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18 responses to “The Politics of Science”

  1. Mark

    While science is not a democracy in regards to how theories achieve ascendancy, the process works in a democratic context.

    That’s an extremely good, and extremely important point, Irant.

  2. Irant

    Thanks Mark. Not sure what has happened with the trackback. I’ve deleted it as it basically reposted everything.

  3. Mark

    I wonder if Barton is a descendant of the ultra-right congressman of the same name who was one of FDR’s congressional adversaries. In the 44 election, FDR enjoyed himself having a go at three Republicans – “Martin, Barton and Fish” – and his constant invocation of their names made them sound like some dodgy law firm or the like.

  4. Amanda

    Barton has his fingers over a whole lot of shonky science, he was a key source for RFK Jr’s recent disgraceful articles on autism and vaccinations.

  5. Kate

    This is also pertinent when you consider the push in the United States by the Intelligent Design believers to have their theories taught in schools and accepted by mainstream scientific institutions.

  6. Irant

    Good point Kate. ID is basically a political movement and could have been easily included. The problem was not what to include but what to leave out.

    Check some bios Mark and I don’t think the Barton’s are related.

    Thanks Amanda. I’ve read about JKK jr’s article but did not realize Barton was involved.

  7. Amanda

    Actually I might retract that since I can’t find the source I thought I remembered, I might have been thinking of some other random Republican.

  8. Mark

    Amanda, can you tell us more about the articles you mentioned?

  9. Kate

    Let’s not even start on global warming deniers either…

  10. Irant

    This link is a good source of into (and atakedown) on RKJ jr’s article.

  11. Mark

    Yikes! Maybe he should emulate JFK and get people to ghost-write fluffy books about courage instead!

  12. Irant

    You’d think after writing JKK and RKJ I’d eventaully get around to correctly writing RFK.

  13. Amanda

    A month or so ago Robert F Kennedy, Jr wrote a piece for Salon and Rolling Stone called Deadly Immunity about the alleged link between thimerosal (a mercury-based preservative) in vaccines and autism in children. There is no real evidence for this link but it forms the basis of a conspiracy theory anyway, and RFK’s article is all about a govt/Big Pharma coverup, which when you actually read the documents is nothing of the sort. Lots of emotive language, scaremongering, quote mining etc but not alot of fact, and his sources are unfortunately those at the front of the professional anti-vaccine brigade (and/or those pushing quack treatments for autism like chelation.) I like the guy and was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt but unfortunately he declined to seriously consider the legitimate criticisms of his facts and conclusions. Happily, this is where the blogosphere can serve a serious and important purpose, real information can get about just as easily as misinformation.

    See extensive coverage at
    Orac Knows

    Autism Diva

    Skeptico

  14. Amanda
  15. Mark

    First blog link’s broken, Amanda.

    But thanks for that.

  16. harry

    Bring on the Synrock!

    “ID is basically a political movement and could have been easily included.”
    # Yeah, ID has a bit of a problem when it comes to some really really really basic stuff such as the stupidly high rate of mortality of women giving birth and babies at birth before modern medicine. Not a good design at all really.

    You will no doubt be happy to know that the body Australian Research Council (the body responsible for distributing the $500million in public money for research) is to be restructured such that there will no longer be a board, but an executive that then makes suggestions to the Minister!!
    Holy crap!
    So instead of the stamps of approval coming from a peer-assessed merit based system it will now be subject to executive powers involving a freaking career politician!
    Since one of Australia’a strongest and most successful arms of research is Medical Research, and that Medical Research is one of the most subject to political interference, I have a very bad feeling in my water.
    What hope for alternate energy research?

  17. Irant

    Thanks for the info, Harry. I’ll have a look into that as it is disturbing if the Minister (and it won’t matter what party is in power) is to make the decisions. I would grant an exemption if it was someone like Barry Jones.

  18. Irant

    Robyn Williams has an op-ed in today’s SMH on science titled The Reality of “Absolute Truth’. Interesting reading in light of the science themes of my posts.