rob, Chris. As opposed to LWLB Robert…
He’s Rob, Chris. As opposed to LWLB Robert…
I knew that.
I knew that.
Sorry Rob, but you’re right.
Sorry Rob, but you’re right.
It’s as confusing as a litter of kittens round here!
It’s as confusing as a litter of kittens round here!
What is it with cats and the sphere? Nabakov, Mark, Evil, Glenn Reynolds, Chrenkoff and Martin Pyke (see bio).
What is it with cats and the sphere? Nabakov, Mark, Evil, Glenn Reynolds, Chrenkoff and Martin Pyke (see bio).
“distinguish Good Ron from Supercilious Ron”
Thanks for the sleepless night wondering which one I am!!
“distinguish Good Ron from Supercilious Ron”
Thanks for the sleepless night wondering which one I am!!
C.L. – Left Wing Attack Cats?
Any suggestions for my new gravatar?
Ron – you’re Good Ron! Sleep well!
C.L. – Left Wing Attack Cats?
Any suggestions for my new gravatar?
Ron – you’re Good Ron! Sleep well!
Um, ah, sorry Ron … I think I meant the Good Rob and the Supercilious Rob, or whatever the name of that guy is who keeps making incredibly boring comments about posts being boring. Herons sometimes don’t hear real well. Apologies, and sweet dreams.
Um, ah, sorry Ron … I think I meant the Good Rob and the Supercilious Rob, or whatever the name of that guy is who keeps making incredibly boring comments about posts being boring. Herons sometimes don’t hear real well. Apologies, and sweet dreams.
“Would you like me to do a post on anarchism?”
No thanks, Mark, I can’t bear even to think about anarchists after following Timbo’s Visions of Hell link.
“Would you like me to do a post on anarchism?”
No thanks, Mark, I can’t bear even to think about anarchists after following Timbo’s Visions of Hell link.
Merde. Il ne marche pas.
Ici.
Merde. Il ne marche pas.
Ici.
Well I didnt even know until yesterday and didnt see the point in announcing it as it wasnt going to be for very long.
Well I didnt even know until yesterday and didnt see the point in announcing it as it wasnt going to be for very long.
Why do meta blogging posts always get the most comments?
Is it the opportunity to do snark without referring back to a topic? Or is it the pure contentless essence of blogs?
Why do meta blogging posts always get the most comments?
Is it the opportunity to do snark without referring back to a topic? Or is it the pure contentless essence of blogs?
Followed yr link, Rob. Naked old guys are never particularly compelling porn. But the girl in a pink top in the background of one of the pics is a hottie!
I’d hate to say photos of the average Liberal Party branch meeting.
But of course all this is so incorrect…
Followed yr link, Rob. Naked old guys are never particularly compelling porn. But the girl in a pink top in the background of one of the pics is a hottie!
I’d hate to say photos of the average Liberal Party branch meeting.
But of course all this is so incorrect…
as to why metablogging posts get the punters’ feedback, is that it’s the one and only subject (apart from football etc) that most of us have the slightest clue about
as to why metablogging posts get the punters’ feedback, is that it’s the one and only subject (apart from football etc) that most of us have the slightest clue about
Striking gravatar, Mr wbb.
Striking gravatar, Mr wbb.
Yes wbb, who can resist talking about about how you talk about other people talking about how you talk about them talking about you (or them).
Yes wbb, who can resist talking about about how you talk about other people talking about how you talk about them talking about you (or them).
“Striking gravatar, Mr wbb.”
Always thought he would come to a colourful end.
“Striking gravatar, Mr wbb.”
Always thought he would come to a colourful end.
wow, that JF Beck has leveraged *two* posts out of this little incident.
seriously, I had no idea that Tim D was posting at Tim B’s simply because I don’t visit Tim B’s site very much anymore and last I checked Tim D didn’t leave any notice on his abandoned old site. simple as that really, and i suspect the same applies to most other ‘lefty’ bloggers who missed this brief period when the lion lay down with the lamb
wow, that JF Beck has leveraged *two* posts out of this little incident.
seriously, I had no idea that Tim D was posting at Tim B’s simply because I don’t visit Tim B’s site very much anymore and last I checked Tim D didn’t leave any notice on his abandoned old site. simple as that really, and i suspect the same applies to most other ‘lefty’ bloggers who missed this brief period when the lion lay down with the lamb
You going for the ’05 Rummy Award Professor Nabakov?
You going for the ’05 Rummy Award Professor Nabakov?
“wow, that JF Beck has leveraged *two* posts out of this little incident.”
All about traffic. Yep, the attention economy is in the driver’s seat now.
“You going for the ’05 Rummy Award Professor Nabakov?”
Fuggedaboutit Chri. Any flamewar attempts between us will fizzle out like wbb and I’s abortive attempt at setting the blogseas aflame.
For this kinda thing, you need real venom, some imagination and staying power all on sides. No wonder young becky boy retreated to his personal bastion to win arguements with his mirror.
“wow, that JF Beck has leveraged *two* posts out of this little incident.”
All about traffic. Yep, the attention economy is in the driver’s seat now.
“You going for the ’05 Rummy Award Professor Nabakov?”
Fuggedaboutit Chri. Any flamewar attempts between us will fizzle out like wbb and I’s abortive attempt at setting the blogseas aflame.
For this kinda thing, you need real venom, some imagination and staying power all on sides. No wonder young becky boy retreated to his personal bastion to win arguements with his mirror.
I was going to say something like “swoops over cat’s head”, but won’t. Yet i’m starting to think that these gravatar things operate as some sort of subliminal comment stylistic.
I was going to say something like “swoops over cat’s head”, but won’t. Yet i’m starting to think that these gravatar things operate as some sort of subliminal comment stylistic.
I don’t read Tim Blair’s site, and I don’t visit Tim Dunlop’s daily either because lately he hasn’t been posting daily (due to his server problems, I guess). I guess this means I “snubbed Dunlop”. Should I go stand in the corner?
I don’t read Tim Blair’s site, and I don’t visit Tim Dunlop’s daily either because lately he hasn’t been posting daily (due to his server problems, I guess). I guess this means I “snubbed Dunlop”. Should I go stand in the corner?
Jeez Mr Ikky, please don’t do that again. Scrotal inflation indeed!
Jeez Mr Ikky, please don’t do that again. Scrotal inflation indeed!
“..these gravatar things operate as some sort of subliminal comment stylistic.”
Or catnip for carpers.
Mine’s a single malt mate.
“..these gravatar things operate as some sort of subliminal comment stylistic.”
Or catnip for carpers.
Mine’s a single malt mate.
I think Popper would have had something interesting to say on this issue.
I think Popper would have had something interesting to say on this issue.
Smooth, Mark, real smooth. Couldn’t you have put more effort in?
Smooth, Mark, real smooth. Couldn’t you have put more effort in?
It was lazy Popper commenting, Fyodor.
It was lazy Popper commenting, Fyodor.
Yeah, I know, your Popper was ratzi.
Yeah, I know, your Popper was ratzi.
Yeah Mark, take a Hayek.
Yeah Mark, take a Hayek.